as far as i can tell the 03's and 04s run the same, i actually do think the 04 has alittle more power than the 03... i got the car weighted yesturday and the 04 se auto with elite pachage with 1/4 tank of gas is 3460lbs evan... with me in it it was 3580.... im not downing the 03 so far yes we have seen better times for 02 and 03 but theres a reason more people have ran them, and better weather condtions. so far the fastest stock 5spd auto se time for an 04 with no tracktion and 89 degrees and 70% humidity is a 15.1 at 93.8 mph.. thats with a floor it off the line get way to much spin, get totaly off the gas pedal and than back on it and still run a 15.1. so the 04 is in the 14s as well, on a nicer day and traction. so the weight is about 200 pnds difference and there i guess is more power atleast alittle more power in the 04, to make up for the weight, there where modded maximas actually running the same if not worse than the 15.1. so that says something...

 

Well i found it quite odd that all my other runs were 2.4s and a couple 2.3s and then this one time i get a 2.0. I doubt that its right but it could be, but ive also had a 500 mph trap speed so i know this track has problems with the clock.

 

Agreed and not all of the 02/03's that ran those great numbers were not in optimal conditions either! Similiar power to 02/03's but it seems to me that that the 5spd auto isnt making the car any quicker like most claimed it would the 5spd(yes the 5spd auto and extra torque and 10hp should make up the difference of 200 something pounds but its not). I can only imagine what a 4spd auto SL would run "if" the 5spd auto is/isnt helping out the SE.

 

 

It will most likely be a drivers race between the 5th/6th gens.......but yea your correct the 6th gen sure isnt going to be able to shame a 5th gen (02/03). Cant believe there are no dynos and more time slips with the 6th gens......

 

i cant believe it either. only 3 of us took our maximas to the track so for so far quicksilver, glude with his 6 spd, and me...

 

Fast and quick are two completely different things. Quick is ET and fast is MPH. The 5th gen has the upper hand in quick because it's lighter and makes the same power. The 6th gen 5 speed auto will probably be marginally faster because of it's better gearing. The problem with the 6th auto is weight and gearing off the line. It weighs nearly 150lb more, has a worse power to weight ratio, and 1st gear is nearly like the 5th gen. Mark my word here, what we will see with the 6th gen auto 5 speed is it will be slower at the start and then a once it hits it's better 2nd and 3rd gears it will pull harder than the 5th gen. 0-40mph acceleration means everything in terms of 1/4 mile performance and the 5th gen is simply better at getting into the power quicker which will ultimately make it quicker in the 1/4. What we will see with the 6th gen is high MPHs in relation to slower ETs which similiar to what you'd see in a Lexus LS400 (14.7@97mph), Seville STS (14.8@97mph), BMW 7-series (14.6@98mph). Slow starts and high finishing MPH.


Dave

 

Yeah definetly agree with you on new 745i. I drove it at the BMW eveny and when you floor it off the line there is almost no power. It felt very heavy and slow. But once it is rolling, damn it was fast. I was going 90mph and it felt I was doing 50mph in my car. Definetly an autobahn car.

As for 6 gen Max trap speeds. So far what I have seen they were not that great for 5-speed Auto and 6-speed. Not even breaking 94mph for both of them.
Maybe those 18" that are slowing them down?

 

remember we've all ran our 04's in very hot and humid weather.. and when i trapped my 93 mph.. i spun alot off the line got off the gas and than back on it... on a cool day and when i figure out how to launch the right way with my auto.. i will hit i would say 95 96 mph...

 

I understand you ran in hot and humid weather. So did I and other people that ran 2002/2003 Maximas.
Of course cool weather will be better, but I don't think the weather alone will make you trap 96mph if you trapping 93mph now. 18" rims are might be the reason that is slowing you guys down. I love the way car looks with them though. I saw two 2004 SEs this weekend and I am in love the way it looks. Very nice.

I am planning to go back to the track soon too, as it will get cooler her in Boston. I am hopping for lower 14s, just need to improve my crappy 60ft of 2.443.

 

Even with lots of spin, MPH really doesn't change, only ET. I've run 14.6s@95mph and 15.0s@95mph with the only difference being a mid 2.2 60' vs high 2.4 60'.

89 degrees and 70% humidity is pretty bad, but are you listing the highs for the day or what it really was at the track the evening you were racing? Either way, the car will be quicker once things cool down, but traction will get even worse with a cold surface. You might a .1-.2 quicker and 1-2mph faster when running a 50 degree day. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.


Dave

 

when i went first run it was 89 degrees and 52 % humidity second run was 85 degrees and 69% humidity...