Anyone have some FACTS?

1)Dyno numbers
2)1/4-mile times
3)etc...

I did a search and no luck(didn't try too hard though), so don't give me that.

A guy at work thinks he's faster than my 2K1 Max 5-speed. I know there are some SICK chips out there for the 1.8T engine, but the autothority is a milder chip that SUPPOSEDLY gives 35whp. I'm just looking for data to support that and some torque values.

I doubt we'll ever run because there is nowhere safe near work, but he thinks his Passat is 15.2sec 1/4(mag numbers) and in the 14's chipped.

Anyone?

 

Stock, 1.8T Passats aren't going anywhere near low 15s. The Jetta/Golf 1.8Ts barely get there and they're much lighter.

The basic autothority ECU upgrade adds 43whp to the 1.8T motor by raising boost to 11psi. The custom ECU upgrade bumps it up to 12.5psi which should mean about 55whp (guestimate), 65hp at the crank. So with a 150hp stock motor + 65hp we're looking at 215hp, which isn't too shabby.
http://autoth.desyne.com/siteshopper.htm?iid=314

I haven't seen any dyno figures but, I have no reason to doubt Autothority's power claims. I don't know the boost capacity of the 1.8T's turbo or the strength of it's motor but turbos can work horsepower wonders with the help of a boost controller.

 

i know that APR's chip for the 1.8T audi bumps it from 150 to 200hp. So I wouldn't be that impressed

 

www.vwvortex.com

 

Oh Paahhleeez!!!

I horse whipped a 1.8T GTI Volkswagen leaving a clover leaf and the Passat is a bigger/heavier car.

Motor Trend has this car doing 15.30 @ 93.08
2932 pounds, 180hp @ 5500 174 ft.lb. @ 1950

I suppose this thing has a very quick spool up to make so much torque down low. That could explain the 15.3 .

On the VW site the Passat is listed as having a 170hp engine and it is a bigger car but the weight isn't listed.

I say go ahead and hurt his feelings

 

First, I don't have 255hp and all your torque(I'm assuming you weren't spraying!). Next, the Passat comes stock with 150hp and around that in torque, but supposedly is underated. Supposedly, with the Autothority chip the 1.8T(150hp engine) can put down 180whp/200lb-ft wtq. So, with an optimistic 185whp/175wtq and an extra 200+lbs., my Max could be in for a close encounter.

I'm pretty sure I'd win, since he's an old timer and probably can't drive to it's fullest potential. I drive bad, but at least I push my car on a regular basis to be able to squeeze out all she's got.

 

His car is a low 15s car...something like 15.2 if i remember correctly. C&D put the Autothority chip in their long term car a few years back. Some of those 1.8T's can be made fairly quick, especially the GTI.

 

once you put on a chip on those 1.8T engines, it will go fast, into the 14's i believe. if you know how to shift your 5sp then you'll beat him. VQ has a lot of torque and thats where you have to take him, right in the beginning while his turbo is still in lag.

 

Funny you brought this up becasue I just raced a sooped up 1.8T Jetta today. I saw the guy behind me in a jetta getting a little rev happy with his BOV screaming. We messed around a litle and I signaled him to pull off the road to talk. He told me he had 21 PSI going into his motor . So I asked him if he wanted to race. He said sure and told me he would set his boost back down to stock(he had some computer thingy infront of him, I think a boost controler). I replied telling him to keep the boost on because he was going to need it! So then we went to a open road where it was safe to race. We counted off to 3 and I launched the max like a bat out of hell!(as usual ) I pulled a car on him pretty quick and I continued to just walk the guy until I shut it down at 100 MPH with atleast a 6+ car lead, probably more like 8-9.

I was thinking to my self thats it? The car seemed neck and neck with me when we where messing around earlier. So we hit a red light and I was like my max is pretty quick ahh? He replied not bad. I then said you where running 21 PSI right? And he said no just stock boost, you wanted me do that right? I said damn! I wanted you to run with the boost turned all the way up!

So as you can see this race blew kohonas because he was not even boosting, damn!! I will tell you though that car flew with the boost cranked up, I don't know if I could have taken him if he was pushing 21 PSI, infact I dought it.

Hopefully some day we will meet again and do this for real! Sorry about the essay I got caught up in the whole story BTW the jetta was 5 spd with 17's (maybe 18's) and it had at least a exhaust and probably a intake too.

 

BTW guys chipped jeta's are known to run high 13's.

 

He might of told you the Ethan , because you smoked him...

 

That thought did cross my mind I think I may have just smoked him on the launch and then he did not get a chance to catch up If you sleep on the line while street racing against me it's over!

 

21 PSI, i don't think you stand a chance. those engines are very tuneable.

you said a chipped jetta runs 13's, then if he has 21 PSI(which is a lot more then the PSI with the chip) then he is running really low 13's possbily high 12s

like i said, you can do tons of work with those 1.8T engines.

 

Id believe it only if I saw it. 21psi? In his front tires maybe.

If the turbo on that engine spools up and makes max torque at 1950 RPMs there can't be much left for the top end. 21psi is probably way out of it's efficiency range on that engine.

 

With a chip and BOV it is very possible for the car to spike at 21lbs but at the top end it is probably only holding 15lbs.

BTW, for all of you guys who don't know, the 02' 1.8T's have 180hp and 174tq not 150 like every one is sayin'. And with the chip they can run 2 programs if capable 93 Octane for the street and the 100 octane program for the track!

 

It's not an 02 it only has 150hp stock.

Are you talking about the APR chip? That thing ROCKS! You can select one of 5-customizable programs from the CRUISE control stock and the dealer can't even tell it's there.

Man I want the 2.7T bi-turbo with the APR EMCS chip and AWD someday.

 

yea me 2~! e.g. evo VII, WRX sti...

its funny how a german car with half the engine size running a chip could keep up with our max's... man i made a mistake with my 2k2. i shoulda bought a passat...

 

It's the EVO VIII once here in the US.

I agree, my next car is going to be turbocharged from the factory with at least rear wheel drive but most likely AWD.

Can we say EVO VIII!!!!

Honestly, I'd take a 2K2 6-speed over a chipped Passat, but not a 2K1 5-speed. However, once I go the nitrous or SC route, I'd rather have a Max anyday.