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Old 10-18-2003, 11:21 AM
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2k4 Maxima Slower than 2k3 Maxima?

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"...Which probably explains why this car looks slower on paper than the last Maxima we tested in October 2002, requiring 6.4 seconds to achieve 60 mph (instead of 6.0) and 15 seconds flat to cover the quarter-mile. The last Maxima took only 14.7 seconds to do the same job."



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Old 10-18-2003, 11:33 AM
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a guy here has already run 14.6 in his stock 04SE auto. A few more are right behind him running 14.8's also with automatics. And the best stock times for 02 6spds are like 14.1-14.3. Mag racing is utterly pointless. These cars are just a bear to launch. It takes practice and patience so no mag is ever going to extract the full potential out of the car in the time they have it unless it is purely dumb luck.
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Old 10-18-2003, 07:17 PM
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i think a 6th gen being quicker than a 5th gen is dumb luck.......
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Old 10-18-2003, 08:13 PM
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man I love the 5th genners that come in here just to say stupid things like that
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lol, im kidding, i just wanted to see some reactions....
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Old 10-18-2003, 08:39 PM
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whats the fastest completely stock 03 time?
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Old 10-18-2003, 09:03 PM
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not sure what the 03 auto time is, but i think someone hit 14.2 in a 6speed.... it was maybe a 02 or an 03 (same thing)... ill ask...
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Old 10-18-2003, 11:10 PM
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There was a GLE from Alabama that ran 14.4 about a year ago. I havent seen the guy on the Org in a while. Someone might remember. He had a hooked up Supra too I think. My best was 14.6 . I know Blubyu dipped into the high 13's with slicks. But most Autos are in the high 14's.
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Old 10-18-2003, 11:26 PM
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yeah i would like to know the top 5 stock auto 02 and 03 times as well.. i know the 6spds well driven ran low 14s already
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Old 10-19-2003, 10:41 AM
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yeah i would like to know the top 5 stock auto 02 and 03 times as well.. i know the 6spds well driven ran low 14s already
Well my stock times are in my sig, I just left it in drive and ran it did the same with the 350 that day. I found that this way I got the best times as the computer shifted it just right compared to my shifts. I do think the 04 SE and 02/03 autos will be similiar bu tthe SL will be a few tenths slower than either to 60 and in the 1/4 because of the added weight all around and the 4spd auto.
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Old 10-19-2003, 10:48 AM
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wow you ran a 14.1 in your Z and it's auto? That's as good as a lot of the 6MT's!

Very impressive.
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yeah 350z auto can run low 14s thats why i say, the max doesnt have 280 hp..
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Old 10-19-2003, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ga2000
yeah 350z auto can run low 14s thats why i say, the max doesnt have 280 hp..
well the auto max is 250-300 lb heavier and FWD, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

280hp in a nearly 3500 lb FWD car is simply not going to move the same way it will with a 3200 lb RWD platform.
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=2421519
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
wow you ran a 14.1 in your Z and it's auto? That's as good as a lot of the 6MT's!

Very impressive.
Yeah I did one guy ran a 14.02 and the next run he ran a 14.08, yeah the auto 350 typically run in this range and trap from 96-99 typically. The 350,02-04 Maximas and G35 auto's 1/4 mile times are running damn close to their manual counter parts which in the past just didnt happen with the Max or 300ZX without mods.
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Old 10-19-2003, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Yeah I did one guy ran a 14.02 and the next run he ran a 14.08, yeah the auto 350 typically run in this range and trap from 96-99 typically. The 350,02-04 Maximas and G35 auto's 1/4 mile times are running damn close to their manual counter parts which in the past just didnt happen with the Max or 300ZX without mods.
I guess these cars are getting to the point where there's just too much power to control reliably for good launches with an MT for all but the best drivers. And considering it's still "only" a 3.5L V6 and not a SB Chevy or something that's pretty damn impressive.

You never saw any auto guys running the same general times stock as the MT guys with the VQ30's. Not enough torque for serious auto performance. The VQ35 has the crazy torque needed to really drive an auto seriously I guess.
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I guess these cars are getting to the point where there's just too much power to control reliably for good launches with an MT for all but the best drivers. And considering it's still "only" a 3.5L V6 and not a SB Chevy or something that's pretty damn impressive.

You never saw any auto guys running the same general times stock as the MT guys with the VQ30's. Not enough torque for serious auto performance. The VQ35 has the crazy torque needed to really drive an auto seriously I guess.
You think like I think, yes your totally right the VQ30 auto's just could'nt do 1/4 miles similiar to its manual counterpart.
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Old 10-19-2003, 10:57 PM
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The new gen Max does look very bulky but very luxurious.
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Originally Posted by ga2000
yeah i would like to know the top 5 stock auto 02 and 03 times as well.. i know the 6spds well driven ran low 14s already
see sig time (slight wheelspin on run)
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Old 10-27-2003, 07:59 PM
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The 04 engine is tuned slightly better, but perhaps the approx 180 addl lbs of mass make the 04 a bit slower?
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Old 10-27-2003, 08:18 PM
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Bear to launch is right. However, the stock SE 03 has some sick speed and I put to wood to an '04. It's all in the driving baby! I am not the best but I was better that the '04 that day!
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Old 10-30-2003, 09:32 AM
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im pretty sure ive run the fastest in a stock 03 w a 6spd......jc whitley drove it in rockingham to a 14.23 with a half tank of gas and potenzas still on it......i took it to virginia motorsports park in dinwiddie two weeks later and ran a 14.18...still stock and with potenzas still on it.....
probobly could have gotton in the 13s or real close but i was gettint.75 lights....too much spinning...never got good launches
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If you people think the 2k2 and 2k3 maximas are faster than the 2k4 maximas you're insane! I have personally raced one and think I'll shed my little adventure with anyone. I raced my cousin's 2k2 maxima last weekend from a red light. First off you need to the mods on these cars. My cousin has a completely white 2k2 debadged auto max with blacked off windows, a K&N, Lawson exhaust, cut off resonator, stillen body kit, a drop and light aftermarket wheels. As for me, I have a silver 2k4 debadged se auto max with blacked out windows and a chopped off resonator....that's it!! Anways, we were takin his car to the body shop to get one of his side skirts repainted because it flaked in one spot. He has a big head because he hadnt lost a race yet and we also had 2 people in each car so i guess he thought he would show out. I was followin him and at every stop and red light he was smokin his tires. Then on our last stretch to the shop was a 4 lane. And the first light we came to turned red. First thing that went thru my mind was.......****!!! Anyways he strated revvin his engine up. And if any of you havent heard a lawson exhaust on a maxima....it sounds ****in sweeeeeett!!! So I held my rpm's at 2400 and his was probably about the same. As soon as the light went green we let 'em rip, both of us spun thru thru the red light and smoked 'em a lil bit. By the time we were going 25 I was a car and a half ahead of him, by 55 or so I had him by 4 car lengths and then I hit 85 and was a good 8 or 9 car lengths ahead of him and I jus let off thw gas. He was ****ed off!! So there you go. That's a street race of some slightly modified maximas!!
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I'm not sure what this street race of yours really proves.
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Originally Posted by 04_LiquidMax
If you people think the 2k2 and 2k3 maximas are faster than the 2k4 maximas you're insane! I have personally raced one and think I'll shed my little adventure with anyone. I raced my cousin's 2k2 maxima last weekend from a red light. First off you need to the mods on these cars. My cousin has a completely white 2k2 debadged auto max with blacked off windows, a K&N, Lawson exhaust, cut off resonator, stillen body kit, a drop and light aftermarket wheels. As for me, I have a silver 2k4 debadged se auto max with blacked out windows and a chopped off resonator....that's it!! Anways, we were takin his car to the body shop to get one of his side skirts repainted because it flaked in one spot. He has a big head because he hadnt lost a race yet and we also had 2 people in each car so i guess he thought he would show out. I was followin him and at every stop and red light he was smokin his tires. Then on our last stretch to the shop was a 4 lane. And the first light we came to turned red. First thing that went thru my mind was.......****!!! Anyways he strated revvin his engine up. And if any of you havent heard a lawson exhaust on a maxima....it sounds ****in sweeeeeett!!! So I held my rpm's at 2400 and his was probably about the same. As soon as the light went green we let 'em rip, both of us spun thru thru the red light and smoked 'em a lil bit. By the time we were going 25 I was a car and a half ahead of him, by 55 or so I had him by 4 car lengths and then I hit 85 and was a good 8 or 9 car lengths ahead of him and I jus let off thw gas. He was ****ed off!! So there you go. That's a street race of some slightly modified maximas!!

he needs to take his car to the shop....there is something wrong with it......or he needs to learn to drive his car....its hard to believe you beat him as it is but by nine cars?no way.....the 02 traps in a quarter mile in the mid to high 90 mph range.....so your saying in less than a 1/4 mile you were 9 cars ahead?he should have been ahead by 1 1/2 to cars in the 1/4 atleast....so his car is slow and needs to work,he cant drive,or they made a mistake and put the z motor computer and everything else in yours.....and i doubt it was that one
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or they made a mistake and put the z motor computer and everything else in yours.....and i doubt it was that one
uhhmmmm...actually....


Oh nevermind.
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8 or 9 car lengths ahead of him
Either thats BS or he let off the gas/or has car problems. Do you know the difference in 1/4 mile times that you are talking about? a 9 car distance at 85 equates to a very sizeable 1/4 mile time difference. And frankly all the info we have shows th cars are very close performancewise. Plus he has a few mods which should give the 5th gen a slight advantage.

Im not badmouthing the 6th gen-I like the car but 9 carlengths? you should be out looking for Vettes if you're car is that fast.
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Old 10-31-2003, 07:56 PM
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that's why street races don't prove anything. If an 04 can pull a legitimate 8 or 9 car-lengths on a 2k2 then the 04's would be running 13's stock.
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