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Old 08-05-2004, 09:05 PM
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Cutting Out / New Engine (Long Block)

I am a new member. I tried to search on this subject but it won't allow me. Any ideas why I can't search?
Anyway, I have a 2004 Maxima SE, 6 speed, bought May 21, 2600 miles on it. About 2 weeks ago I noticed a cutting out or hesitation between idle and 4000 rpm under light or medium throttle. When you floor it it runs fine. Tonight I noticed it again except this time the service engine soon light came on intermittently. Planning on taking it to the dealer tomorrow if they have time to look at it. Has any one else had this problem or heard anything about it? Thanks.
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Hi and welcome to the club.

I don't recall reading any posts RE: complaints of cutting out like you describe. Ggood luck at the dealer and let us know what they come up with.

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Update.
The dealer said it was error code PO300 which is multiple cylinder misfire. They got a recommendation from the corporate technical specialist. Replace 3 of the 6 fuel injectors. The 3 in the front of course. Well it made it to LA and back with no problems about 600 mi.
The next day it started cutting out even worse and the service engine light would alternate between flashing and on solid.
Back to the dealer on 8-18-04. They are consulting the Nissan technical specialist again and running some leak down tests.
They have had the car for over a week now with no new information.
I hope and fear, we are on the way to lemon law. With all the other posts it may be the best thing to happen.
So now I have an 05 Altima 4cyl to drive around, free loaner. Pretty good power it seems to burn them off too easily but I hate automatics.
Next car may be an accord or back to dependable Toyota (I had 3)
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i would guess their is an electrical problem from the injectors back to the ECU or electrical problem from the spark plugs back to the ECU. Those service techs are not too smart. They should have found out what cylinder was misfiring, swap the injectors then see if the code changed, then if it remained the same, swap the plugs. If its still the same, its an electrical problem.

This is a very rear occasion, i have never heard it ever happening to a brand new maxima before. Ither or you have only to gain from this situation. They will and must compensate you on this issue.

That inconvience must suck, and driving an Auto too I would explain to the service manager that you don't want to drive an Auto Altima.. they are incoviencing you.
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I think it is electrical also. But they are the dealer and are talking to engineers locally and in Japan. I must give them some time to try to fix it. We really like the car. I was told I can start the major complaint (lemon law) by calling 1-800-nissan1. I may do that after talking to the service manajor again on Mon/Tues.
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Sevice manager calls this morning saying the tests are in and they want to replace the motor. They are ordering a long block which should be here Thursday and 2 days of swapping it out. The limited details are the current engine has low compression or a high leak down rate.
I have called Nissan1 to see if they will buy the car back.
I just can't believe it, we baby the car. The oil was changed at 1200 miles and the break in routine (do not exceed 4,000 rpm for 1,400 miles) was followed 99%.
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Parts and Service director returns my call for a status. They replaced the engine and drove it down the street. Again the car started to hesitate and the SES light came on. They are having an ECU shipped up from LA. Maybe it will be fixed and I will get the car back on Thursday or Friday. I believe this is going to be the last chance for Nissan.
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I feel your pain, but with any car, honda, toyota, etc., the law of odds says that a percentage of them will have issues. For example one of my employees just had the engine rebuilt in his Honda Odyssey after only 25K miles on it. The dealer said it was the first one they had to rebulid under warranty, i.e., all they others had a lot of miles on them.

So I can understand why you might not want to deal with this specific vehicle, but it isn't (necessarily) an indication of bad quality in general.
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Engage is right. Crap can happen with any car. 25k miles on an Odyssey engine is either a freak occurance, or the guy was an auto-xer 25k miles on a mitsubishi engine, however, is worthy of the guiness book of records.

I was going to guess - just a guess mind you - that replacing the engine wasn't going to be the problem. I guess I was right. Hopefully the ECU will sort you out. Afterall if they replace all the main parts, eventually something will fix it.

It must be infuriating with a low mile babied car to have such problems, but hopefully you can get it sorted out!
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I am waiting to see what happens. I will now have major concerns wheather they put everything back together correctly. Things were torqued and all connectors are tight. My original concern was that the posted items would occur: shimmy disc warpage etc. Now I am expecting them later.
This is the worst car buying experience I have ever had (I have bought 6 cars and trucks).
The saga started when I tried to order my car in Feb, after 1.5 months I called and the order was screwed up. I re-ordered and after another 1.5 months it was screwed up again. I went to a different dealer and they found me a white one that was close. The plastic on the gear shifter (reverse lockout) was broken and it had 200 miles on it. They found my current car in red that I bought and now look what problems I have. So yes this sucks and I am tired of it. I have been extremely patient but it is now coming to an end.
I also expect paint chips where they removed the hood and greasey finger prints wherever on the car. I will report when I get the next update.
So if they change the ECU and the problem still exists it is time for a refund period.
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Stephanie, wish I had found this post earlier. I'm currently driving my second 2004 Nissan Maxima. My first one died on me 4 days after purchase. The dealer had it for over a month trying to fix it. Had Corporate Nissan engineers to take a look at it and it still wasn't fixed. Put in a new engine and transmission and t was still misfiring. Had to go through Nissan arbitration to have them give me a new car. Don't give up until they give you a new car. I'll help you in any way I can. If you want the VIN from my first Maxima, let me know. Maybe it'll help you along on your fight. There's more details of my ordeal on my Cardomain. Here's the link for the original thread when my Maxima first broke down. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=295270
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I have to go with the people that say that this is a freak occurance. Sure, these new Maximas have a couple small annoyances, like a rattle or two and a shimmy in the steering... but major problems like you describe are extremely rare. I assume you've been given a loaner car from your dealer while they try to fix things... I'm sure they're doing everything they can. However, cars are very complex mechanical devices, and with tens of thousands sold, a couple are likely to have had that one in 50,000 chance of something major being wrong.

Now, if they Nissan was giving you the run around, telling you there is no problem or there's nothing they can do, then I would be upset. But it doesn't sound like that's the case. I mean, they replaced the entire engine, for heaven's sake! That's some pretty good service.

I hope everything gets resolved to your satisfaction, whatever that may mean.

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9-9-04 Update
Dealer calls. The new ECU is installed. They drove about 20 miles with no problems. I have decided to take the car back and cross my fingers. I have to break the new engine in <4,000rpm for 1,400 miles. I am hitting them up for extended warranty for free. I have not got an answer yet. Hopefully this will be the last post on this matter.
Thanx for the input.
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stephanie - Yours and Edify11's are the only two instances of this particular problem I have seen here in sixteen months. Of course, most of the 131,700 owners of '04 Maximas are not posting here, so there are probably other occurances.

If the dealer/Nissan will grant the extended warranty, I would feel good about giving this car another chance. Emphasize to both the dealer, and any other Nissan rep with whom you may have contact, with that you have been greatly inconvenienced, have suffered anxiety and frustration, and have not had the good driving experience from this car that the buyer of a Maxima has every right to expect.

The least you deserve after what you have been through is an extended warranty at no cost to you. If the dealer balks, tell him you want to be put in contact with a regional Nissan representative. Be calm, rational and very persistent.

I am among many here who have had absolutely no problems with my '04. It makes me sad to see others have their dream car give major headaches.

As to the problems trying to special order your '04 Maxima, that does not surprise me. I have the feeling most of the problems are caused by the person at the dealership. There is either carelessness in placing the order, a misunderstanding as to exactly what the customer wants, or a lack of knowledge as to exactly what can/can't be ordered.

It seems MOST of the folks on this board who special ordered their '04 Maxima had problems. Many had to reorder, while others waited for months for their Maxima.

Please do let us know how this turns out.
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9-9-04 Update.
Pick up the car and in less than 10 miles SES light is on again. Take back to the dealer.

9-10-04
They send the car home with the chief mechanic and a new air fuel sensor (or something like that). He changes it, drives it into work and the SES is back on again. Spoke to the sevice director and they are sorry and embarressed and unofficially given up. They want me to get my money back too.

9-11-04
Go into the dealer to discuss my options with the Sale manager. He says it is out of his hands. Corporate Nissan has to issue the check and then I go back in to negotiate a deal on an o5, which he will give me a good deal but can not throw in the Nav for free. Get the lemon law paper work out of my car. (Dam it is a beautiful car). I have not seen it for 3.5 weeks and it has been in the shop for over 30 days now.
We went to Acura and Volvo. The Acura TL 6 spd may be the next car. The wife and kid love the Nav system with voice recognition and she likes the way it handles better than the Max. I like the idea of the Bremba brakes and the blue instrumentation lights. I do not like the extra $6,000 and really do not care too much about color or wood interior, i am so dissapointed about my Max and Nissan.

I would like to talk to Edify 11 about how he got his new car and refund. Edify please email me. I bet I am going to lose on the 250 for window tint and a couple of other things. I bet the bastards even try to prorate based on mileage.
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I just sent you an e-mail.
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:20 AM
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After calling Nissan Corp (1-800-nissan1) all day yesterday the person finally calls me today. He is still getting all repair records to send off for evaluation. I told him clearly I want my money back period. And asked if everything is being done, escalated etc. He answered yes. He will call me Thursday or Friday for update, and it could still take 40 days in arbitration. In the mean time they will continue trying to fix my lemon. It seems too early to get a lawyer I have to just wait it out. I do find myself punishing the loaner car when I drive it. I am glad I did not get the CAI, wing or anything other than the window tint, 2 sets of wheel locks and a bra.
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[QUOTE=stephanielopez]This is the worst car buying experience I have ever had (I have bought 6 cars and trucks).
The saga started when I tried to order my car in Feb, after 1.5 months I called and the order was screwed up. I re-ordered and after another 1.5 months it was screwed up again. I went to a different dealer and they found me a white one that was close. The plastic on the gear shifter (reverse lockout) was broken and it had 200 miles on it. They found my current car in red that I bought and now look what problems I have. So yes this sucks and I am tired of it. I have been extremely patient but it is now coming to an end.QUOTE]

Wow, does this sound familiar. Before I bought my 5.5gen my boyfriend was looking at '03 Altimas. He wanted a very specific car, basically loaded without the wood. Improssible car to find, btw, and apparently to build.

Hmmm
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this is disturbing to hear. hope all works out.
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Update 9-17-04
Called Nissan1 yesterday and this morning. The rep finally calls today to say they are still reviewing my case and will call me early next week. I said that is not good enough, I want my GD money back and want his supervisor to call me. He said the answer will be the same and his supervisor should call me in 48hours.

I spoke to an attorney specializing in Lemon Law for CA. It could take 60 to 90 days. The criteria is, the car in the shop 4 times. Technically mine has been in 3 times. Or In the shop for 30 days. Mine has been in for over 30 days. The attorney can not do much unless I have the car out of the shop. I would imagine Nissan will not settle if the car is out of the shop (since it would be fixed) Catch 22. Still no offer from Nissan to give me an 05 (which I do not want at this point).

I was told the WallStreet Journal had an article on all the problems with the Nissan Maxima. I have not seen the article and was unable to locate it. If anyone has it please let me know how to get a copy.

My dream car has turned into a nightmare. But I keep making my payments.
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Update 9-30-04
The dealer calls to say my case is going to arbitration and they want the loaner car back. My Max (lemon) is drivable but the SES light is on because of the traction control. Waiting to hear from the arbitor(arbitrator). I may have to decide between driving my Max or have them get me a rental car. At least if I get my car out I can file the lawsuit.
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wow, what a nightmare...i've got probs with my MPG...only getting like 15.4 on avg...have like 1300 miles on it...i really hope that after my 1st oil change, the MPG will be back to the advertised MPG of 20+...I really dun wanna go through all those stuff u went through...what a nightmare...hope everything works out...
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10-1-04 Update.
If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all, ever since I bought a Nissan. Turn in the loaner Altima back to the dealer, for an Enterprise rental car that Nissan is paying $35/day. Enterprise wanted to put me in a Nissan Sentra. I said nothing smaller than an Altima. So it is a Ford Taurus. I drive down the road and here some vibration in the front end and smell oil burning, maybe the car in front of me. Drive 35 miles on the freeway with a freight train rumble from the car (bad tire, CV joint, bearing ??) First stop light off the freeway and now smoke is bellowing out the radiator, I guess the burning oil was me. Call Enterprise pissed off now I am driving a F150 truck.
Still no offer from Nissan to replace or buy back.
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Sh*t i hope this doesn't happen to my new 04 800mile car already had the strut replaced at 40 miles and now the back rattles. good luck
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hope everything works out for you. what a f***in nightmare!!! i thought i had bad luck with my max but compare to you, this is paradise!
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i cannot believe how many people on here have issues with the 04 maxima. Ill def never even consider buying one now, especially after hearing your horror story.

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Maybe check out the Infinity G35. The JD power rating is better and the G35 forum does not seem to have as many problems as the Max. The 05 G35 is suppose to have 30 more Hps.
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Hi, I feel your pain...I have had my 04SL in the shop so many times for so many little and big things that I too am waiting for Nissan to resolve my issues and I am still driving on 2 defective front struts! Dealer has asked me to wait for the redesigned 05 strut part numbers....still waiting since August! Had the transmission changed after only 9,500 miles in August! The car has been in the shop for 1 month out of the 8 that I have owned the car. See my other posts on this forum. I told them that I wanted a swap for a 2005 MAX or a 2005 G35.....still waiting....
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xorbitman,
If you have not called the 1-800-nissan1 number yet, then do it now and get started. I did and I am still waiting. Now I am waiting for the arbitor to call me.
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I really hope your problems get resolved in your favor somehow. The only problem I've had so far is the struts (knock on wood). I do just have to say that I've driven an Acura TL and I was unimpressed. It doesn't corner that well without major body roll (the passengers feel it more) and it doesn't have good acceleration from a standing start. I didn't think it was worth 6,000 more than a Maxima.

With any model, there will be ones that beat the curve, either bad or good. Lots of people supposedly had problems with the '95 Probes, but mine was perfect. I traded it in at 167,000 mostly 'cause I thought I'd need a 4 door car. It beat the curve on the good side.

Sorry you got one of the bad Maximas.
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Yes the Max has a better steering feel than the TL. It's cheaper in $, and has a very nice interior (to my needs a better one than the TL). But honestly, It comes down to quality. Earlier this week I was all hurrah bout my Max even with all it's problems. But an extra problem today has pushed me over the edge. Would you pay 6k more for a car that doesn't have a single issue (or even just ONE), a better nav, and to some better looks (notice i say some, I personally like it but I know friends of mine don't like the look of the new TL).

Stephanielopez, would the extra 6k for a new TL been worth it if it would be trouble free as you would expect a new car to be?
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Finally spoke to the arbitor this am. He needs 24 hours to review some BS and should be getting back to me. He asked if I wanted a replacement or repurchase. I told him I wanted my money back and I had added some things after the purchase that I wanted refunded. I will report more as it happens.
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I picked up the refund check last night Lemon Law. I only lost about $700. Today I return the Nissan paid rental car. This should end my nightmare. Last week I ordered a cadillac CTS v6 6speed. Hope I have better luck and get to buy American.
Thanx to all of you who tried to help. Good luck to all you Maxima folks. Beautifull car but I had my fill.

Thanx,

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Originally Posted by stephanielopez
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I picked up the refund check last night Lemon Law. I only lost about $700. ... Last week I ordered a cadillac CTS v6 6speed. Hope I have better luck and get to buy American.
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Wow. Glad you got your check. I had lemon Law last year with VW and 02 Passat. Actually got full payment + interest. (Boss still chides me that I had car for 1.5years and only paid for gas and ins).

Dunno if the CTS is going to be better car. But hey, ya never know. Good luck!

I'm PO'd I took Max in for first oil change and TSB Glove box fix. Ain't fixed. Anyone have a "cheap" source for online Nissan parts? I'll do it m'self.
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well steph,
sorry about your troubles. sad, but i guess Lemons surface from every manufacturer. Have fun in your Lac. Personally, I would of traded for an 05 fully loaded SE. But I understand the bad taste Nissan has left with you.
take care and let us know how it works out.
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Thanks for all the updates, sorry that you had to go through all the crap you did. Hope your luck is better with the CTS, sounds like a beautiful car, you will have to show us once you get it.

I personally love Cadillac's new direction, and would defintely seriously consider a CTS (kinda wish I'd looked at one before getting my 5.5 gen, but it's been completely reliable, lol, so no reason to look )


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Anyone have an idea how much she got back/mile for the car. I cannot determine the actual mileage on the car. I am talking over the lemon law with lawyers. I need to evaluate all my options.
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Originally Posted by stephanielopez
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I picked up the refund check last night Lemon Law. I only lost about $700. Today I return the Nissan paid rental car. This should end my nightmare. Last week I ordered a cadillac CTS v6 6speed. Hope I have better luck and get to buy American.
Thanx to all of you who tried to help. Good luck to all you Maxima folks. Beautifull car but I had my fill.

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Buy American? I hate to break this to you, but...your Maxima was made in America. Smyrna, Tennessee to be exact.
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I know the refund was $700 for the loss on the car, but how did they come up with that number. The car had 2400 miles on it before it blew tht 1st engine. You think they used that mileage?
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To calculate Depreciation:

Gross purchase price times the mileage divided by 120,000

This calculation is either the same or similar to what they actually use over at Nissan.
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