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I bought my 2004 Maxima a week ago (3/11), and on Monday (3/15), my engine started smoking and all my oil drained out. My first new car, and it breaks down after only 300 miles! Anyways, I towed it back to Nissan, and they're replacing the entire engine and transmission for me. They apologized and said that it's an extreme rarity. I'm a huge supporter of Nissan, and despite this small setback, I still love my Maxima. Has a silmilar problem happened to anyone else?
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Did someone leave the crankcase drainplug out? Engines are Nissan's forte. I have never heard of any such failure in a Maxima engine, and I have driven no other car but Maxima for nineteen years. Drove one 206,000 miles, and the engine was still great when I let it go.
I drive gently for the first one or two thousand miles, then let 'em rip.
I would be careful to check EVERYTHING out very closely after they replace your engine and transmission. This is major surgery, and I would be surprised if they got it right first time. Be very careful to check the fluid levels frequently, especially the first few thousand miles. This should be done with any new car.
Also, in a case like this, they should have a 'loaner' for your exclusive use while they work on your car. And the loaner should be better than a Sentra.
I drive gently for the first one or two thousand miles, then let 'em rip.
I would be careful to check EVERYTHING out very closely after they replace your engine and transmission. This is major surgery, and I would be surprised if they got it right first time. Be very careful to check the fluid levels frequently, especially the first few thousand miles. This should be done with any new car.
Also, in a case like this, they should have a 'loaner' for your exclusive use while they work on your car. And the loaner should be better than a Sentra.
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Originally Posted by Edify11
The dealer told me that Nissan doesn't provide loaners.
so if my car breaks down and the dealer needs like a week to get it fixed, then
I'm being carless????
I used to have 99 honda prelude, and honda dealer said they provide
loaner car if the warranty work takes more than 24 hours. i can't
believe nissan doesn't provide loaners...someone please confirm this...
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LOL. I understand your skepticism 04EliteSE. I'm not out to prove myself, but being this as a highly unlikely and therefore unbelievable event, I'll post a service invoice or something when I get my car back. Should get it back sometime next week. No offense taken, but you owe me a beer for my troubles...
Ummm does anyone see something wrong with this. You just bought the car, you can refuse to take it after this. I forgot what it is called, but since it was bought new if there are any major problems with it, i.e. engine dying within 5 days, you can tell them you don't want the car you want your money back or they give you a loaner. Dont take any other answers. You just spent 30g's on it, sorry if this isnt alot of money to you but on a brand new car i wouldnt accept anything but what i paid for, one of those isnt an engine falling apart.
just my opinion
brandon
just my opinion
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Originally Posted by Edify11
LOL. I understand your skepticism 04EliteSE. I'm not out to prove myself, but being this as a highly unlikely and therefore unbelievable event, I'll post a service invoice or something when I get my car back. Should get it back sometime next week. No offense taken, but you owe me a beer for my troubles...
I think Nissan owes you free beer for life.
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Originally Posted by chris.tremblay
I just picked my 04 up yesterday, do not scare me :-)
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Ok, I'm about to shoot myself! No, I haven't got my car back yet. Surely enough, the dealer replaced the engine and the tranny, but they realized the catalytic is out. Turns out the car's been misfiring the whole time. Anyhow, I just got back from the dealer to check on the status and they were on the phone with Nissan engineers for quite some time. They still can't figure out what's wrong with it. An engineer from Nissan is stopping by tomorrow to take a look. The mechanic that's been working on my car says that newer Nissans have been having trouble. It seems that ever since the production moved to Smyrna, things haven't been the same. They've already replaced numerous engines on the new Altimas, which causes me some worry. Anyhow, here's the timeline of my ordeal:
1) 3/11 New Maxima purchased
2) 3/15 Engine smokes and oil drains, towed to dealer
3) 3/16 New engine and tranny ordered
4) 3/19 Engine received, wait for transmission
5) 3/23 Transmission received
6) 3/25 Engine won't start, malfunction with a sensor on the flywheel, flywheel ordered
7) 3/29 Flywheel received, car starts, but no power on a test run, catalytic ordered
8) 4/1 Catalytic installed, engine still misfiring, testing to be done
I WANT MY CAR!!!! I already waited 1 1/2 months to get the car I wanted (still couldn't get the HLSD). I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for listening to all my *****ing.
Here's pics of my car before the surgery: http://www.cardomain.com/id/edify11
1) 3/11 New Maxima purchased
2) 3/15 Engine smokes and oil drains, towed to dealer
3) 3/16 New engine and tranny ordered
4) 3/19 Engine received, wait for transmission
5) 3/23 Transmission received
6) 3/25 Engine won't start, malfunction with a sensor on the flywheel, flywheel ordered
7) 3/29 Flywheel received, car starts, but no power on a test run, catalytic ordered
8) 4/1 Catalytic installed, engine still misfiring, testing to be done
I WANT MY CAR!!!! I already waited 1 1/2 months to get the car I wanted (still couldn't get the HLSD). I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for listening to all my *****ing.
Here's pics of my car before the surgery: http://www.cardomain.com/id/edify11
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Originally Posted by Edify11
Ok, I'm about to shoot myself! No, I haven't got my car back yet. Surely enough, the dealer replaced the engine and the tranny, but they realized the catalytic is out. Turns out the car's been misfiring the whole time. Anyhow, I just got back from the dealer to check on the status and they were on the phone with Nissan engineers for quite some time. They still can't figure out what's wrong with it. An engineer from Nissan is stopping by tomorrow to take a look. The mechanic that's been working on my car says that newer Nissans have been having trouble. It seems that ever since the production moved to Smyrna, things haven't been the same. They've already replaced numerous engines on the new Altimas, which causes me some worry. Anyhow, here's the timeline of my ordeal:
1) 3/11 New Maxima purchased
2) 3/15 Engine smokes and oil drains, towed to dealer
3) 3/16 New engine and tranny ordered
4) 3/19 Engine received, wait for transmission
5) 3/23 Transmission received
6) 3/25 Engine won't start, malfunction with a sensor on the flywheel, flywheel ordered
7) 3/29 Flywheel received, car starts, but no power on a test run, catalytic ordered
8) 4/1 Catalytic installed, engine still misfiring, testing to be done
I WANT MY CAR!!!! I already waited 1 1/2 months to get the car I wanted (still couldn't get the HLSD). I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for listening to all my *****ing.
Here's pics of my car before the surgery: http://www.cardomain.com/id/edify11
1) 3/11 New Maxima purchased
2) 3/15 Engine smokes and oil drains, towed to dealer
3) 3/16 New engine and tranny ordered
4) 3/19 Engine received, wait for transmission
5) 3/23 Transmission received
6) 3/25 Engine won't start, malfunction with a sensor on the flywheel, flywheel ordered
7) 3/29 Flywheel received, car starts, but no power on a test run, catalytic ordered
8) 4/1 Catalytic installed, engine still misfiring, testing to be done
I WANT MY CAR!!!! I already waited 1 1/2 months to get the car I wanted (still couldn't get the HLSD). I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for listening to all my *****ing.
Here's pics of my car before the surgery: http://www.cardomain.com/id/edify11
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Originally Posted by Edify11
Ok, I'm about to shoot myself! No, I haven't got my car back yet. Surely enough, the dealer replaced the engine and the tranny, but they realized the catalytic is out. Turns out the car's been misfiring the whole time. Anyhow, I just got back from the dealer to check on the status and they were on the phone with Nissan engineers for quite some time. They still can't figure out what's wrong with it. An engineer from Nissan is stopping by tomorrow to take a look. The mechanic that's been working on my car says that newer Nissans have been having trouble. It seems that ever since the production moved to Smyrna, things haven't been the same. They've already replaced numerous engines on the new Altimas, which causes me some worry. Anyhow, here's the timeline of my ordeal:
1) 3/11 New Maxima purchased
2) 3/15 Engine smokes and oil drains, towed to dealer
3) 3/16 New engine and tranny ordered
4) 3/19 Engine received, wait for transmission
5) 3/23 Transmission received
6) 3/25 Engine won't start, malfunction with a sensor on the flywheel, flywheel ordered
7) 3/29 Flywheel received, car starts, but no power on a test run, catalytic ordered
8) 4/1 Catalytic installed, engine still misfiring, testing to be done
I WANT MY CAR!!!! I already waited 1 1/2 months to get the car I wanted (still couldn't get the HLSD). I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for listening to all my *****ing.
Here's pics of my car before the surgery: http://www.cardomain.com/id/edify11
1) 3/11 New Maxima purchased
2) 3/15 Engine smokes and oil drains, towed to dealer
3) 3/16 New engine and tranny ordered
4) 3/19 Engine received, wait for transmission
5) 3/23 Transmission received
6) 3/25 Engine won't start, malfunction with a sensor on the flywheel, flywheel ordered
7) 3/29 Flywheel received, car starts, but no power on a test run, catalytic ordered
8) 4/1 Catalytic installed, engine still misfiring, testing to be done
I WANT MY CAR!!!! I already waited 1 1/2 months to get the car I wanted (still couldn't get the HLSD). I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for listening to all my *****ing.
Here's pics of my car before the surgery: http://www.cardomain.com/id/edify11
Look man after they said they had to bring a nissan engineer from Nissan I right then wouldve demanded a different new car and add that HLSD for my troubles too. If you build the urge itll come. Especially after their own techs reinstalled everything. This car maybe a jinx for you. Get a different new one. And dont forget about that HLSD for the troubles and down time theyve caused you
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Just spoke to Nissan. I'm in the process of trying to get a new vehicle. I'm gonna ask that they throw in HLSD and navigation system as well. It's been said that patience is a virtue... I've been too patient on this one.
yeah man, you really have been beyond patient with this one. school teachers are more patient then you. i wouldnt leave that dealer until you get THE car you want, with the HLSD. good luck man!
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Originally Posted by ChillWill2000
Defi9nitly Lawyer time or as the mafia says "time to lawyer up"
pitiful-arent these nissans being made in the US?
pitiful-arent these nissans being made in the US?
Yes...they're made in the U.S., along with Altimas, Camry's, Accords, TL's, etc., etc.
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Originally Posted by DansMax3
Yes...they're made in the U.S., along with Altimas, Camry's, Accords, TL's, etc., etc.
This is proof that American factory workers could care less about putting parts together properly. Does anyone remember a 3gen, 4th gen or 5th gen having to replace the engine within 300 miles ? Do you know why you do not remember, because it never happened!
It is very ironic that after WWII , Deming's 14 points was implemented ;a Quality Assurance program for the Japanese (which most factories in Japan still follow today , but Americans do not follow this concept). Here is what it looks like.
Deming's 14 points
by Phil Cohen
W Edwards Deming was an American statistician who was credited with the rise of Japan as a manufacturing nation, and with the invention of Total Quality Management (TQM). Deming went to Japan just after the War to help set up a census of the Japanese population. While he was there, he taught 'statistical process control' to Japanese engineers - a set of techniques which allowed them to manufacture high-quality goods without expensive machinery. In 1960 he was awarded a medal by the Japanese Emperor for his services to that country's industry.
Deming returned to the US and spent some years in obscurity before the publication of his book "Out of the crisis" in 1982. In this book, Deming set out 14 points which, if applied to US manufacturing industry, would he believed, save the US from industrial doom at the hands of the Japanese.
Although Deming does not use the term Total Quality Management in his book, it is credited with launching the movement. Most of the central ideas of TQM are contained in "Out of the crisis".
The 14 points seem at first sight to be a rag-bag of radical ideas, but the key to understanding a number of them lies in Deming's thoughts about variation. Variation was seen by Deming as the disease that threatened US manufacturing. The more variation - in the length of parts supposed to be uniform, in delivery times, in prices, in work practices - the more waste, he reasoned.
From this premise, he set out his 14 points for management, which we have paraphrased here:
1."Create constancy of purpose towards improvement". Replace short-term reaction with long-term planning.
2."Adopt the new philosophy". The implication is that management should actually adopt his philosophy, rather than merely expect the workforce to do so.
3."Cease dependence on inspection". If variation is reduced, there is no need to inspect manufactured items for defects, because there won't be any.
4."Move towards a single supplier for any one item." Multiple suppliers mean variation between feedstocks.
5."Improve constantly and forever". Constantly strive to reduce variation.
6."Institute training on the job". If people are inadequately trained, they will not all work the same way, and this will introduce variation.
7."Institute leadership". Deming makes a distinction between leadership and mere supervision. The latter is quota- and target-based.
8."Drive out fear". Deming sees management by fear as counter- productive in the long term, because it prevents workers from acting in the organisation's best interests.
9."Break down barriers between departments". Another idea central to TQM is the concept of the 'internal customer', that each department serves not the management, but the other departments that use its outputs.
10."Eliminate slogans". Another central TQM idea is that it's not people who make most mistakes - it's the process they are working within. Harassing the workforce without improving the processes they use is counter-productive.
11."Eliminate management by objectives". Deming saw production targets as encouraging the delivery of poor-quality goods.
12."Remove barriers to pride of workmanship". Many of the other problems outlined reduce worker satisfaction.
13."Institute education and self-improvement".
14."The transformation is everyone's job".
"Out of the crisis" is over 500 pages long, and it is not possible to do full justice to it in a 600 word article. If the above points interest you, we recommend the book for further information.
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Originally Posted by ChillWill2000
Defi9nitly Lawyer time or as the mafia says "time to lawyer up"
pitiful-arent these nissans being made in the US?
pitiful-arent these nissans being made in the US?
Here is something to make you guys smile:
An Old Joke on American Management
The author of this story is unknown.
An American company and a Japanese Company decided to engage in a boat race. Both teams practiced hard and long to reach their peak performance levels. On the big day they felt ready. The Japanese won by a mile. The American team was discouraged by the loss. Morale sagged. Corporate management decided that the reason for the crushing defeat had to be found, so a
consulting firm was hired to investigate the problem and recommend corrective action.
The consultant's finding: The Japanese team had eight people rowing and one person steering; the American team had one person rowing and eight people steering.
After a year of study and millions spent analyzing the problem, the consultant firm concluded that too many people were steering and not enough were rowing on the American team.
So as race day neared again the following year, the American team's management structure was completely reorganized.
The new structure: four steering managers, three area steering managers, and a new performance review system for the person rowing the boat to provide a work incentive.
The next year, the Japanese won by TWO miles!!! Humiliated, the American corporation laid off the rower for poor performance and gave the managers a bonus for discovering the problem.
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Originally Posted by maxdis1
This is proof that American factory workers could care less about putting parts together properly. Does anyone remember a 3gen, 4th gen or 5th gen having to replace the engine within 300 miles ? Do you know why you do not remember, because it never happened!
Deming's 14 points
by Phil Cohen
W Edwards Deming was an American statistician who was credited with the rise of Japan as a manufacturing nation, and with the invention of Total Quality Management (TQM). Deming went to Japan just after the War to help set up a census of the Japanese population. While he was there, he taught 'statistical process control' to Japanese engineers - a set of techniques which allowed them to manufacture high-quality goods without expensive machinery. In 1960 he was awarded a medal by the Japanese Emperor for his services to that country's industry.
Deming returned to the US and spent some years in obscurity before the publication of his book "Out of the crisis" in 1982. In this book, Deming set out 14 points which, if applied to US manufacturing industry, would he believed, save the US from industrial doom at the hands of the Japanese.
Although Deming does not use the term Total Quality Management in his book, it is credited with launching the movement. Most of the central ideas of TQM are contained in "Out of the crisis".
The 14 points seem at first sight to be a rag-bag of radical ideas, but the key to understanding a number of them lies in Deming's thoughts about variation. Variation was seen by Deming as the disease that threatened US manufacturing. The more variation - in the length of parts supposed to be uniform, in delivery times, in prices, in work practices - the more waste, he reasoned.
From this premise, he set out his 14 points for management, which we have paraphrased here:
1."Create constancy of purpose towards improvement". Replace short-term reaction with long-term planning.
2."Adopt the new philosophy". The implication is that management should actually adopt his philosophy, rather than merely expect the workforce to do so.
3."Cease dependence on inspection". If variation is reduced, there is no need to inspect manufactured items for defects, because there won't be any.
4."Move towards a single supplier for any one item." Multiple suppliers mean variation between feedstocks.
5."Improve constantly and forever". Constantly strive to reduce variation.
6."Institute training on the job". If people are inadequately trained, they will not all work the same way, and this will introduce variation.
7."Institute leadership". Deming makes a distinction between leadership and mere supervision. The latter is quota- and target-based.
8."Drive out fear". Deming sees management by fear as counter- productive in the long term, because it prevents workers from acting in the organisation's best interests.
9."Break down barriers between departments". Another idea central to TQM is the concept of the 'internal customer', that each department serves not the management, but the other departments that use its outputs.
10."Eliminate slogans". Another central TQM idea is that it's not people who make most mistakes - it's the process they are working within. Harassing the workforce without improving the processes they use is counter-productive.
11."Eliminate management by objectives". Deming saw production targets as encouraging the delivery of poor-quality goods.
12."Remove barriers to pride of workmanship". Many of the other problems outlined reduce worker satisfaction.
13."Institute education and self-improvement".
14."The transformation is everyone's job".
"Out of the crisis" is over 500 pages long, and it is not possible to do full justice to it in a 600 word article. If the above points interest you, we recommend the book for further information.
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This is one of a series of articles written by Phil Cohen and Onno van Ewyk, HCi Consulting. Most of the articles were also published in the Australian Financial Review. This article may be reproduced only with the permission of HCi Consulting (email HCi ). Copyright HCi, 1993-1998.
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It is very ironic that after WWII , Deming's 14 points was implemented ;a Quality Assurance program for the Japanese (which most factories in Japan still follow today , but Americans do not follow this concept). Here is what it looks like.
Deming's 14 points
by Phil Cohen
W Edwards Deming was an American statistician who was credited with the rise of Japan as a manufacturing nation, and with the invention of Total Quality Management (TQM). Deming went to Japan just after the War to help set up a census of the Japanese population. While he was there, he taught 'statistical process control' to Japanese engineers - a set of techniques which allowed them to manufacture high-quality goods without expensive machinery. In 1960 he was awarded a medal by the Japanese Emperor for his services to that country's industry.
Deming returned to the US and spent some years in obscurity before the publication of his book "Out of the crisis" in 1982. In this book, Deming set out 14 points which, if applied to US manufacturing industry, would he believed, save the US from industrial doom at the hands of the Japanese.
Although Deming does not use the term Total Quality Management in his book, it is credited with launching the movement. Most of the central ideas of TQM are contained in "Out of the crisis".
The 14 points seem at first sight to be a rag-bag of radical ideas, but the key to understanding a number of them lies in Deming's thoughts about variation. Variation was seen by Deming as the disease that threatened US manufacturing. The more variation - in the length of parts supposed to be uniform, in delivery times, in prices, in work practices - the more waste, he reasoned.
From this premise, he set out his 14 points for management, which we have paraphrased here:
1."Create constancy of purpose towards improvement". Replace short-term reaction with long-term planning.
2."Adopt the new philosophy". The implication is that management should actually adopt his philosophy, rather than merely expect the workforce to do so.
3."Cease dependence on inspection". If variation is reduced, there is no need to inspect manufactured items for defects, because there won't be any.
4."Move towards a single supplier for any one item." Multiple suppliers mean variation between feedstocks.
5."Improve constantly and forever". Constantly strive to reduce variation.
6."Institute training on the job". If people are inadequately trained, they will not all work the same way, and this will introduce variation.
7."Institute leadership". Deming makes a distinction between leadership and mere supervision. The latter is quota- and target-based.
8."Drive out fear". Deming sees management by fear as counter- productive in the long term, because it prevents workers from acting in the organisation's best interests.
9."Break down barriers between departments". Another idea central to TQM is the concept of the 'internal customer', that each department serves not the management, but the other departments that use its outputs.
10."Eliminate slogans". Another central TQM idea is that it's not people who make most mistakes - it's the process they are working within. Harassing the workforce without improving the processes they use is counter-productive.
11."Eliminate management by objectives". Deming saw production targets as encouraging the delivery of poor-quality goods.
12."Remove barriers to pride of workmanship". Many of the other problems outlined reduce worker satisfaction.
13."Institute education and self-improvement".
14."The transformation is everyone's job".
"Out of the crisis" is over 500 pages long, and it is not possible to do full justice to it in a 600 word article. If the above points interest you, we recommend the book for further information.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is one of a series of articles written by Phil Cohen and Onno van Ewyk, HCi Consulting. Most of the articles were also published in the Australian Financial Review. This article may be reproduced only with the permission of HCi Consulting (email HCi ). Copyright HCi, 1993-1998.
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Ah, ok. I think my point was missed.
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Nissan finally decided to give me a new car. Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of 6 speeds in the area. I also asked that they throw in a navigation system for my troubles. Looks like I'll have to wait even longer. Looks like the production of 6 speeds are done in intervals and the next batch of 6 speeds will be mid June. So if I special order one, it'll take even longer. What should I do? I've already waited a month, should I just wait it out to get exactly what I want? By the way my "old" Maxima is still at the dealer. They still haven't been able to fix it. Nissan provided me with a rental, so I'm driving around in a new Volvo S40. One more thing. Should I get smoke or silver? Is smoke harder to maintain?
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Originally Posted by Edify11
Nissan finally decided to give me a new car. Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of 6 speeds in the area. I also asked that they throw in a navigation system for my troubles. Looks like I'll have to wait even longer. Looks like the production of 6 speeds are done in intervals and the next batch of 6 speeds will be mid June. So if I special order one, it'll take even longer. What should I do? I've already waited a month, should I just wait it out to get exactly what I want? By the way my "old" Maxima is still at the dealer. They still haven't been able to fix it. Nissan provided me with a rental, so I'm driving around in a new Volvo S40. One more thing. Should I get smoke or silver? Is smoke harder to maintain?
I am very happy that you are getting a new Car! 
If you have other means of transportation, then you should wait to get the car exactly like you wanted to be, i.e, 6_Speed.
I wish you good luck .
P.S You should feel proud that you did not let yourself get seam rolled by any corporation.
If you have other means of transportation, then you should wait to get the car exactly like you wanted to be, i.e, 6_Speed.I wish you good luck .
P.S You should feel proud that you did not let yourself get seam rolled by any corporation.
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[QUOTE=Edify11]Nissan finally decided to give me a new car. Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of 6 speeds in the area. I also asked that they throw in a navigation system for my troubles. Looks like I'll have to wait even longer. Looks like the production of 6 speeds are done in intervals and the next batch of 6 speeds will be mid June. So if I special order one, it'll take even longer. What should I do? I've already waited a month, should I just wait it out to get exactly what I want? By the way my "old" Maxima is still at the dealer. They still haven't been able to fix it. Nissan provided me with a rental, so I'm driving around in a new Volvo S40. One more thing. Should I get smoke or silver? Is smoke harder to maintain?
The darker the color "usually" the more maintenance but not nearly as much as say black. I just bought a 04 Max SL with the Metalic Smoke color and love it! At the dealership i brought a couple of friends with me and "Metalic Smoke" was the color of choice from all of us.
SLB
The darker the color "usually" the more maintenance but not nearly as much as say black. I just bought a 04 Max SL with the Metalic Smoke color and love it! At the dealership i brought a couple of friends with me and "Metalic Smoke" was the color of choice from all of us.
SLB
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I was leaning towards the smoke as well. Unfortunately, none with a 6 spd. If I special order, looks like I'll be waiting till August. I really don't want to wait that long. Looks like I'll be getting a duplicate (Silver/Black, 6 spd, DPP, Sunroof) of my previous 2K4 Maxima in a couple of weeks. It's coming from Chicago. Damn, I really wanted navigaton. It's not that I need it, I just can't stand that orange screen!
Originally Posted by Edify11
Nissan finally decided to give me a new car. Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of 6 speeds in the area. I also asked that they throw in a navigation system for my troubles. Looks like I'll have to wait even longer. Looks like the production of 6 speeds are done in intervals and the next batch of 6 speeds will be mid June. So if I special order one, it'll take even longer. What should I do? I've already waited a month, should I just wait it out to get exactly what I want? By the way my "old" Maxima is still at the dealer. They still haven't been able to fix it. Nissan provided me with a rental, so I'm driving around in a new Volvo S40. One more thing. Should I get smoke or silver? Is smoke harder to maintain?
The darker the color "usually" the more maintenance but not nearly as much as say black. I just bought a 04 Max SL with the Metalic Smoke color and love it! At the dealership i brought a couple of friends with me and "Metalic Smoke" was the color of choice from all of us.
SLB
The darker the color "usually" the more maintenance but not nearly as much as say black. I just bought a 04 Max SL with the Metalic Smoke color and love it! At the dealership i brought a couple of friends with me and "Metalic Smoke" was the color of choice from all of us.
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dude you should have gotten a new car from them, by the way my wife was driving the max the other day and the engine just died on her at a stop light and took 5 minutes before it would restart, and no the engine was not cold. called the dealership and they told me that they would give us a loaner until they got the problem fixed. I went a head and called Nissan USA as well to see if anyone else is having the same problem and according to them there have only been 2 complaints brought to their attention. So if anyoe else has had this problem please let me know what fixed it so I can get it done. Thanx
