whats up guys? well i ran my car in august and my best was a 15.1 at 93.7 mph.. i didnt know how to launch i didnt have enough practice... so i figured now its a little cooler, temp was in the mid 70s, and humidity was in the 60 to 65% range... my old best 60ft was 2.49.. this time i dropped the front presure to 23 psi has some wheel spin got a 2.28 60ft and here it is guys 1/4 time of 14.77 at 95.4 mph... i was so happy i finaly figured out the launch... ill post more later when i have time im at work... i avg 14.8s all day long, and only one 15 second run

 

Very nice times!! I was going to go to the track soon since its getting cooler, plus I didnt remove spare or drop tire pressure last time so i couldnt hook up very good. I have no doubts that I can hit a 14.6 or 14.5 this time out. hell you dropped 4 tenths with an auto so i dont see it outa the question for my 6 speed to drop that much. good work!!

 

thanks alot the key was to get the rpms up to 2000 rpm light turns get off the brake but dont hit the gas right away, let the car jump from the 2000 rpm launch than hit the gas almost all the way than when u feel its safe where your not gonna get alot of wheel spin nail it nail it nail it.. these steps happen very fast but if u do it right u get just enough wheel spin and u launch hard...

 

Please post the timeslips from these runs...

 

Yea lets see some proof........nice times by the way.

 

I knew all the 5th gen guys would be over here on this one. Anyways the slips would be nice to see.

 

dam i dont have a scanner.. im sorry guys.. when i did the 15.1 and the 15.2 lol noone asked for timeslips lol.. guys it was one 14.7 run.. the rest where high 14s... the first 5 runs where 15.0's and and high 14.9s the last 4 runs i did when i got the launch down pat i was doing 14.8s with one being the 14.7.. ill get the slip and ill write it on here. thats probably the best i can do... but trust me i did run these times, the car is capable but its a pain to do until u know the launch

 

sorry guys that is the best i can do, believe me i wouldnt lie if the car only ran 15.0s i would say so.. the car is fast enough for me.

 

Dont start flaming just because the slips were requested........

 

yeah its ok for u guys to ask me for slips. i understand why u guys would want proof of this, its the first 04 max auto thats got into the 14s stock.. its ok, i cant scan them but ill post them when i get a chance. there was a blue 03 majestic blue max there wheni ran the car.. me and him where running like neck and neck times the whole time... it was great.. he was impressed with the times to, he didnt think the car would run that good. i knew it would my bro has a acura cl-s and he's runs 14.8s at the track and i have beat him, so i knwo the car was capable..

 

How was I flaming??? I too said slips would be nice.

 

hmmmm....the new max may have more than just 10hp over the 2k2-2k3...i doubt the 5th gen can run like that with the extra weight

good job!! way to represent the new Max

 

thanks bro.. believe me last time i ran the car i let the 04 max people down big time.. alot of people havent ran the car yet, theres only three of us that ran our cars so far.. two autos and a 6spd.. i wish more people would run the 04 max so we would get more times out so we know what the avg of the 04s run the 1/4.... i say on the avg 02,03 and the 04s run the same..

 

The 5th Gen is 180-290 lbs lighter across the board. In order to equal the power to weight ratio of the 5th Gen, you would have needed at least 18-29 more HP than the 5th Gen. I believe the 5 speed auto is a major advantage over the 4 speed auto of the 5th Gen, but the gearing advantage would only make the 6th Gen even at best. The heavy 18" wheels are a huge disadvantage, but if you have 17" on a 6th Gen, then it's a pure drivers race IMHO. Let me know what options and packages you have on the car ga2000 and I can try and calculate your results using cartest and my desktop drag/dyno combo...

 

The better gearing is what makes all the difference. There might be a little more power there, but the 5 speed auto 6th gen means everything. If the 02-03 5th gen would have come with a 5 speed auto, it could have been a low 14 second car, stock.

Simply getting a .2 second quicker 60' and running in cooler weather means everything. His prior best was a 15.1 at almost 94mph with flat out dismal high 2.4 60 foots. Now he's managed to pull his 60' into the higher 2.2 range. Like most of us drag racers have seen, for every .1 you shed in 60', you loose .2 on the far end. You also typically pick up 1mph or so. He went from 15.1@94mph to a 14.7@95mph. It doesn't surprise me one bit. Congrats ga2000.

Please prove me wrong, but I think it will be pretty hard to improve on that unless you manage to land a 2.1 60'. You could possibly see a 14.5 with some intake tweaks, but seeing how this is your dad's car, I don't know if he'll let you play with it. BTW, does he even know you're racing his Max?


Dave

 

Great !!!! How much cooling down did you let the car do between runs?

I watched a video on 350z.com and the guy said that these cars/engines get heat soaked pretty quick, hence a power loss. I figure if the Z does it, so does the Max.

Anyway, congrats. Wait on unitl the Mods come, I feel that my car has gotten much faster over the past 3,000 miles, I have 7,300 now.

The K&N drop in also made a noticable difference. But the exhaust sucks, very restrictive up front, but this may have been by design?

 

Nice runs, I should be getting mine out to the track in a few weeks to a month or so, highs are still over 100 here right now.

If I were you, I would take the slips down to a store like office max and have them scan them to disk for you, won't cost you more than a dollar or so total and it will get the nay sayers to zip it, they seem to only do that when proven wrong

 

some light weight 16s and you'll be down to a 14.6 I gues.

those stock 18 blings must weight over 25 lbs!

 

PM me, I'll tell you how to get them scanned... Oh, and buy a scanner. You can get an adequate scanner for about the price of a tank of gas these days.

 

oooohh nice times! Congrats!

 

Nice times.
I want to go back to the track myself. Last time when I ran it was pretty hot and I got pretty bad 60 ft times as well. I still did ok but I think I can get into low 14s if I only improve my 60fts.

 

How about just giving us the run down of the entire slip?


Dave

 

That'll work for me too...

hell, I'll scan the slips for you and host them if you want...but you'll have to PM me to get my address...

 

by 6:00 ill have the slip on here, not scanned but ill run home on lunch, and write it down word for word.. 60ft etc.. i hope thats ok...

 

That is fine for me, but you will have nay sayers until you slap the proof up here, do yourself a favor and stop off at Office Max or Staples on the way back to the office and scan them.

 

lol u guys are funny.. ill do my best.. theres always nay sayers.. evan if i post them, it could always be someone elses slip.. so ill just write them.. it doesnt bother me if some people dont believe me

 

ok here we go.. 60ft was 2.285 300 ft mark was 6.37 1/8 mile was 9.621 at 75.58 mph and the 1/4 was 14.793 at 95.39 mph.... im sorry i thaught it was 14.77 it was 14.793..

 

Close enough for Government work...and I should know.

 

Man, now that ga2000 has ran a 14.77 that makes me want to go to the track. I'm not stock anymore though so it might be slightly faster, not sure how the track will be though.

ga2000, kind of hard to put into words how to get a good launch but it sounds like you are doing it exactly how I do, but I don't go to 2K rpm, I stay around 1300 so I don't loose too much traction. I think with the intake now I'm going to spin a bit more than I did before. I might take a trip over there this Wednesday, but I really should wait another month or so...

 

60ft 2.285----330ft 6.37----1/8 mile 9.621 at 75.58 mph----1000 ft 12.4 and the 1/4 of 14.793 at 95.39 mph.. thats better

 

quicksilver dam go now and in a month... go go go.. lol u just have the intake now right? and your best so far is the 15.2 i know u can do better

 

i wanna go again so hopefully i get to go... we might get a huricane this thursday or friday so i guess i cant go then... i hate new york

 

To be able to put down these kind of times stock with 3400+ lb curb weight and massive 18" rims, this new VQ35 *HAS* to be putting down a serious amount of additional power over the previous 02/03 VQ35DE.

Accounting for everything including the translated inertial weight of the 18's (+ 300lb) in CarTest2000, I modeled your run down to about a tenth accuracy all around with 275 HP and 265 TQ I would not be surprised to see these suckers dynoing at or near 350z/G35 levels. There is definitely a lot more top-end in the new motor.

Can't wait to see a dyno Then we'll really be able to firm up the numbers.

 

Kinko's 8 9 10

 

I don't put much faith in CarTest because stock 240hp/280tq long-geared 4 speed auto GTPs that weigh 3500lbs are pulling these kinds of time and MPHs.

I still say that a majority of the 6th gens performance is coming from the addition of a gear and the shortening of all the gears above 1st. I'm estimating we'll see about 220fwhp for the auto 6th gen.


Dave

 

good to see that you 6th gen owners are starting to learn how to whip your cars into shape lol. jus playing but its good to see the new max's are getting good numbers now...keep up the good work yall, carry on!!

 

Which would totally kick azz, IMHO

 

the key to the auto is to know how to use the autostick i run 14.5's on my se 5spd.

 

scanned timeslip please.

 

ah, yes, but that's making the assumption that the engines are actually making 240hp/280tq stock.

I could never replicate the low-14 times that some 02-03 6spd guys were getting until I switched the ratings around from the 255/246 rated to the 240/265 actual. I think the GTP's numbers are under-rated a tad. And if you fire up the Camaro LS1 model in CarTest with the factory rated specs, obviously you are not gonna be able to reproduce the stock times that the cars are capable of because the factory ratings are so pessimistic it's not even funny. 305hp? Try more like 340-350.

Neal said he was able to model his runs down to a few hundredths of a second, and he knows every last little detail about his car down to dyno plots, traction, and weight. The more consistent the computer model is with the real-world car, the more accurate it will be. And if factory ratings are not consistent with real-world, then that's the first thing you need to correct for.