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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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My 4th Gen Agx History. Please Read

KYB AGX gives you all you need out of a maxima. I had my eibachs and kyb agx set to the lowest settings and rides way better than tokicos and eibachs. i'm SORRY to say i'm switching back to tokicos and eibach tho, because the modded 4th gen agx seems to give hell when it comes to wheel alignment and i can't get my wheel alignment corrected yet. I did several wheel alignment already. I will buy the 5th gen agx when kyb comes out with it next year and i'll ride tokicos until then....i hate to wait, but it worth it. until then am back to tokicos...good thing i didn't sell them. i had only used them for a month.
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Can anyone else confirm this issue, or is this a one time thing?
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KYB AGX gives you all you need out of a maxima. I had my eibachs and kyb agx set to the lowest settings and rides way better than tokicos and eibachs. i'm SORRY to say i'm switching back to tokicos and eibach tho, because the modded 4th gen agx seems to give hell when it comes to wheel alignment and i can't get my wheel alignment corrected yet. I did several wheel alignment already. I will buy the 5th gen agx when kyb comes out with it next year and i'll ride tokicos until then....i hate to wait, but it worth it. until then am back to tokicos...good thing i didn't sell them. i had only used them for a month.
just a question, eactly how does it ride with the toks and the eibachs anyway. that the same setup im gettin shrotly and would like a bit more info, and im with u on the KYB's when they come out, im switchin over. but thanx for any info.
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Originally posted by Deven2kStickMax
KYB AGX gives you all you need out of a maxima. I had my eibachs and kyb agx set to the lowest settings and rides way better than tokicos and eibachs. i'm SORRY to say i'm switching back to tokicos and eibach tho, because the modded 4th gen agx seems to give hell when it comes to wheel alignment and i can't get my wheel alignment corrected yet. I did several wheel alignment already. I will buy the 5th gen agx when kyb comes out with it next year and i'll ride tokicos until then....i hate to wait, but it worth it. until then am back to tokicos...good thing i didn't sell them. i had only used them for a month.
Say Deven, are you only referring to swapping back to front Tokicos? Are you leaving the rear AGX in since there were no mods needed. Please confirm as this is the setup I've ordered -- Blues up front, 4th gen AGXs in the rear.
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Say Deven, are you only referring to swapping back to front Tokicos? Are you leaving the rear AGX in since there were no mods needed. Please confirm as this is the setup I've ordered -- Blues up front, 4th gen AGXs in the rear.
No i took out the rears also. Cattman said that the weight of the car will push the spring down on the shock seat, which never happened and the spring was crooked all the time, causing wheel alignment difficult. Also the the front is another issue...i'll wait and buy the 5th Gen ones when it comes out next year.
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just a question, eactly how does it ride with the toks and the eibachs anyway. that the same setup im gettin shrotly and would like a bit more info, and im with u on the KYB's when they come out, im switchin over. but thanx for any info.
if i was you, i would wait for the correct AGX. AGX is the perfect setup for your car. The toks rides smoother, but with AGX you are not affraid of any pot holes....
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No i took out the rears also. Cattman said that the weight of the car will push the spring down on the shock seat, which never happened and the spring was crooked all the time, causing wheel alignment difficult. Also the the front is another issue...i'll wait and buy the 5th Gen ones when it comes out next year.
OK if you already ordered the rears, that's ok. I suggest that you take the rears AGX to a machine shop and have them compress the rear springs onto the shock seat, before you install. I know some people on here used different springs and had no problem, but with Eibachs it's a tight tight fit.
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OK if you already ordered the rears, that's ok. I suggest that you take the rears AGX to a machine shop and have them compress the rear springs onto the shock seat, before you install. I know some people on here used different springs and had no problem, but with Eibachs it's a tight tight fit.
one more thing, if you do use the REAR AGX and front Tokicos, you will need to turn the adjusting **** to #2 settings to match the front Tokicos. I took out my front first and did the same, b4 i finally pull all AGX out. otherwise your car will ride funny...
Old Jun 22, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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lucky you. now i have on toks and eibachs again and wheel alignment is perfect. I wanted H & R to do this, but i had accident with my X maxima last year with H & R . With H & R my front was crooked and i'm too affraid to use it back again on this new car. Glad yours work out ok, but i will say the same soon . ...
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Originally posted by emax95
My car drives straight
mine too, perfectly smooth at 150 too.
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so # 2 setting is the only choice for a tok/agx combo? this is my choice for my suspension setup and if I only have 1 selection on my "adjustable" struts....I dun see a point of getting it.

how would u describe "ride funny"? bumpy ride?

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one more thing, if you do use the REAR AGX and front Tokicos, you will need to turn the adjusting **** to #2 settings to match the front Tokicos. I took out my front first and did the same, b4 i finally pull all AGX out. otherwise your car will ride funny...
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


mine too, perfectly smooth at 150 too.
Stop posting your BS remarks.

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Stop posting your BS remarks.

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whatever, ask the 4 other people in my car, it was smooth at 150. i felt secure.
Old Jun 25, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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whatever, ask the 4 other people in my car, it was smooth at 150. i felt secure.
u just cant wait til u have the bragging rights for 160 cant u.
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whatever, ask the 4 other people in my car, it was smooth at 150. i felt secure.
People like you (immature) run their cars at high speed on PUBLIC roads with no concern of others. Not only do you think you got an ego, you think you can risk the lives of innocent people while you are joy riding at 150.

If you were smart, and a real business man, you would race the car on an oval track at 150, not public highways. People have been killed and my friend was one of them from PEOPLE like you.

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so # 2 setting is the only choice for a tok/agx combo? this is my choice for my suspension setup and if I only have 1 selection on my "adjustable" struts....I dun see a point of getting it.

how would u describe "ride funny"? bumpy ride?

thx
meaning...there is not a equal suspension travel between the AGX and Tokicos, because they both react differently on the road which can lead to problems... i can ride agx on pot holes and my car stays down, but with tokicos sometimes when you hit pot holes it tends to lift up...you will have to try it to understand ....also the 4th Gen agx is a shorter shox compare to the direct replacement tokicos..this will make your car unbalance if you use rear agx and front toks...







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People like you (immature) run their cars at high speed on PUBLIC roads with no concern of others. Not only do you think you got an ego, you think you can risk the lives of innocent people while you are joy riding at 150.

If you were smart, and a real business man, you would race the car on an oval track at 150, not public highways. People have been killed and my friend was one of them from PEOPLE like you.

Dixit

three lanes, eastern mass, 3 mile straightaway, abotu 1 car in sight. not the smartest thing in the world under any circumstances but it was fun. i'm very aware of other drivers and always alert.
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three lanes, eastern mass, 3 mile straightaway, abotu 1 car in sight. not the smartest thing in the world under any circumstances but it was fun. i'm very aware of other drivers and always alert.
You aint alert of nothing at that speed. And dont tell me you can be. I ride my bike on an oval track at over 165mph and you are moving over 1mile every 20secs. Aint no way you can be fully alert of everything.

You dont know the first thing about going that fast at that speed and what you car is capable of. All you know is that you "supposedly" scientifically proved how your midpipe is better than a full cai. I guess you proved that with you doing major research right? Sure thing boss, i cant wait to help my friend (dblrr900) install the injen. I will pay for the dyno to prove your intake is not all it is cracked upto be.

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for the sake of professionalism because for some reason he's out to get me. www.frankencar.com/stevepic/ignorlist.bmp


makes my life less stressful.
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Originally posted by Deven2kStickMax
I am sorry deven....u didnt leave anything.
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You aint alert of nothing at that speed. And dont tell me you can be. I ride my bike on an oval track at over 165mph and you are moving over 1mile every 20secs. Aint no way you can be fully alert of everything.

You dont know the first thing about going that fast at that speed and what you car is capable of. All you know is that you "supposedly" scientifically proved how your midpipe is better than a full cai. I guess you proved that with you doing major research right? Sure thing boss, i cant wait to help my friend (dblrr900) install the injen. I will pay for the dyno to prove your intake is not all it is cracked upto be.

Dixit
Dood, im sorry you lost a friend due to high speed driving, or just plain wreckless driving. But one thing is for sure, this is a maxima enthusiast site. If you cant deal with kill stories or top speed stories maybe you need to stop modding your car and get a Chrysler Town & Country for family trips, if you cant stand speed so much. I myself wrecked my car due to drunk driving, havent driven my car while drinkin almost one year now. Im sure "dmbmaxima88" doesnt go around doing 150mph and decides he wants to knoock someone over or ram into another innocent person, like most of us in here we like our cars and we like to see it line up against other cars in its class or even a little out of its class, just like yourself at times...But dood you should lighten up a bit, remember this IS Maxima.org, where we all talk about our experiences which "dmbmaxima88" was doing. Take care and once again sorry about your friend.
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When there is a wide open stretch of highway, you've gotta see what she can do. I highly doubt dubmaxima put anyone's life at risk other than his own and his passengers.

I have gotten mine up to 130 mph, but shut it down immediately when there was even a remote trace of traffic coming ahead. I would never attempt to pass another car at that speed. This was on the was back to Phoenix from San Diego on an extremely desolate Monday afternoon highway.

I'd rather have dubmaxima doing 150 on open highways than people drag racing on city streets at speeds as low as 80-100.....
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If yall are so confident that Steve did the right thing, then why not post this in the Race Caterogy now and see his azz get smoked. I mod my car cause I am enthusiast. To be an enthusiast you dont need to drive 150mph on a straight strech.

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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
If yall are so confident that Steve did the right thing, then why not post this in the Race Caterogy now and see his azz get smoked. I mod my car cause I am enthusiast. To be an enthusiast you dont need to drive 150mph on a straight strech.

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There's a difference between top speeds and drag racing. He obviously wanted to see what the Max would do.

I don't know the history between you two, so I'm somewhat confused about how this whole thing started. Has he been bragging consistently about it? Saying he can beat you? If that's the case, then you have a different story altogether.

But going 150 on an open stretch of highway is not what I would consider to be a threat to other people- when done in a safe manner on a WIDE open highway.
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Originally posted by asu174


There's a difference between top speeds and drag racing. He obviously wanted to see what the Max would do.

I don't know the history between you two, so I'm somewhat confused about how this whole thing started. Has he been bragging consistently about it? Saying he can beat you? If that's the case, then you have a different story altogether.

But going 150 on an open stretch of highway is not what I would consider to be a threat to other people- when done in a safe manner on a WIDE open highway.
he has something against me and my company. I don't even know how it started he just went around one day and started trashing my intake and then me. i just ignore him now.

and i'm no bragging about it, i don't even talk to him and either way i prolly could beat him.
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someone here's got a stick up his a$$.

sounds like a personal Vendetta of sorts......hey steve....
didja f*ck his wife or his girl or sumthin?

Jesus H. f*cking christ....
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I know Dixit, and I know of his issue w/ Steve and that is their business, however it may be told.

I don't dislike Steve, don't even know him. My two issues are, now I have this Intake that was never tested in a hot & humid area, that I think is not performing now, and I got the wrong color when I ordered a product. If something is wrong with an order it should be corrected, not left with "my bad". Hopefully he has learned how to better treat clients, if not, oh well.

On to the Injen site for me.

Not a hater, just a concious customer.
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Originally posted by dblrr900
I know Dixit, and I know of his issue w/ Steve and that is their business, however it may be told.

I don't dislike Steve, don't even know him. My two issues are, now I have this Intake that was never tested in a hot & humid area, that I think is not performing now, and I got the wrong color when I ordered a product. If something is wrong with an order it should be corrected, not left with "my bad". Hopefully he has learned how to better treat clients, if not, oh well.

On to the Injen site for me.

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Which part is not performing? The pipe or the filter?
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Which part is not performing? The pipe or the filter?
The intake is fine, it sounds great and I loved it in the cold weather. It got hot here and it went down hill. I don't think it sux, I just think it is not performing like the Dyno numbers posed. I mean the dynos that are shown from before are in Wisonsin or something like that, in December. I mean, 10 Deg out and any intake is going produce numbers.

At night and on cooler days it does fine, but when it gets above 90 here my performance goes to crap. I just don't like sucking up hot air under my hood. I think the Injen will perform better, and it looks great. I wanted silver before, so now I can get the color I wanted too.

I think I am going to use a day and dyno the Frankencar, the Injen, and stock, when it is over 90 here and I will let everyone know what the real deal is. Then all this nonsense can stop.
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I think I am going to use a day and dyno the Frankencar, the Injen, and stock, when it is over 90 here and I will let everyone know what the real deal is. Then all this nonsense can stop.

yes....please stop this insanity.....

some dyno's from an impartial party would be AWESOME!!!

oh and btw....it's been hot and disgusting in NYC the last few days and my Franken intake is still performing well. In fact....I was just noticing how much faster my car "seems". After my car hit 36K (which was about three days ago) my car actually feels stronger and faster.

It's not my imagination either cuz one of my friends even asked me if I had just done something new to the car, to which I replied,

"uhm...no."

He felt as if my car was pulling harder than before too......Wierd but true...

So anyways.....dblrr900....I hope you get the dyno's done soon.....and keep us posted!

Thanks
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


he has something against me and my company. I don't even know how it started he just went around one day and started trashing my intake and then me. i just ignore him now.

and i'm no bragging about it, i don't even talk to him and either way i prolly could beat him.
Lets see a 2k26spd vs a 2k1 auto fully modded. I think we already know you can beat me. Why not race my Suzuki bike then?

I got racks of crap against your company cause you claimed to make this pipe, when all you did was COPY the PRcai midpipe. What did you claim to design? Nothing. My best friend is a patent lawyer, hopefully you did your research on that part before you get sued up the azz.

BTW, i trash the intake cause you act like it is the ONLY intake on the planet that works. Get your head out your azz and realize yours aint nothing but the top of the surface of intakes that can blow yours away.

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Originally posted by BigDogJonx


Lets see a 2k26spd vs a 2k1 auto fully modded. I think we already know you can beat me. Why not race my Suzuki bike then?

I got racks of crap against your company cause you claimed to make this pipe, when all you did was COPY the PRcai midpipe. What did you claim to design? Nothing. My best friend is a patent lawyer, hopefully you did your research on that part before you get sued up the azz.

BTW, i trash the intake cause you act like it is the ONLY intake on the planet that works. Get your head out your azz and realize yours aint nothing but the top of the surface of intakes that can blow yours away.

Dixit
If you knew all of this, then why did your friend buy one?
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If you knew all of this, then why did your friend buy one?
I did not know him then buddy, he just recently joined my company and works with me now. He know is selling it.

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wasn't my midpipe out for the 2k2's before the pr CAI midpipe. i've never even seen more then a picture of one and i use different specs then them. yes they are similiar but how many ways can you make something that's almost the same??? not very many, but i did go the research and get the numbers and dimensions myself. i'm not claiming it's mine. i'm not patenting it, i'm just making a quality affordable product that performs well.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
wasn't my midpipe out for the 2k2's before the pr CAI midpipe. i've never even seen more then a picture of one and i use different specs then them. yes they are similiar but how many ways can you make something that's almost the same??? not very many, but i did go the research and get the numbers and dimensions myself. i'm not claiming it's mine. i'm not patenting it, i'm just making a quality affordable product that performs well.
No your midpipe was not out before PRcai made their intake kit. Given their is only for a 2k-2k1, but you still ripped their idea by clearly stealing the dimensions and claiming "fame" on it. You aint making it affordable at all. Shiettttttt, look at the price of a PRcai and look at yours, your aint even a CAI, so stop calling it that. At least PR has a true CAI. You over there ghetto rigging ways to make a heat shield that still aint gonna be the same a real cai.

You just scared now that you see that INJEN just came out with one that will destroy yours. Noise dont mean shiet on your intake.

Enjoy it while it lasts, cause in a couple weeks the truth will be told with true unbiased dyno results. Not dynos from the same guy stole the idea for the pipe.

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i'm just gonna stop responding to this about right now. it's not worth my time and effort, i have to go make some more intakes, or should i just call PR sicne i ripped them off, or wait they dont even have a 2k2 pipe out so i guess i didn't.

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Originally posted by BigDogJonx


No your midpipe was not out before PRcai made their intake kit. Given their is only for a 2k-2k1, but you still ripped their idea by clearly stealing the dimensions and claiming "fame" on it. You aint making it affordable at all. Shiettttttt, look at the price of a PRcai and look at yours, your aint even a CAI, so stop calling it that. At least PR has a true CAI. You over there ghetto rigging ways to make a heat shield that still aint gonna be the same a real cai.

You just scared now that you see that INJEN just came out with one that will destroy yours. Noise dont mean shiet on your intake.

Enjoy it while it lasts, cause in a couple weeks the truth will be told with true unbiased dyno results. Not dynos from the same guy stole the idea for the pipe.

Dixit

How much is the Injen? I paid $60 for my Frankencar midpipe and $50 for the Berk filter and adapter. I have yet to find a better intake for the buck.

I can't believe that you are flaming him over supposedly charging too much for a product. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. But I LOVE mine, and I don't even have to bore a hole through my fender for it......

I don't see you flaming Stillen for charging $200 for their intake......
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
anyone with real questions please post.
I got a question. Considering you get the midpipe made by a distributor, you must be getting them made for no more than $15, maybe another $5 to paint it. So $20 for cost on the midpipe. The filters, well i know who you REALLY got them from and who your connection was on the K&Ns.

So your cost on the whole setup is like $30 tops. So you only ripping people on the .org by how much? And you call this helping us out and making it affordable? You aint doing nothing but trying to make a buck.

Dixit
Old Jun 26, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by asu174



How much is the Injen? I paid $60 for my Frankencar midpipe and $50 for the Berk filter and adapter. I have yet to find a better intake for the buck.

I can't believe that you are flaming him over supposedly charging too much for a product. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. But I LOVE mine, and I don't even have to bore a hole through my fender for it......

I don't see you flaming Stillen for charging $200 for their intake......
Stillen doesnt personally show up on every intake thread and claim their intake is the best do they? There are business principles here, which STEVE-O does not seem to understand. Read the post by dblrr900, they sent him the wrong color, and all STEVE did was say "my bad". Yeah that is business coming from person you expect to be making a buck and dont care.

Look at his prices online now, they aint cheap at all.

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