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whats up bro congrats for being the first se auto to run at the track... how much did u lower the presure to? and what was the weather like? hot humid?? but 15.2 isnt bad but i think it could do alittle better?? great job!!! did u nail it off the line? or just ease on to it? im going next week so ill se if i run evan or do better. weather permitting of course, how much does the spare and jack weight anyway??

 

i cant believe noone responded to this thread yet??

 

Low 15's is about what I figured, Nissan may have done it again.......6th gen slower than 5th gen, just like the 5th gen (00/01) was slower than the 4th gen. More horsepwer (maybe) but more weight.....

 

i really dont think its slower than the 02 and 03, the temps where bad and the track conditions where horrible.. so i think it will run neck and neck with any stock 02 and 03.

 

Not bad, but I hope/think you could do better, 02/03's are running better times on not so great track as well thats proven. Your the first hopefully it will get better for the 04's I hope one breaks into the 14's and traps at 93-95mph like stock 02/03's can, and if an SE is running these times I can only imagine what the 4spd auto SL would run.

 

Well, it's really not bad. It's not a track car, it weighs more than any previous Maxima.

 

But has more power and a more effecient auto tranny than any other Max as well!

 

That's not too bad Quiksilver

I plugged in 90 degree heat and 85% humidity into the acceleration computer and got the following for the 04 Maxima SE with auto tranny:

1/4 mile in 15.08 @ 95.3 mph

Also keep in mind, this is calculated at sea level in perfectly still wind, with only 30 pounds of fuel, a 160 pound driver and tire pressures of 35 psi when hot, and perfectly level road (not even an inch elevation change).

Everything being perfect, the 04 Max SE auto should run a:

14.93 @ 95.96 mph

Your 15.2 @ 92+ mph is pretty good considering all things will basically NEVER be perfect!

 

I guess I can count out high 13's with just an intake. just kidding.
14's is decent for such a big car. I'll definitely be adding an intake but I'll leave the stock exhause because I like the quiet ride. I wait and see what people say about the headers when they hit the marker, I really don't want to sacrifice the quiet stealh ride.

 

I ran my GF 02 auto the other night after a few races and i honked it off. I drive a 6 speed 04. anyways i told her to floor it on 2 honks because the auto takes a sec to go so we went from about 70 and i dropped it to 3rd and when i shifted to 4th I had about 1 1/2 and still pulling. I really think its a drivers race between the 02,03,and 04. Just my $.02

 

 

More weight and more power cancel each other out. You have to have a significant increase in hp to see the difference.

The 03 Max has what 260hp, the 04 265, 5 more?
The 04 Max weighs maybe 200lbs more? Simply divide for the power to weight ratio. Aerodynamics only play a large part at speeds over 100mph.

But it is an auto, the manual 04 Max should be faster by a tick or 2, still not bad times at all considering the heat.

 

Try 86 degrees and 94% humidity, that’s exactly what is was when he ran last night

 

Actually the 03's have 255hp and donot have the 5spd auto.

 

Nah it is only a couple of runs. Very hot day. 60ft is not so hot. Probably be close to the same speed. Manually shifted? What RPM?

 

c2003k was there and taped both my runs, but the track was really bad last night for everyone. I really think that after it cools down it will run a high 14. I might take that box out and just put a filter on it next time.

I used the SportShift last night and it usually shifts for you but I shifted before it shifted for me. I lowered the tires just a little bit, I'm not sure how much it was though. The spare and the jack weighed probably 40-50lbs.

I'll just have to wait until the temp. drops to about 60 or so, should run alot faster then.

About the SL auto, I ran a friend of mine in one a few days ago from 2 red lights, beat him both times about 2-3 lengths each time. Not sure if it was his driving, or something else, but c2003k knows someone that has one, so he will probably take it to the track, hopefully.

 

15.03 @ 95.27 mph

Again, at sea level, no wind, no elevation change, 30 lbs of fuel, 35 psi in tires (hot), and 160 lbs driver.

 

Yeah 02 Auto against 6-speed 04 is not really even race. I raced one Auto 02 Max and pulled on him as well.

 

Wow if he was driving the SL is alot slower.

 

Very true Monte........

 

Ill say 15.2

 

the trap speeds are really low
I'd expect 95ish

lets see what you get when it's cooler

 

No it wasn't.

Conditions in Gainesville, FL on 8/13 from 6pm to 10pm

Temps ranged from 87 to 77 degrees as it got later

Humidity ranged from 57 to 81 % as it got later

Data from www.wunderground.com (NOAA)


Dave

 

QuikSilver04: You got rid of a 2k1 Lightning for a Maxima?

 

Yea, couldn't afford $20 or more a day in 93 octane

 

Yeah, that 10-11 mpg really bites-*** doesn't it?

 

Mine was more like 6-8mpg usually, because I had to drive alot around town, stop-and-go was terrible on gas, considering I also had a 16" custom air filter and a dual-program chip, along with no mufflers. Was quite a gas hog, but would also roast 1st to 2nd on dry pavement
About to get my AA this fall, then move to Jacksonville and go to UNF so I had to get something else better on gas, and I think the Max is slightly more attractive to the female gender, since most of the ones I know have given more compliments on the car than the truck

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave B


No it wasn't.

Conditions in Gainesville, FL on 8/13 from 6pm to 10pm

Temps ranged from 87 to 77 degrees as it got later

Humidity ranged from 57 to 81 % as it got later

Data from www.wunderground.com (NOAA)


Dave [/QUOTE

I got my info from UF; I am not going to argue about it. I meant to save the picture to post, because I know someone would do this

 

Felt like it was alot hotter and thicker than it sounds. I know it will run better when the air cools down and thins out...

BTW, c2003k, did I right light both times? Somebody posted in the 1/4 timeslip forum under my post and said I redlighted both times, that's why I beat the SS off the line so bad, did I?

 

No you did not. When I raced a cl-type s he jumped both times his r/t was….-.078. Since there is no “-“by your number, you just timed it perfect.

 

I think you might be forgetting that CarTest2000 assumes 15" 45lb wheels and tires. The Maxima has whopper 18" wheels/tires that probably weigh about 55lb each. The wheel weight algorithm isn't accurate at all, so you have to adjust the curb weight. 8lb of curb weight for every extra single pound of extra wheel/tire mass, and you have 4 wheels/tires. So that's 320lb you need to add to the curb weight to compensate for the big 18's. Once you do that, I get...

Hot-n-Humid 90F/90% Hum: 15.11 @ 93.35 w/2.39 60'
Standard, 65F/55% Hum: 15.05 @ 93.74 w/2.39 60'
Cold, 35F/0% Hum: 14.97 @ 94.22 w/2.38 60'

The numbers I'm getting are a bit closer with the wheel weight compensation. I don't think these cars are going to be trapping at 95/96 mph on the automagic without some mods. Just too heavy, especially the 18's. Also, the program is much more accurate when you are using an actual dyno curve. With the 02/03's, the rated numbers were way off compared to the actual numbers, so who know what this engine is really doing. I don't think anybody has dynoed yet, have they?

 

These are the only 1/4 numbers that I know about. If you are really motivated you can search (good luck) for their respective track conditions in other posts. The auto is in FL and the 6spd is in E. TX. So One hot and humid and one hot and really humid.

SE 6 Speed

SE 5 Spd Auto

 

I dont think anyone has dynoed yet, although Frankencar is suppose to have a dyno up soon to show the true power of their intake so i assume they will have a baseline along with the intake installed, that should give us a general idea and the answer to the question as to if the maxima really does have 10 more hp and tq. I possibly might take my 04 back to the track this saturday. I want to improve my 14.8 and put a few 5th gen times to shame. Not hatin' just enjoying this new car to much.

 

How did you launched at the track? Did you get mad wheel hop? I am just wondering if 2004 Max has the same nasty wheel hop 2002 Maxima has. My car right now is getting rear engine mount replaced because I got mad wheel hop when I went to the track first time last week. It apperantly damaged the engine mount.

I noticed you ran 14.85 at 92mph with 2.0 60ft. Those are some nice 60ft times.

I don't think you will put 2002/2003 Maximas times to shame. I ran 14.7 at 96.5mph, which is not that much faster 1/4 time than you, but my 60ft were horrible 2.445. If I can get 2.0 60ft as you got, I should be in the lower 14s for sure.

Good luck with your runs.

 

I had really bad hop on the first run, just because I gave it too much gas, 2nd time it only hopped once since I didn't give it as much gas. I know I could leave the line without spinning, just a matter of timing and practice...

 

the 04 is just as fast if not faster than a 03. i know a guy that runs consistant 14.6s at the track in his 03, auto with just a cone filter, and he drove my auto 5spd max "stock" and he said for a fact my car is just as fast if not faster than his 03 auto... so i wont go by that 14.8 with that max bad weather and track conditions, and he already said that 2.0 was wrong for that 60ft. by the way i got my car wieghted lastnight my 04 max auto elite pachage weights 3580 with me in it... wo without me in it the car is 3460 with a 1/4 tank of gas...

 

I am not sure who is faster. Don't really care, all I was saying that by his time he won't put other 5gens times to shame.

I am not saying 2004 Max is slow, I am just saying from personal experience and the track times, seems like 2002/2003 Max just pulls harder.

 

Butt dynos don't prove anything. Timeslips and dynos do, though.

 

I am gonna start charging $20 to butt dyno people's cars, I will get an official looking print out to give them too