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Old 01-05-2004, 11:39 AM
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Drive by wire throttle nuisance...

Has anyone else noticed that when you lift off the throttle, there's a delay before the RPM's drop? The "timing" of how I shift my 6 speed is different from my other cars which don't have the delay (as they have actual throttle cables). It still takes a few minutes for me to adjust my shifting when I switch cars to be smooth. Wonder why it's like that......
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Old 01-05-2004, 12:51 PM
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Are you already past the break-in period on the engine? Curious...
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Old 01-05-2004, 02:52 PM
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the 02-03 guys had a hesitation TSB..i would think it was fixed when the 04s came out...
 
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Originally Posted by Redline
Has anyone else noticed that when you lift off the throttle, there's a delay before the RPM's drop? The "timing" of how I shift my 6 speed is different from my other cars which don't have the delay (as they have actual throttle cables). It still takes a few minutes for me to adjust my shifting when I switch cars to be smooth. Wonder why it's like that......
Thankfully no, that would suck heinously. I've driven around just playing with the throttle trying to figure out why I don't like drive by wire. I have 11k miles on a six speed and have nothing negative to say about the wire. What you describe would drive me nuts.

So when you lift your right foot and press the clutch, the rpm holds at whatever it was before you started to shift? Are you talking WFO or just in traffic?

I don't think that drive by wire in and of itself is your problem. I read the 5th generation board some and I don't remember this particular problem. You might try searching there...oh never mind. Was the dealer "unable to duplicate" the problem yet?
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Old 01-05-2004, 03:24 PM
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post ur build dates. If redline has these problems..i would think he is one of the 1st 04s and might have a problem. If not...im
 
Old 01-05-2004, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
post ur build dates. If redline has these problems..i would think he is one of the 1st 04s and might have a problem. If not...im
05/03 823038
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thanx...Redline??? whats the 823038 all about?
 
Old 01-05-2004, 04:45 PM
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My original post wasn't clear enough.

First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.

Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.

My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.

Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
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Originally Posted by Redline
My original post wasn't clear enough.

First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.

Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.

My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.

Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
Mine is a May build too. I still don't have this problem.
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Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
thanx...Redline??? whats the 823038 all about?
92 SE-R 02 SE, I think he's referring to the last six digits of his VIN... That seems to be the format anyway...
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Redline
My original post wasn't clear enough.

First, this is not the 5th gen hesitation. Second, I should have said that, upon lifting off the throttle, the RPMs don't drop immediately -- rather, they hold for about 1 second and then drop. It's not my imagination and it's repeatable, reagrdless of what RPM you lift at.

Imagine your throttle cable in need of lubrication -- I guess that's the best analogy I could make.

My car was built in May and I bought it used with 8k miles. If this behavior is unique to mine, might be time for it's first trip to the dealer.

Any other 6th gen 6 speed owners care to pipe up?
OK..i see what your saying now. Thats odd. Maybe an adjustment needs to be made. Goto the dealer and let them take a look..
 
Old 01-08-2004, 06:52 PM
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My 2004 Maxima does the same thing. When you release the throttle (take your foot off the pedal) it is as if there is a .5 - 1 sec delay before the RPMs start to fall.

I have the automatic but it is annoying in traffic when you let off it doesn't let off at the same time. I end up hitting my brakes more than I would like to.

I only have 350km on it. Does it get better after a while, or should I complain now?

I think mine was made in July 2003.
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Old 01-08-2004, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
My 2004 Maxima does the same thing. When you release the throttle (take your foot off the pedal) it is as if there is a .5 - 1 sec delay before the RPMs start to fall.

I have the automatic but it is annoying in traffic when you let off it doesn't let off at the same time. I end up hitting my brakes more than I would like to.

I only have 350km on it. Does it get better after a while, or should I complain now?

I think mine was made in July 2003.
That's really odd ... I have the opposite happen. When I let off the gas, my SE auto trans feels almost like it's gearing down. That is, it doesn't seem to "coast" as freely as other vehicles I drive. But at 21.7mpg average around town and 28-30mpg on the highway, I know it's doing fine and I'm not dragging an anchor or anything.

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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
That's really odd ... I have the opposite happen. When I let off the gas, my SE auto trans feels almost like it's gearing down.
That's pretty much what my MAX does as well...(of course, I have the 5AT) I let off the gas or stop accelerating and it down shifts (or gears down) because the computer tells the tranny it doesn't need a higher gear to travel that speed if I'm not pressing the gas. I've gotten use to it. My wife mentioned something about it in the rentals we had, but I had to explain it to her. Now she doesn't complain about it anymore...SHE JUST ENJOYS DRIVING THE HECK OUT OF IT! lol
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Old 01-09-2004, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
... I have the opposite happen. When I let off the gas, my SE auto trans feels almost like it's gearing down. That is, it doesn't seem to "coast" as freely as other vehicles I drive.
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Same is true of my SE.
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Old 01-10-2004, 04:44 PM
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Drive by Wire Nuisance Gone

I complained about the throttle not dropping revs right away when the gas pedal was released. I just did a nice drive in the mountains today at speeds between 90 and 180. So I now have 750km after my 2 hour each way drive.

This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
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Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
I complained about the throttle not dropping revs right away when the gas pedal was released. I just did a nice drive in the mountains today at speeds between 90 and 180. So I now have 750km after my 2 hour each way drive.

This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
WHEW!!! mxp1l0t, you had me thinking you were doing 180 MPH!!! But I remembered that you were in Canada... Don't scare us like that!!! lol
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Old 01-11-2004, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hofb99
WHEW!!! mxp1l0t, you had me thinking you were doing 180 MPH!!!
Yeah, it's not like the old days when I used to "bury the needle". This bad max has a speedo that reads to 260.
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
......I just did a nice drive in the mountains today at speeds between 90 and 180.......This problem is now gone. The revs drop immediately as expected.
Ummmm......hopefully, you're not suggesting your drive fixed the problem, since that wouldn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by Redline
Ummmm......hopefully, you're not suggesting your drive fixed the problem, since that wouldn't make any sense.
I sounds kind of silly when you put it like that. I am saying that I don't notice the problem any more. And I doubled my mileage on the weekend with my drive. You be the judge.
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Originally Posted by mxp1l0t
I sounds kind of silly when you put it like that. I am saying that I don't notice the problem any more. And I doubled my mileage on the weekend with my drive. You be the judge.
You know, it could be something as simple as a little grit in the pedal linkage that was keeping the pedal from returning as quickly as it should ... with a little use, the grit cleared out and now it operates freely. (I know it's drive-by-wire, but the throttle position sensor gets its signals from the position of the *mechanical* accelerator pedal.)

Stranger things happen ... every day!

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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
You know, it could be something as simple as a little grit in the pedal linkage that was keeping the pedal from returning as quickly as it should ... with a little use, the grit cleared out and now it operates freely. (I know it's drive-by-wire, but the throttle position sensor gets its signals from the position of the *mechanical* accelerator pedal.)
That's a good point. I'll plan to go check out the pedal and see if a little lubrication is in order.
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Old 01-14-2004, 11:09 PM
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I've got a 5th gen but there is the thing that has been described here - rpms do not drop for a fraction of a second, even go a little up... But here is what i remember reading in a magazine a while ago (about a 2002 max, again), C&D i think... They described it as "the drive by wire throttle has a mind on its own" or smthing like that and that rpm thing is emission-related setup of the ecu.
 
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