After many days of unrest and torture I decided to buy Tokicos and H&Rs instead of Modified KYB AGXs.

Anyone have this combo?

 

mattattax

 

yup, and me likey

 

Any estimate on what you would charge me for those Konigs yet? Too bad you don't have 245s Nm I got your message.

 

have your springs settled anymore and how much gap do you have in front and back now

 

Forgot... What exactly is the reason you are selling these wheels?

 

I know it was a hard dec, but you made the right one. AND in record time!

 

Noflash, do you know if the rear AGXs have a lifetime warranty? I'd like to have adjustability at least in the rear since the rear needs the most help anyway with Eibach springs. I'd go with Tok blues up front.

 

I am guessing that as long as they are not modified, the warrantee will still be good. If you ever needed warrantee work done, you may need to tell a little lie about the year of your car. I am guessing that you would be ok though.

Actually, I really like your idea here. Use 4Gen AGX in the rear and Tokico blues in the front. I think that would give you a very solid setup that is covered by manufacturer's lifetime warrantees.

The question is, are the rear 4gen AGXs a complete bolton - or is some modification needed? Do we know for sure?

Brian

 

Per the handful of guys that have installed Cattman modified AGXs, only the fronts required any modification. I've sent an email to Phuong to get a quote on front Tokicos and rear 4th gen AGXs. Hope to hear something soon!

 

Keep me in the loop...I am almost positive I will go with this setup. I will call/e-mail Cattman to see if the rears are a straight bolt on. Also, you may want to get the KYB rear dust boots with bump stops as well.

Brian

 

Will do, let me know what Cattman says also. See if they will sell in pairs versus a set of 4 also. I had forgotten about the dust boots w/ bump stops, that is a good point to remember.

 

You guys definitly should be asking Cattman about the warranty. I doubt it's as stellar as Toks. Even if he says "Lifetime" - Tokico's a much more stable company than Catt - no offense.

But I doubt he's gonna give any advice that will lead you away from buying his full set of AGXs - He's not gonna tell you that the rears are a direct fit, so sure, go buy them cheaper elsewhere. In fact, I know he's gonna at least tell you to get some 4th gen mounts (front & rear).

 

What sort of warranty does Cattman provide on the modified AGXs? I'm interested in an H&R/AGX combo, but I want the KYB's lifetime warranty. This is a selling point to me. The last thing I need is to blow $450 on struts, have them break, and find I have no recourse.

 

This is exactly why I want to see if the 4Gen AGX rears are a direct fit. If they are, you will still have KYB's lifetime warrantee - regardless of where you purchased them. I have already confirmed that KYB will not honor the warrantee if the shocks have been modified. That means if you buy the Cattman modified fronts, you only have the 1-year from Cattman. To me, that is not an option.

Same thing goes with the Tokico fronts. They already make some for the 5Gen, so you will have the lifetime warrantee too.

I think that would be a pretty solid setup.

Brian

 

I'm actually running the combo discussed and have been for 6,000 miles with no problems. I have H&R springs with Tokico struts upfront and 4th gen KYB adjustables in the rear. The 4th gen rears are a direct fit to the '00-'01s and the only thing that will be a little weird is the spring perch. The shock perch on the 4th gen KYB is a little small so when trying to install the spring it will teater back and forth. When you install the rest of the suspension parts it will be fine. Forget the KYB dust boots...not needed. Reuse the factory stuff because the bumpstops are inside.

The Tokico rears are the weak link in our cars. Using the adjustable rears help when the car is loaded with people or cargo. Just increase the settings and firm up the rear. I'm currently set at 2 and the car handles better then new.

Shox.com sold me the rear KYB shocks for $80ea. I got the front 5th gen Tokicos for $90 ea.

 

Whoa, good post. Where the hell have you beeen? This was starting to go in circles. So, you say everything ends up "fine" in the rear, but I gotta ask, "you been hearing dem squeeks?"

Also, how easy is it to adjust the setting? Just reach up under there or what?

Thanks.

 

Where the hell have you beeen?
Gee, I posted this a month or so ago.

"you been hearing dem squeeks?"
No noises what so ever. Perfectly quiet.

how easy is it to adjust the setting?
Very easy. The adjustment **** is right behind the center of the rear wheels. I have mine facing toward the inside of the car.

 

Thank you very much for your post. This is great information!

What seems weird is that the spring teeters. I wonder if it is an H&R thing...if it would teeter on a 5th gen, it would teeter on a 4th gen. Did that add any suspension squeak?

Overall, do you see any flaw in this setup (all bounce eliminated, solid handling, etc...)?

Thanks in advance,
Brian

 

Nevermind the first few questions...I see the response (got up there quicker than I could reply)

 

I drove Jeff's car this weekend, this set-up is very nice. Drives great and very comfortable. I drove it through downtown NYC, yes I hit the ruts, holes, car absorbed them great and it handles very nicely. Highly recommended. Jeff is the man , very smart and very informed!!

Best Regards,
Isaac the bartender

 

Thanks Jason! I went this route because it was taking Cattman to long to get the front KYBs modified.

Link to my original suspension post.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=105263

 

I agree completely with you Tellsch; once I can find the cheapest solution, I'll be ordering Toks up front and AGX in the rears.

 

My God, I've been waiting to hear this!!!!!

 

will agx in the rear fit the 2k2 also with no modifications

 

My understanding is yes.

 

OK now I'm confused. I just received an email response from Phuong indicating that he doesn't carry Tokico anymore due to reliability concerns AND that the 4th gen rear AGXs DO NOT fit 5th gen rears!!! WTF???!!!

 

That is interesting. I am not worried about the Tokico reliability, as I know they are good shocks backed by a great company. Even if they do fail, the warrantee will be in place.

I have asked a few 5th gens that own the AGX rears and they said they fit without any problems.

I think I am going to order all of the shocks from shox.com today. They quoted me $95 per Tokico front shock and $86 per rear AGX shock.

Brian

 

4th gen rear AGX fit my 2k1 perfectly. they also fit dmbmaxima88's 2k2 perfectly.

my Progress springs are really 4th gen springs so they fit the AGX perfectly.

no noises. much improved handling.

my AGX rear adjustment ***** are facing inward like Jeff K's are.

 

Was that with a Maxima.org discount? If so let me know the part numbers and I'll be ordering the same I guess.

 

I am curious why you guys decided to put the dials facing inwards? I would think it would be easier to adjust them from the outside. Do you need to get under the car to see what the number on the dial says?

Thanks,
Brian

 

2Ks and 2K1s are the same car

 

????? That's obvious.
I said nothing about a 2K. TRUblu2k2 asked if it would fit a 2K2.

 

I know they are, I was just pointing it out to those who may ask later. I wasn't trying to insult your post, just saying that is all!!!!

 

I think it's easier to reach in there and adjust it facing inwards. It's not directly inwards, it's at an angle. You have to get under to see the numbers, but if you know the current setting, you don't need to look.