2k1 5-spd vs. 2k2 auto
07-10-2002, 01:28 PM
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Re: 2k1 5-spd vs. 2k2 auto
Originally posted by CoolMax
Who'd win?
Up top?
Down low?
Sorry if this is a FAQ!
Who'd win?
Up top?
Down low?
Sorry if this is a FAQ!
2k 5spd : dynoed 190 hp
2k2 auto : dynoed 205 hp
07-10-2002, 01:50 PM
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actually.............
i took a 2k2 auto up an slight hill from a stop light.....1'st gear tied, started walking away from middle of 2nd and kept walking through 3rd, shut it down cuz point was proving....ot, this little girl, yes girl, looked snobby. met at next light and she said how the 255hp can beat my car, and i'm thinking, "i just left you behind back there, hello?" i had the y-pipe, upd, jet(module)and berk intake and 18" wheels, whick i know is not great for speed.......oh, i'm a 2k.
07-10-2002, 01:57 PM
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Stock for stock, who knows. I'd probably bet on the 2K2 if he/she torque braked on the launch and manually shifted the tranny. It would probably have a lot to do with which driver controlled wheel spin better on the launch.
A FAQ on who can win in a race? That would be something else?
A FAQ on who can win in a race? That would be something else?
07-10-2002, 03:38 PM
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The 2k2 Auto will take the 5 speed out of the hole. The auto guys were running 14.8 vs my 15.0 at the Track. The thing is my traps were 2-3 mph higher than theirs. From a roll, the 2k2 Auto will be seeing some 2k1 tailights. I would say IMO anything over 20 mph, the 2k-2k1 is faster.
07-10-2002, 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by EF-9
Does it have the Navi? If it does the 5spd will get pulverize!
Does it have the Navi? If it does the 5spd will get pulverize!
Navi-envy
From someeone who doesn't even own a car...
As far as the question asked goes... I have never raced a 2K1 manual, so I wouldnt know, but look at my ET, and you make the call..
07-10-2002, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
As far as the question asked goes... I have never raced a 2K1 manual, so I wouldnt know, but look at my ET, and you make the call..
As far as the question asked goes... I have never raced a 2K1 manual, so I wouldnt know, but look at my ET, and you make the call..
4th and 5th Gen 5 speeds are running 2-4 mph faster down the 1/4. My conclusion is that a stoplight race will be advantageous for the 2k2 and a rolling start the 2k2 will get owned.
07-10-2002, 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
You 2k2 guys are always referring to ur 14 sec timeslips, but you forget to mention the low trap speeds 4th and 5th Gen 5 speeds are running 2-4 mph faster down the 1/4. My conclusion is that a stoplight race will be advantageous for the 2k2 and a rolling start the 2k2 will get owned.
You 2k2 guys are always referring to ur 14 sec timeslips, but you forget to mention the low trap speeds
4th and 5th Gen 5 speeds are running 2-4 mph faster down the 1/4. My conclusion is that a stoplight race will be advantageous for the 2k2 and a rolling start the 2k2 will get owned.
07-10-2002, 04:06 PM
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Re: Oh no....
Originally posted by MichaelAE
This is getting dangerously close to 2K2 vs. 2K1 in the 5th gen forum. Let's not go there, guys...keep it friendly before it gets out of hand. No reason to spend a lot of time comparing stock vs. stock or auto vs. manual anyway.
Although, I think it is fair to say that a 2K2 w/Navi would blow the doors off a supercharged 5-speed 2K1. Navi cuts at least two seconds off the quarter.
This is getting dangerously close to 2K2 vs. 2K1 in the 5th gen forum. Let's not go there, guys...keep it friendly before it gets out of hand. No reason to spend a lot of time comparing stock vs. stock or auto vs. manual anyway.
Although, I think it is fair to say that a 2K2 w/Navi would blow the doors off a supercharged 5-speed 2K1. Navi cuts at least two seconds off the quarter.
What about a Supercharged 2k1 5-speed with an Aftermarket Navi??? That would be supercar territory
07-10-2002, 04:07 PM
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Oh no...
This is getting dangerously close to 2K2 vs. 2K1 in the 5th gen forum. Let's not go there, guys...keep it friendly before it gets out of hand. No reason to spend a lot of time comparing stock vs. stock or auto vs. manual anyway.
Although, I think it is fair to say that a 2K2 w/Navi would blow the doors off a supercharged 5-speed 2K1. Navi cuts at least two seconds off the quarter.
Ahh...the memories.
Although, I think it is fair to say that a 2K2 w/Navi would blow the doors off a supercharged 5-speed 2K1. Navi cuts at least two seconds off the quarter.
Ahh...the memories.
07-10-2002, 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
You 2k2 guys are always referring to ur 14 sec timeslips, but you forget to mention the low trap speeds 4th and 5th Gen 5 speeds are running 2-4 mph faster down the 1/4. My conclusion is that a stoplight race will be advantageous for the 2k2 and a rolling start the 2k2 will get owned.
You 2k2 guys are always referring to ur 14 sec timeslips, but you forget to mention the low trap speeds
4th and 5th Gen 5 speeds are running 2-4 mph faster down the 1/4. My conclusion is that a stoplight race will be advantageous for the 2k2 and a rolling start the 2k2 will get owned.
07-10-2002, 04:22 PM
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It looks like this thread turned into a war between the 2k and 2k1 vs 2k2 and 2k3. C mon guys we all know that both of the cars have their adventages and disadventages, but we are still maxima owners so dont be hatin on each other
07-10-2002, 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
This is what we call :
Navi-envy
From someeone who doesn't even own a car...
As far as the question asked goes... I have never raced a 2K1 manual, so I wouldnt know, but look at my ET, and you make the call..
This is what we call :
Navi-envy
From someeone who doesn't even own a car...
As far as the question asked goes... I have never raced a 2K1 manual, so I wouldnt know, but look at my ET, and you make the call..
Atleast I gave you a nice compliment...
07-10-2002, 06:57 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xfirepwr1
[B]It looks like this thread turned into a war between the 2k and 2k1 vs 2k2 and 2k3. C mon guys we all know that both of the cars have their adventages and disadventages, but we are still maxima owners so dont be hatin on each other
[B]It looks like this thread turned into a war between the 2k and 2k1 vs 2k2 and 2k3. C mon guys we all know that both of the cars have their adventages and disadventages, but we are still maxima owners so dont be hatin on each other
07-10-2002, 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
" You 2K2 guys ".... you sound like your talking to some Honda boy....
" You 2K2 guys ".... you sound like your talking to some Honda boy....
07-10-2002, 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
" You 2K2 guys ".... you sound like your talking to some Honda boy....
" You 2K2 guys ".... you sound like your talking to some Honda boy....
07-10-2002, 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by JAKE02
Yea i agree with you Kloogy......i think these 2k and 2k1 guys are little jealous of the 2K2's...........oh sure......2k of 2k1 5speeds with plenty of mods will maybe take a 2K2 auto.....but stock they will not.......
Yea i agree with you Kloogy......i think these 2k and 2k1 guys are little jealous of the 2K2's...........oh sure......2k of 2k1 5speeds with plenty of mods will maybe take a 2K2 auto.....but stock they will not.......
Of course, since very few of us 2K and 2K1 5-speeds are stock...why would be jealous? That deserves a
Hell, why would I be jealous even if I was stock...what a pitiful thing to be jealous about? Your mid-level, near luxury, family, sort of sporty sedan is faster than mine?
And another
If you were joking...good
07-10-2002, 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by MichaelAE
Ah, but you repeat yourself.
Of course, since very few of us 2K and 2K1 5-speeds are stock...why would be jealous? That deserves a
Hell, why would I be jealous even if I was stock...what a pitiful thing to be jealous about? Your mid-level, near luxury, family, sort of sporty sedan is faster than mine?
And another
If you were joking...good
Ah, but you repeat yourself.
Of course, since very few of us 2K and 2K1 5-speeds are stock...why would be jealous? That deserves a
Hell, why would I be jealous even if I was stock...what a pitiful thing to be jealous about? Your mid-level, near luxury, family, sort of sporty sedan is faster than mine?
And another
If you were joking...good
but I could be wrong--it's still the worst episode ever though
07-10-2002, 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by mattattax
I think by referring to 2k and 2k1 guys he meant those saying seperatist phrases such as "you 2k2 guys"
but I could be wrong--it's still the worst episode ever though
I think by referring to 2k and 2k1 guys he meant those saying seperatist phrases such as "you 2k2 guys"
but I could be wrong--it's still the worst episode ever though
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07-11-2002, 12:46 AM
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From what I've seen, 2k2 auto should beat a 2k/2k1 5spd to the line in the 1/4. But its so close that driver ability will make all of the difference. It is easy to pick up a couple tenths just in the launch.
As for stock v. stock - screw that - got mods?
As for stock v. stock - screw that - got mods?
07-11-2002, 05:19 AM
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Just wait until VQ35DE aftermarket performance parts become more common; the tide of this thread (and threads like it will turn). In a year or two, the VQ35 motor will be in every Nissan/Infiniti (exc. Sentra/Q45/M45) so there'll be mods galore. (Depending on the number mods available in 3 years, I may buyout the lease on my 2K2.)
With equal mods, there's no comparison. The 2K2+ auto will take the checkered flag each time.
With equal mods, there's no comparison. The 2K2+ auto will take the checkered flag each time.
07-11-2002, 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
Just wait until VQ35DE aftermarket performance parts become more common; the tide of this thread (and threads like it will turn). In a year or two, the VQ35 motor will be in every Nissan/Infiniti (exc. Sentra/Q45/M45) so there'll be mods galore. (Depending on the number mods available in 3 years, I may buyout the lease on my 2K2.)
With equal mods, there's no comparison. The 2K2+ auto will take the checkered flag each time.
Just wait until VQ35DE aftermarket performance parts become more common; the tide of this thread (and threads like it will turn). In a year or two, the VQ35 motor will be in every Nissan/Infiniti (exc. Sentra/Q45/M45) so there'll be mods galore. (Depending on the number mods available in 3 years, I may buyout the lease on my 2K2.)
With equal mods, there's no comparison. The 2K2+ auto will take the checkered flag each time.
The VQ35 in the Sentra?
On a separate but related note, I'm really not sure why anybody would think that the Maxima would be at the top of the aftermarket list these days. Given that mods have to be developed differently for each application of the VQ35, I'm thinking that the 350Z and G35 are at the top of the list, then the Altima and last the Maxima. I think, if anything, the future will bring less and less aftermarket attention to the Maxima itself, despite the popularity of the VQ35.
DAMN! I responded to this thread again. I'm heading out of town in a few hours and promise to be busy as hell for a couple days. Hopefully this thread will be locked by then.
07-11-2002, 07:05 AM
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To any new 2K2 owner
don't get such big heads, ok so you auto's are running high 14's and 2k's and 2k1 manuals are running low 15's, those tenths are easily made up in launch, shifts, reaction time, weight, etc...
Here is a link to a good comparison.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=119723
Here is a link to a good comparison.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=119723
07-11-2002, 07:15 AM
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It's disturbing and even a little depressing that some of "you 2k2 guys" are starting to talk smack on other Maxima drivers. I know it's only natural for a rivalry like this to start, but I remember this forum being A LOT more friendly a year or so ago. It'd be nice if it could stay that way.
That said...
From a dead stop I'd put money on the 2k2 auto everytime. But from a roll it gets pretty interesting. The WIDE ratio 4AT tranny has lots of holes, and even though the 2k1 has much less power, the manual tranny lets them put the engine in the powrband regardless of what speed they're at because of the much closer ratios. From 30-50, and 70-90, a 2k1 5spd has MUCH better passing times than a 2k2 auto. The only place they were pretty equal was from 50-70. This is from CarTest2000 simulations, which have been pretty accurate when put to the test in the real world.
Oh yeah, "you 2k2 auto guys", my old slow 4th Gen 5spd also has better 30-50, equal 50-70, and better 70-90 passing times than jOOOOOOO so watchout!
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That said...
From a dead stop I'd put money on the 2k2 auto everytime. But from a roll it gets pretty interesting. The WIDE ratio 4AT tranny has lots of holes, and even though the 2k1 has much less power, the manual tranny lets them put the engine in the powrband regardless of what speed they're at because of the much closer ratios. From 30-50, and 70-90, a 2k1 5spd has MUCH better passing times than a 2k2 auto. The only place they were pretty equal was from 50-70. This is from CarTest2000 simulations, which have been pretty accurate when put to the test in the real world.
Oh yeah, "you 2k2 auto guys", my old slow 4th Gen 5spd also has better 30-50, equal 50-70, and better 70-90 passing times than jOOOOOOO so watchout!
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07-11-2002, 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
It's disturbing and even a little depressing that some of "you 2k2 guys" are starting to talk smack on other Maxima drivers
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It's disturbing and even a little depressing that some of "you 2k2 guys" are starting to talk smack on other Maxima drivers
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07-11-2002, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by ColgateU
You guys are so sad...bickering between each other whose faster, bickering with TL-S/CL-S guys whose faster. I suggest a 3 way race: TL-S, 2k2 auto, 2k1 5-speed. I got the digital video camera and the TL-S, anyone down?
You guys are so sad...bickering between each other whose faster, bickering with TL-S/CL-S guys whose faster. I suggest a 3 way race: TL-S, 2k2 auto, 2k1 5-speed. I got the digital video camera and the TL-S, anyone down?