Drive by wire throttle nuisance...
#1
Drive by wire throttle nuisance...
Has anyone else noticed that when you lift off the throttle, there's a delay before the RPM's drop? The "timing" of how I shift my 6 speed is different from my other cars which don't have the delay (as they have actual throttle cables). It still takes a few minutes for me to adjust my shifting when I switch cars to be smooth. Wonder why it's like that......
#4
Originally Posted by Redline
Has anyone else noticed that when you lift off the throttle, there's a delay before the RPM's drop? The "timing" of how I shift my 6 speed is different from my other cars which don't have the delay (as they have actual throttle cables). It still takes a few minutes for me to adjust my shifting when I switch cars to be smooth. Wonder why it's like that......
So when you lift your right foot and press the clutch, the rpm holds at whatever it was before you started to shift? Are you talking WFO or just in traffic?
I don't think that drive by wire in and of itself is your problem. I read the 5th generation board some and I don't remember this particular problem. You might try searching there...oh never mind. Was the dealer "unable to duplicate" the problem yet?
#8
My original post wasn't clear enough.
First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.
Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.
My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.
Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.
Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.
My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.
Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
#9
Originally Posted by Redline
My original post wasn't clear enough.
First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.
Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.
My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.
Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.
Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.
My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.
Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
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Originally Posted by Redline
My original post wasn't clear enough.
First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.
Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.
My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.
Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.
Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.
My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.
Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
#12
My 2004 Maxima does the same thing. When you release the throttle (take your foot off the pedal) it is as if there is a .5 - 1 sec delay before the RPMs start to fall.
I have the automatic but it is annoying in traffic when you let off it doesn't let off at the same time. I end up hitting my brakes more than I would like to.
I only have 350km on it. Does it get better after a while, or should I complain now?
I think mine was made in July 2003.
I have the automatic but it is annoying in traffic when you let off it doesn't let off at the same time. I end up hitting my brakes more than I would like to.
I only have 350km on it. Does it get better after a while, or should I complain now?
I think mine was made in July 2003.
#13
Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
My 2004 Maxima does the same thing. When you release the throttle (take your foot off the pedal) it is as if there is a .5 - 1 sec delay before the RPMs start to fall.
I have the automatic but it is annoying in traffic when you let off it doesn't let off at the same time. I end up hitting my brakes more than I would like to.
I only have 350km on it. Does it get better after a while, or should I complain now?
I think mine was made in July 2003.
I have the automatic but it is annoying in traffic when you let off it doesn't let off at the same time. I end up hitting my brakes more than I would like to.
I only have 350km on it. Does it get better after a while, or should I complain now?
I think mine was made in July 2003.
Mike
#14
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
That's really odd ... I have the opposite happen. When I let off the gas, my SE auto trans feels almost like it's gearing down.
#15
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
... I have the opposite happen. When I let off the gas, my SE auto trans feels almost like it's gearing down. That is, it doesn't seem to "coast" as freely as other vehicles I drive.
Mike
Mike
#16
Drive by Wire Nuisance Gone
I complained about the throttle not dropping revs right away when the gas pedal was released. I just did a nice drive in the mountains today at speeds between 90 and 180. So I now have 750km after my 2 hour each way drive.
This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
#17
Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
I complained about the throttle not dropping revs right away when the gas pedal was released. I just did a nice drive in the mountains today at speeds between 90 and 180. So I now have 750km after my 2 hour each way drive.
This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
#19
Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
......I just did a nice drive in the mountains today at speeds between 90 and 180.......This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
#20
Originally Posted by Redline
Ummmm......hopefully, you're not suggesting your drive fixed the problem, since that wouldn't make any sense.
#21
Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
I sounds kind of silly when you put it like that. I am saying that I don't notice the problem any more. And I doubled my mileage on the weekend with my drive. You be the judge.
Stranger things happen ... every day!
Mike
#22
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
You know, it could be something as simple as a little grit in the pedal linkage that was keeping the pedal from returning as quickly as it should ... with a little use, the grit cleared out and now it operates freely. (I know it's drive-by-wire, but the throttle position sensor gets its signals from the position of the *mechanical* accelerator pedal.)
#23
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I've got a 5th gen but there is the thing that has been described here - rpms do not drop for a fraction of a second, even go a little up... But here is what i remember reading in a magazine a while ago (about a 2002 max, again), C&D i think... They described it as "the drive by wire throttle has a mind on its own" or smthing like that and that rpm thing is emission-related setup of the ecu.
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