V8 maxima
V8 maxima
Well I went and took my car in today, and I asked one of the sell representitives about the 2k4 max. I was like what you know about it? I said will it be awd? And he said he is not sure, they have not gotten brochers and not that much info on it. He said it will have an optional V8 option. The same one in the Infiniti Q45 and that new one that just came out. Thats cool, it might not be that slow but with a V8 I would reccomend rwd or awd. Probally awd will be optional also in later years/.
I HIGHLY doubt that!!! Optional higher displacement motor option???? If Nissan does that they are incredibly stupid...why would they offer the VK series in a car thats supposed to compete with other V6 passenger/sport sedans...a multi class car??that dude you talked to is smoking more crack than Bobby Brown! 
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I dunno
I dunno if Nissan wants the max to compete with the Passat W8 or what, but they will prolly offer the V-8 with the AWD version only (if a V-8 is in fact offered). A V-8 with AWD makes sense b/c a V-6 AWD would be slow due to the extra weight of the AWD system.
Besides, Nissan sticking that SE3.5 on the trunk might be a sign that another engine may be offered. Interesting. Can't wait 'til Jan 5th.
Besides, Nissan sticking that SE3.5 on the trunk might be a sign that another engine may be offered. Interesting. Can't wait 'til Jan 5th.
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
I HIGHLY doubt that!!! Optional higher displacement motor option???? If Nissan does that they are incredibly stupid...why would they offer the VK series in a car thats supposed to compete with other V6 passenger/sport sedans...a multi class car??that dude you talked to is smoking more crack than Bobby Brown!
I HIGHLY doubt that!!! Optional higher displacement motor option???? If Nissan does that they are incredibly stupid...why would they offer the VK series in a car thats supposed to compete with other V6 passenger/sport sedans...a multi class car??that dude you talked to is smoking more crack than Bobby Brown!
VW did that w/ the Passat and stickered it b/w $35 to $40K, and other than adding thier 4-motion system to the standard list of features already on the GLX V6, it really isn't different than its lower level GLS 1.8T/V6 or GLX V6 levels, and when Car and Driver ran an 8-best test of cars $30 - $40K, the Passat W-8 ranked dead last
Originally posted by Wht98SE
VW did that w/ the Passat and stickered it b/w $35 to $40K, and other than adding thier 4-motion system to the standard list of features already on the GLX V6, it really isn't different than its lower level GLS 1.8T/V6 or GLX V6 levels, and when Car and Driver ran an 8-best test of cars $30 - $40K, the Passat W-8 ranked dead last
VW did that w/ the Passat and stickered it b/w $35 to $40K, and other than adding thier 4-motion system to the standard list of features already on the GLX V6, it really isn't different than its lower level GLS 1.8T/V6 or GLX V6 levels, and when Car and Driver ran an 8-best test of cars $30 - $40K, the Passat W-8 ranked dead last
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Originally posted by Wht98SE
VW did that w/ the Passat and stickered it b/w $35 to $40K, and other than adding thier 4-motion system to the standard list of features already on the GLX V6, it really isn't different than its lower level GLS 1.8T/V6 or GLX V6 levels, and when Car and Driver ran an 8-best test of cars $30 - $40K, the Passat W-8 ranked dead last
VW did that w/ the Passat and stickered it b/w $35 to $40K, and other than adding thier 4-motion system to the standard list of features already on the GLX V6, it really isn't different than its lower level GLS 1.8T/V6 or GLX V6 levels, and when Car and Driver ran an 8-best test of cars $30 - $40K, the Passat W-8 ranked dead last
EDIT: and also a FWD V8...I don't think thats very appealing.
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Re: V8 maxima
Originally posted by spanishrice
Well I went and took my car in today, and I asked one of the sell representitives about the 2k4 max. I was like what you know about it? I said will it be awd? And he said he is not sure, they have not gotten brochers and not that much info on it. He said it will have an optional V8 option. The same one in the Infiniti Q45 and that new one that just came out. Thats cool, it might not be that slow but with a V8 I would reccomend rwd or awd. Probally awd will be optional also in later years/.
Well I went and took my car in today, and I asked one of the sell representitives about the 2k4 max. I was like what you know about it? I said will it be awd? And he said he is not sure, they have not gotten brochers and not that much info on it. He said it will have an optional V8 option. The same one in the Infiniti Q45 and that new one that just came out. Thats cool, it might not be that slow but with a V8 I would reccomend rwd or awd. Probally awd will be optional also in later years/.
It doesn't take an expert or even a person with much intuition to say the new maxima won't be so impressive. The body is ugly as hell...it looks like the altima's evil twin sister. Knowing nissan, they probably ****ed this one up. I highly doubt it's going to push any envelopes. ok ok...the 2k3 has 255 hp's but the freaking thing weighs too much to utilize those hp's...If nissan REALLY wants to own the street car sector, than it needs to make some DRASTIC improvements REAL quick and make a HOT ROD...I'm thinkin RWD, 270 HP's at least 100 pounds and even more lighter than the 2k3 maxima...that, my friend is a recipe for an ultimate street hot rod and a chance for nissan to definitely get back up on its feet...
OH yea, what's with all these nissans looking like each other and one more thing, why are all the new nissans becoming more about glamour and shine when In my opinion they should be about a fast and reliable engine and a sporty big body???
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The dumbass at the Nissan dealer here in Savannah, GA told me too about a V8 option, but he claims that it will come with 400hp. I just looked at him and laughed. I don't know what planet some of these guys are from who work at car dealerships, but it's defiently not the same one I'm from.....lol. I agree with Hunter11 in the fact that I don't see why Nissan would not put a V8 in the Maxima before the 350Z would have a V8. If they do then the 350Z would defiently have to go up in power or Nissan would have alot of ****ed off customers. Just my 2 cents though.
I just looked at him and laughed. I don't know what planet some of these guys are from who work at car dealerships, but it's defiently not the same one I'm from.....lol. I agree with Hunter11 in the fact that I don't see why Nissan would not put a V8 in the Maxima before the 350Z would have a V8. If they do then the 350Z would defiently have to go up in power or Nissan would have alot of ****ed off customers. Just my 2 cents though.
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Nissan has to beef up the Max to separate itself more from the Altima besides style. The 2K3 Max and Alt are VERY close now. 255 vs. 245 HP.
So I doubt the 04 Max will have only 260 HP. I think it'll be around 270-275 HP FWD V6, with an AWD, 295-300 HP V8 option.
19 days and counting...
So I doubt the 04 Max will have only 260 HP. I think it'll be around 270-275 HP FWD V6, with an AWD, 295-300 HP V8 option.
19 days and counting...
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Originally posted by phattyaltnatl
I think it'll be around 270-275 HP FWD V6, with an AWD, 295-300 HP V8 option.
I think it'll be around 270-275 HP FWD V6, with an AWD, 295-300 HP V8 option.
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Originally posted by Hunter11
Wouldn't they put a V8 in the 350Z,a sports car, before they did in a Maxima? I don't know, just askin'.
Wouldn't they put a V8 in the 350Z,a sports car, before they did in a Maxima? I don't know, just askin'.
Well did Nissan put a V8 in the G-35 coupe. Nope, and now that car is crap, everybody likes the 350z better than the G-35. If they would of put a V8 in it, it could of stand out from the crowd. I think it will have an optional V8 i don't knwo about 400 horsepower put probally have low 300ish horsepower.
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Really, I wonder who is everybody. I would buy a G35 coupe->
over the 350z anyday. G35 coupe is crap? Go drive one and its competitors then tell me what you think. It may not be the fastest but it gives you a blend of luxury,performance and comfort.
Later:Jose
Well did Nissan put a V8 in the G-35 coupe. Nope, and now that car is crap, everybody likes the 350z better than the G-35. If they would of put a V8 in it, it could of stand out from the crowd. I think it will have an optional V8 i don't knwo about 400 horsepower put probally have low 300ish horsepower. [/B][/QUOTE]
Later:Jose
Well did Nissan put a V8 in the G-35 coupe. Nope, and now that car is crap, everybody likes the 350z better than the G-35. If they would of put a V8 in it, it could of stand out from the crowd. I think it will have an optional V8 i don't knwo about 400 horsepower put probally have low 300ish horsepower. [/B][/QUOTE]
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Look at Bmw they did it with the M3 and the 540i->
The m3 had 240hp while the 540i had 282Hp. Both cars sold well no one complained. Now the M3 has 333hp so it got more horse power now until the new 540i come out with 350+hp. So it can be done and I don't see nissan having a problem doing it. Also remember having more horsepower than the 350z doesn't mean it would be faster. Look at the new Q45 it has 345hp and can barely hit mid 14 quarter mile times. If the new maxima comes out with 300hp v8 and a 6speed stick with rear wheel drive, and keep the weight around 3400 pounds we got ourself a winner.
Later:Jose
I agree with Hunter11 in the fact that I don't see why Nissan would not put a V8 in the Maxima before the 350Z would have a V8. If they do then the 350Z would defiently have to go up in power or Nissan would have alot of ****ed off customers. Just my 2 cents though. [/B][/QUOTE]
Later:Jose
I agree with Hunter11 in the fact that I don't see why Nissan would not put a V8 in the Maxima before the 350Z would have a V8. If they do then the 350Z would defiently have to go up in power or Nissan would have alot of ****ed off customers. Just my 2 cents though. [/B][/QUOTE]
you have proof of that???
and one again a 300hp V8 is a wasted of money when you have a 270-280hp V6 ready to go in. and for the last time, who in their right mind will buy an underpowered FWD V8???
Originally posted by spanishrice
everybody likes the 350z better than the G-35.
everybody likes the 350z better than the G-35.
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Well if you read my quote I said 300hp rear wheel drive car ->
I would never buy another front wheel drive car in my lifetime. What make you think 300hp is under powered for a v8? Bmw 540i has less than that and it sells, lincon ls has less it sells, cadillac STS has it sells GS400 OR 430 has it and those cars sell even mustangs has less and it sells. Like I said 300hp v8 with REAR wheel drive and a 6speed stick and most important keep the weight around 3400 pounds.
and one again a 300hp V8 is a wasted of money when you have a 270-280hp V6 ready to go in. and for the last time, who in their right mind will buy an underpowered FWD V8??? [/B][/QUOTE]
and one again a 300hp V8 is a wasted of money when you have a 270-280hp V6 ready to go in. and for the last time, who in their right mind will buy an underpowered FWD V8??? [/B][/QUOTE]
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G35c is better
I agree with Jose. The G35c may give up a little speed to the Z, but it handles better (longer wheelbase) and looks much better (IMO).
I think you guys are missing the point on the V8 option (if there will be one available). You need a V8 with AWD because the AWD system adds weight, so you need that extra torque that a V8 provides. Horsepower-wise, the two engines could be close (maybe a 5-10HP edge to the V8), but you need that torque.
Look at the new Toyota 4Runner. The 4.0 V6 puts out more HP than the V8 (245 vs 235), but the V8 has more torque (320 vs 283). Nissan can't have it's AWD version do 0-60 in 8 or more secs. It needs that extra grunt low in the rev band. Since Nissan plans on releasing a full-sized p/u truck with a V8 soon (and expanding the Pathfinder to full-size), it'll be natural to look at fitting the 8 in the max.
Z owners being upset b/c the max has a V8, I don't think so. The Z will still be faster, plus all you need to do is supercharge the V6 in the Z and you'll have at least 350 hp. It wouldn't surpise if Nissan did just that for the anniversary Z.
I think you guys are missing the point on the V8 option (if there will be one available). You need a V8 with AWD because the AWD system adds weight, so you need that extra torque that a V8 provides. Horsepower-wise, the two engines could be close (maybe a 5-10HP edge to the V8), but you need that torque.
Look at the new Toyota 4Runner. The 4.0 V6 puts out more HP than the V8 (245 vs 235), but the V8 has more torque (320 vs 283). Nissan can't have it's AWD version do 0-60 in 8 or more secs. It needs that extra grunt low in the rev band. Since Nissan plans on releasing a full-sized p/u truck with a V8 soon (and expanding the Pathfinder to full-size), it'll be natural to look at fitting the 8 in the max.
Z owners being upset b/c the max has a V8, I don't think so. The Z will still be faster, plus all you need to do is supercharge the V6 in the Z and you'll have at least 350 hp. It wouldn't surpise if Nissan did just that for the anniversary Z.
Re: Well if you read my quote I said 300hp rear wheel drive car ->
you're right, good point...but FWD is what I'm focusing on, V8 FWD I don't see it happening.
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Originally posted by Jose
I would never buy another front wheel drive car in my lifetime. What make you think 300hp is under powered for a v8? Bmw 540i has less than that and it sells, lincon ls has less it sells, cadillac STS has it sells GS400 OR 430 has it and those cars sell even mustangs has less and it sells. Like I said 300hp v8 with REAR wheel drive and a 6speed stick and most important keep the weight around 3400 pounds.
and one again a 300hp V8 is a wasted of money when you have a 270-280hp V6 ready to go in. and for the last time, who in their right mind will buy an underpowered FWD V8???
I would never buy another front wheel drive car in my lifetime. What make you think 300hp is under powered for a v8? Bmw 540i has less than that and it sells, lincon ls has less it sells, cadillac STS has it sells GS400 OR 430 has it and those cars sell even mustangs has less and it sells. Like I said 300hp v8 with REAR wheel drive and a 6speed stick and most important keep the weight around 3400 pounds.
and one again a 300hp V8 is a wasted of money when you have a 270-280hp V6 ready to go in. and for the last time, who in their right mind will buy an underpowered FWD V8???
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Boy, this thread is a waste of space...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=173335 
Freshalloy.com says that awd will be an option, perhaps down the road. Even Nissan says there will not be a V8 Maxima.
Freshalloy.com says that awd will be an option, perhaps down the road. Even Nissan says there will not be a V8 Maxima.
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Re: G35c is better
Originally posted by 92drexel
I agree with Jose. The G35c may give up a little speed to the Z, but it handles better (longer wheelbase) and looks much better (IMO).
I think you guys are missing the point on the V8 option (if there will be one available). You need a V8 with AWD because the AWD system adds weight, so you need that extra torque that a V8 provides. Horsepower-wise, the two engines could be close (maybe a 5-10HP edge to the V8), but you need that torque.
Look at the new Toyota 4Runner. The 4.0 V6 puts out more HP than the V8 (245 vs 235), but the V8 has more torque (320 vs 283). Nissan can't have it's AWD version do 0-60 in 8 or more secs. It needs that extra grunt low in the rev band. Since Nissan plans on releasing a full-sized p/u truck with a V8 soon (and expanding the Pathfinder to full-size), it'll be natural to look at fitting the 8 in the max.
Z owners being upset b/c the max has a V8, I don't think so. The Z will still be faster, plus all you need to do is supercharge the V6 in the Z and you'll have at least 350 hp. It wouldn't surpise if Nissan did just that for the anniversary Z.
I agree with Jose. The G35c may give up a little speed to the Z, but it handles better (longer wheelbase) and looks much better (IMO).
I think you guys are missing the point on the V8 option (if there will be one available). You need a V8 with AWD because the AWD system adds weight, so you need that extra torque that a V8 provides. Horsepower-wise, the two engines could be close (maybe a 5-10HP edge to the V8), but you need that torque.
Look at the new Toyota 4Runner. The 4.0 V6 puts out more HP than the V8 (245 vs 235), but the V8 has more torque (320 vs 283). Nissan can't have it's AWD version do 0-60 in 8 or more secs. It needs that extra grunt low in the rev band. Since Nissan plans on releasing a full-sized p/u truck with a V8 soon (and expanding the Pathfinder to full-size), it'll be natural to look at fitting the 8 in the max.
Z owners being upset b/c the max has a V8, I don't think so. The Z will still be faster, plus all you need to do is supercharge the V6 in the Z and you'll have at least 350 hp. It wouldn't surpise if Nissan did just that for the anniversary Z.
i could have sworn that the Audi A4 1.8t is AWD with only a V4 pushing only 170 hp with 3406 lbs curb weight, and you'r going to say a V6 with close to 300 hp and same weight will be too slow...
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Originally posted by DJSmitty
I'm with you no that. The back of the fresh alloy pics have the 3.5 SE badge like the Altimas, so we know thats at least the base model. -Smitty
I'm with you no that. The back of the fresh alloy pics have the 3.5 SE badge like the Altimas, so we know thats at least the base model. -Smitty
Nissan's got something sweet up it's sleeve in '04, and I can't wait so see what it is!!
V8 w/300 HP, RWD! DO IT DAMMIT!
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Re: Re: G35c is better
Originally posted by pmb1985
i could have sworn that the Audi A4 1.8t is AWD with only a V4 pushing only 170 hp with 3406 lbs curb weight, and you'r going to say a V6 with close to 300 hp and same weight will be too slow...
i could have sworn that the Audi A4 1.8t is AWD with only a V4 pushing only 170 hp with 3406 lbs curb weight, and you'r going to say a V6 with close to 300 hp and same weight will be too slow...
I dunno that stats of the A4 1.8t (0-60 times), but the current max prolly weighs close to 3200-3400 lbs now (5th gen)...now you're talking about a larger 2004 PLUS an AWD system that'll prolly push 3800-4000 lbs. So that's not comparing apples to apples. Plus I don't think the A4 1.8t with AWD sets the road on fire anyway (I wish I knew the numbers).
The Pathfinder (I'm guessing) has the 3.5L label for model year 2002 and 2003? because the 2001's look similar (I think Nissan changed the style very little if at all). So they had to do something to differentiate the 2002/3's from the 2001's. They probably didn't do it for the 2002 max b/c the HID's and the clear tails did the trick (my opinion).
2003 A4 1.8T is actually a very heavy car for it's size. Here are it's stats.
Dimensions
Exterior:
Length: 179 in.
Width: 69.5 in.
Height: 56.2 in.
Weight: 3406 lbs.
Wheel Base: 104.3 in.
Ground Clearance: 4.2 in.
Interior:
Front Head Room: 38.4 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 55.1 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 53.4 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.3 in.
Rear Leg Room: 34.3 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5
Performance Data
Performance:
Base Number of Cylinders: 4
Base Engine Size: 1.8 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 170 hp
Max Horsepower: 5900 rpm
Torque: 166 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 1950 rpm
Drive Type: AWD
Turning Circle: 36.4 ft.
Fuel Data
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.4 gal.
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 21 mpg / 29 mpg
Range in Miles: (City/Highway)
Manual: 365.4 mi. / 504.6 mi.
But why are we comparing a 4 cylinder to a 6 cylinder anyway? This is probably a more accurate comparison.
2003 A4 3.0 Quattro
Dimensions
Exterior:
Length: 179 in.
Width: 69.5 in.
Height: 56.2 in.
Weight: 3583 lbs.
Wheel Base: 104.3 in.
Ground Clearance: 4.2 in.
Interior:
Front Head Room: 38.4 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 55.1 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 53.4 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.3 in.
Rear Leg Room: 34.3 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5
Performance Data
Performance:
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 7 sec.
Braking Distance: 115 ft.
Base Number of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 220 hp
Max Horsepower: 6300 rpm
Torque: 221 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3200 rpm
Drive Type: AWD
Turning Circle: 36.4 ft.
Fuel Data
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.4 gal.
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 18 mpg / 25 mpg
Range in Miles: (City/Highway)
Manual: 313.2 mi. / 435 mi.
Dimensions
Exterior:
Length: 179 in.
Width: 69.5 in.
Height: 56.2 in.
Weight: 3406 lbs.
Wheel Base: 104.3 in.
Ground Clearance: 4.2 in.
Interior:
Front Head Room: 38.4 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 55.1 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 53.4 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.3 in.
Rear Leg Room: 34.3 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5
Performance Data
Performance:
Base Number of Cylinders: 4
Base Engine Size: 1.8 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 170 hp
Max Horsepower: 5900 rpm
Torque: 166 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 1950 rpm
Drive Type: AWD
Turning Circle: 36.4 ft.
Fuel Data
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.4 gal.
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 21 mpg / 29 mpg
Range in Miles: (City/Highway)
Manual: 365.4 mi. / 504.6 mi.
But why are we comparing a 4 cylinder to a 6 cylinder anyway? This is probably a more accurate comparison.
2003 A4 3.0 Quattro
Dimensions
Exterior:
Length: 179 in.
Width: 69.5 in.
Height: 56.2 in.
Weight: 3583 lbs.
Wheel Base: 104.3 in.
Ground Clearance: 4.2 in.
Interior:
Front Head Room: 38.4 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 55.1 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 53.4 in.
Front Leg Room: 41.3 in.
Rear Leg Room: 34.3 in.
Luggage Capacity: 13.4 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 5
Performance Data
Performance:
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 7 sec.
Braking Distance: 115 ft.
Base Number of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 220 hp
Max Horsepower: 6300 rpm
Torque: 221 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3200 rpm
Drive Type: AWD
Turning Circle: 36.4 ft.
Fuel Data
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17.4 gal.
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 18 mpg / 25 mpg
Range in Miles: (City/Highway)
Manual: 313.2 mi. / 435 mi.
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Originally posted by phattyaltnatl
Exactly. Why would they put a 3.5 badge on it if that't the ONLY engine available??
Nissan's got something sweet up it's sleeve in '04, and I can't wait so see what it is!!
V8 w/300 HP, RWD! DO IT DAMMIT!
Exactly. Why would they put a 3.5 badge on it if that't the ONLY engine available??
Nissan's got something sweet up it's sleeve in '04, and I can't wait so see what it is!!
V8 w/300 HP, RWD! DO IT DAMMIT!
Look what they did w/ the Altima, they put 2.5 & 3.5 badges on it so unless Nissan plays its cards right w/ the '04 Max, there may as well be a V8 Max based on the 4.5L 340hp version in the M & Q 45's w. less hp., or my other best guess is there would be a 4.0L V8 producing 300-320hp
So far to this point we know the following:
- Same suspension as the Altima's
- 5 forward gears & a manual mode for the auto. tranny, the 6-speed manual remains, but w/ revisions
- The 3.5L V6 will have at least 260hp
- It's even bigger than the 5th gen & Altima
- wheel size will start at 17" on the base model (GXE or S verions)
- The Bose radio will crank out 300 watts
- There's a possibie AWD option
I will find out more & give a more accurate update once I see the '04 Max at Cobo in mid January, pics will be provided of course
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Originally posted by Wht98SE
Look what they did w/ the Altima, they put 2.5 & 3.5 badges on it so unless Nissan plays its cards right w/ the '04 Max, there may as well be a V8 Max based on the 4.5L 340hp version in the M & Q 45's w. less hp., or my other best guess is there would be a 4.0L V8 producing 300-320hp
So far to this point we know the following:
- Same suspension as the Altima's
- 5 forward gears & a manual mode for the auto. tranny, the 6-speed manual remains, but w/ revisions
- The 3.5L V6 will have at least 260hp
- It's even bigger than the 5th gen & Altima
- wheel size will start at 17" on the base model (GXE or S verions)
- The Bose radio will crank out 300 watts
- There's a possibie AWD option
I will find out more & give a more accurate update once I see the '04 Max at Cobo in mid January, pics will be provided of course
Look what they did w/ the Altima, they put 2.5 & 3.5 badges on it so unless Nissan plays its cards right w/ the '04 Max, there may as well be a V8 Max based on the 4.5L 340hp version in the M & Q 45's w. less hp., or my other best guess is there would be a 4.0L V8 producing 300-320hp
So far to this point we know the following:
- Same suspension as the Altima's
- 5 forward gears & a manual mode for the auto. tranny, the 6-speed manual remains, but w/ revisions
- The 3.5L V6 will have at least 260hp
- It's even bigger than the 5th gen & Altima
- wheel size will start at 17" on the base model (GXE or S verions)
- The Bose radio will crank out 300 watts
- There's a possibie AWD option
I will find out more & give a more accurate update once I see the '04 Max at Cobo in mid January, pics will be provided of course
Anyone know which car Nissan is targeting with the '04 Max? I assume its the W8 Passat. They are a lot of coin!
BTW, I clicked on that link that someone posted about the VQ and the new max. That article (if I read the right one) says that the VQ will continue in the new max, it didn't exclude a V8.
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
my whole point is why would Nissan drop a V8 in the Max when they are already marketing their V8 flagships the Q45 and the new M45...V8 in the Max is overdoing it.
EDIT: and also a FWD V8...I don't think thats very appealing.
my whole point is why would Nissan drop a V8 in the Max when they are already marketing their V8 flagships the Q45 and the new M45...V8 in the Max is overdoing it.
EDIT: and also a FWD V8...I don't think thats very appealing.
Nissan needs to overcome this perception that the Maxima is a cheap car. For 6 years now, that's the only thing that could get them to move off of lots. It's gonna be tough, because people will be shocked if they actually have to part with 30 grand or more to get one. But the people ARE out there with the coyne. Nobody thinks a 38,000 Audi A4 is expensive, they accept it. Nissan needs to come up with the goods, and then change its image. Tough, but doable. Good thing is we are all armchair QB's who neither work for Nissan, sell them, or are willing to waste $$ on them. Most of us are headed in the Audi/BMW direction anyway!
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Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Nissan needs to overcome this perception that the Maxima is a cheap car. For 6 years now, that's the only thing that could get them to move off of lots. It's gonna be tough, because people will be shocked if they actually have to part with 30 grand or more to get one. But the people ARE out there with the coyne. Nobody thinks a 38,000 Audi A4 is expensive, they accept it. Nissan needs to come up with the goods, and then change its image. Tough, but doable. Good thing is we are all armchair QB's who neither work for Nissan, sell them, or are willing to waste $$ on them. Most of us are headed in the Audi/BMW direction anyway!
Nissan needs to overcome this perception that the Maxima is a cheap car. For 6 years now, that's the only thing that could get them to move off of lots. It's gonna be tough, because people will be shocked if they actually have to part with 30 grand or more to get one. But the people ARE out there with the coyne. Nobody thinks a 38,000 Audi A4 is expensive, they accept it. Nissan needs to come up with the goods, and then change its image. Tough, but doable. Good thing is we are all armchair QB's who neither work for Nissan, sell them, or are willing to waste $$ on them. Most of us are headed in the Audi/BMW direction anyway!
It just so happens that it is equivalent in some ways to some of the more high-end cars like the 3-series, or the TL ...
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Originally posted by PeterUbers
Why not just let Infiniti handle the germans and jap luxury makers and let Nissan CONTINUE to produce affordable, powerful, efficient, and semi-luxurious rides that look somewhat to very decent in your garage. If I buy a Nissan, I'm not comparing it to BMW's and mercedes or Acuras like some of the guys on this board (no offense)... i'm comparing it to features that the Camry, Accord, and taurus didn't have....
It just so happens that it is equivalent in some ways to some of the more high-end cars like the 3-series, or the TL ...
Why not just let Infiniti handle the germans and jap luxury makers and let Nissan CONTINUE to produce affordable, powerful, efficient, and semi-luxurious rides that look somewhat to very decent in your garage. If I buy a Nissan, I'm not comparing it to BMW's and mercedes or Acuras like some of the guys on this board (no offense)... i'm comparing it to features that the Camry, Accord, and taurus didn't have....
It just so happens that it is equivalent in some ways to some of the more high-end cars like the 3-series, or the TL ...
(unless they don't improve that interior!).But the problem is that the 3.5SE Altima took over the max's slot (mid to high 20's). So Nissan has two choices: 1) kill the max, and let Infiniti handle the 30k+ price range, or 2) upgrade the max (read: price increase) but offer it with something you can't get in a G35 right now (AWD, possible V8?).
I dunno how the FWD version will do if it's price similarly (or above) a RWD G35 that everyone loves. Sit tight, we may see some crazy-mad discounts late next year when these maxis sit on da lot (I hope anyway)
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The '04 Maxima is a FWD platform with the possablity of AWD. All FWD platforms have transversly mounted engines. Since this is a FWD platform it CANNOT simply be transformed into a RWD car. If (and this is a big "if") Nissan drops a V8 into the '04 Maxima it will have to be transversly mounted. I haven't heard or read ANYWHERE that Nissan has ever had a transversly mountable V8 or even has one in the works. A V8 is highly doubtful. AWD, though, might come later maybe as a 25th Anniversary Edition in '06 with as much horsepower squeezed out of the 3.5L as possable. Maybe even surpassng the Z's horsepower.
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Yeah,
Originally posted by warrlocked
The '04 Maxima is a FWD platform with the possablity of AWD. All FWD platforms have transversly mounted engines. Since this is a FWD platform it CANNOT simply be transformed into a RWD car. If (and this is a big "if") Nissan drops a V8 into the '04 Maxima it will have to be transversly mounted. I haven't heard or read ANYWHERE that Nissan has ever had a transversly mountable V8 or even has one in the works. A V8 is highly doubtful. AWD, though, might come later maybe as a 25th Anniversary Edition in '06 with as much horsepower squeezed out of the 3.5L as possable. Maybe even surpassng the Z's horsepower.
The '04 Maxima is a FWD platform with the possablity of AWD. All FWD platforms have transversly mounted engines. Since this is a FWD platform it CANNOT simply be transformed into a RWD car. If (and this is a big "if") Nissan drops a V8 into the '04 Maxima it will have to be transversly mounted. I haven't heard or read ANYWHERE that Nissan has ever had a transversly mountable V8 or even has one in the works. A V8 is highly doubtful. AWD, though, might come later maybe as a 25th Anniversary Edition in '06 with as much horsepower squeezed out of the 3.5L as possable. Maybe even surpassng the Z's horsepower.
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Originally posted by Hunter11
Wouldn't they put a V8 in the 350Z,a sports car, before they did in a Maxima? I don't know, just askin'.
Wouldn't they put a V8 in the 350Z,a sports car, before they did in a Maxima? I don't know, just askin'.
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Originally posted by JeffCatt
Because the 350z and the Maxima are two very friggin' different cars! The general public doesn't give a **** if a giant luxo-barge has a V8 and a 2 seater sports car has a V6! They will still assume the sports car is faster and it probably is! The maxima is about to get a lot heavier and Nissan doesn't care to design a transmission that can efficently use all the power like a German car. They might not put a V8 in. Good for them the 4000 pound Altima with a V6 claiming to pump out (an optimistic) 280hp should be almost as fun to drive as a Crown vic....sporty,no?
Because the 350z and the Maxima are two very friggin' different cars! The general public doesn't give a **** if a giant luxo-barge has a V8 and a 2 seater sports car has a V6! They will still assume the sports car is faster and it probably is! The maxima is about to get a lot heavier and Nissan doesn't care to design a transmission that can efficently use all the power like a German car. They might not put a V8 in. Good for them the 4000 pound Altima with a V6 claiming to pump out (an optimistic) 280hp should be almost as fun to drive as a Crown vic....sporty,no?
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Originally posted by warrlocked
4000 lb Altima?? If memory serves me the Altima is about 3200-3400lbs...maybe less. 280hp?? The '03 Altima 3.5 SE has 245hp.
4000 lb Altima?? If memory serves me the Altima is about 3200-3400lbs...maybe less. 280hp?? The '03 Altima 3.5 SE has 245hp.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JeffCatt
I'm talking about the *New* Maxima, you know the sweet little fatty that is nothing more than a bloated Altima.......duh. [/QUOTE
You are the one who called the New max a bloated Altima...
Warrlocked, the poor guy can't understand his own post, not to mention a reply to it.
I'm talking about the *New* Maxima, you know the sweet little fatty that is nothing more than a bloated Altima.......duh. [/QUOTE
You are the one who called the New max a bloated Altima...
Warrlocked, the poor guy can't understand his own post, not to mention a reply to it.