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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Auto Up/Down all Windows w/ Keyfob?

So, one of my favorite toys on my max is the auto down windows when you press and hold the unlock key. I have two complaints, however. The first is that you can't put them back up with the keyfob. You have to do it with the key in the lock. Well... I never put the key in the lock... why would you, if you can lock it with a push of a button? Seems like it wouldn't be any more difficult to get the windows to go up if you push and hold the lock button.

Second is the more difficult one - getting the rear windows to go up and down too. I'm relatively sure the reason they don't is because they're not auto up/down. Any ideas on how expensive it would be to get them fitted with auto up/down motors/sensors/whatever?

And does anyone have any idea if it's possible to hook up the keyfob so it does auto up like it does auto down (independant of whether or not I can get the rear windows in on the fun)?

-Nate
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Soul - there are federal regulations prohibiting the manufacturers from installing systems that allow windows to be closed remotely; considered a safety hazard (child may have his head sticking in or out). But someone here may have the technical knowledge to override the safety system.

I'm not sure what would be involved with converting the rear windows to 'auto-down'. I bet it won't be easy. Or cheap.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Well... I never put the key in the lock... why would you, if you can lock it with a push of a button? Seems like it

You may want to infrequently use the key in the lock. If you've never used it the cylinder can seize. Six years from now, when the battery in your remote is dead, and you need to get in the car you may find yourself SOL in the middle of nowhere.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
Soul - there are federal regulations prohibiting the manufacturers from installing systems that allow windows to be closed remotely; considered a safety hazard (child may have his head sticking in or out). But someone here may have the technical knowledge to override the safety system.

I'm not sure what would be involved with converting the rear windows to 'auto-down'. I bet it won't be easy. Or cheap.
Don't the rear windows on the SL go down with the remote too?
They are one touch down aren't they?
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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the elite may have rear one touch? not sure. but as far as saftey remote up goes, we have a safety feature if it closes on something it will reopen. the same with the sunroof. (Not sure why someone would leave a child in the car alone for any reason, while using a remote window up or down. But people today, guess we need to safeguard any possibility.)

I think this mod would be way too expensive. I like the key-window up feature because it doesn't require getting in and turning power on to put them up. But yes key fob window close would be nice.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
Soul - there are federal regulations prohibiting the manufacturers from installing systems that allow windows to be closed remotely; considered a safety hazard (child may have his head sticking in or out).
I'm fairly sure that's not true. My other car (2002 MB CLK) has auto up/down using the SmartKey that comes standard with it.

You can hold the unlock button down and it will roll down the windows and open the sunroof. Holding down the lock button will close the sunroof and roll up the windows. The range is limited, but the feature exists.

There is a "pinch sensor" though -- just a basic resistance meter -- that will automatically stop the process if something gets caught in the window. They will roll back down a bit if they sense something (an arm, for example ) is caught in there.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bluemaxx
Don't the rear windows on the SL go down with the remote too?
They are one touch down aren't they?
From what my manual says, the "4 passenger models" (which I assume is the Elite package) has auto down on all 4 windows with the remote.

In my SL, only the fronts go down with the remote.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by viguera
From what my manual says, the "4 passenger models" (which I assume is the Elite package) has auto down on all 4 windows with the remote.

In my SL, only the fronts go down with the remote.
My Elite has all four windows "Auto Down" - it's part of the Elite option along with the heated back seats, console, rear sun screen, and extra 12V outlet along with NAV...

Other models only have the two front lites as "Auto Down".
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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Several astute posters here. I can't get away with anything!

I stand corrected on the regulation concerning the 'remote window auto-up' feature. This rule does not apply to windows with contact-sensing auto-reversal capability.

The 'remote auto-up' capability for windows would be a really nice feature for Nissan to add to the '06 Maxima. For the '08 Maxima, Nissan could add a 'rain sensor' (they do exist), which would completely close all windows and the sunroof if rain was detected.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
The 'remote auto-up' capability for windows would be a really nice feature for Nissan to add to the '06 Maxima. For the '08 Maxima, Nissan could add a 'rain sensor' (they do exist), which would completely close all windows and the sunroof if rain was detected.
There are a few things that I would mod into this car... if I had the money and time...

Auto-up would definitely be one of them... it's ridiculous that you can roll the windows down remotely (to get something that you forgot in the car, for example), but you can't roll them up. I'm sure the mechanism is there (hell, all you gotta do is the same thing in reverse... )

The rain sensor is a good idea, but I'd put it where it's needed first... the wipers. Speed-sensing wipers are a retarded idea... I need the wipers to work harder when it's raining more... they shouldn't care if I'm going 10 or 100... but that's just me.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Yeah, I pretty much figured converting the back windows to auto would be expensive, but figured I'd see if anyone else had thought of it. Auto up would be awfully handy.

Good point about the key cylinder freezing up... though I doubt it's likely to happen... consider how often you use the key on the passenger side door of most cars, and I've never heard of one freezing up.

Ahh... I didn't realize we had contact sensing windows.... I noticed my driver's side window once "bounced" off the top of the opening when I was auto-upping it, and went back down a bit... I was sure it was a glitch in the computer or something, since it never happened before or since. Now I know what it was - a glitch, but also a safety mechanism. Huh. Wonder how much pressure it takes before it bounces back down?

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:35 AM
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Uhm, I'm pretty sure someone had already modded their windows to go up with the keyfob lock button by adding a relay somewhere... Anyone else remember this? As I recall, it was pretty straight forward.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljourner
Yeah, I pretty much figured converting the back windows to auto would be expensive, but figured I'd see if anyone else had thought of it. Auto up would be awfully handy.

Good point about the key cylinder freezing up... though I doubt it's likely to happen... consider how often you use the key on the passenger side door of most cars, and I've never heard of one freezing up.

Ahh... I didn't realize we had contact sensing windows.... I noticed my driver's side window once "bounced" off the top of the opening when I was auto-upping it, and went back down a bit... I was sure it was a glitch in the computer or something, since it never happened before or since. Now I know what it was - a glitch, but also a safety mechanism. Huh. Wonder how much pressure it takes before it bounces back down?

-Nate
Oh, I'm not quite sure why I am admitting to this but one time I was interacting with someone through the window when it started to rain really, really, really hard very quickly. Anyway, I was trying to close the window with my left hand and finish up with my right hand but I didn't quite make it out in time - the window caght my right wrist... and it hurt (the window didn't automatically stop , but maybe I didn't give it enough time?).
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by viguera
There are a few things that I would mod into this car... if I had the money and time...

Auto-up would definitely be one of them... it's ridiculous that you can roll the windows down remotely (to get something that you forgot in the car, for example),
but after you get out what you need, you're already at the car, couldn't you just use the key in the lock to close them? Although I still agree the key fob should do this.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljourner
Good point about the key cylinder freezing up... though I doubt it's likely to happen... consider how often you use the key on the passenger side door of most cars, and I've never heard of one freezing up.
-Nate
Actually my last car, '88 buick, was really hard to unlock the passenger door. I assume it wasn't used much. Everytime I tried to unlock it with the key for someone, i thought my key would break. It was also the only door that wouldn't completely open with the power locks. Could also be because it's GM...
One of many little examples of why I LOVE my Max so much.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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The contact sensors only work when the window is being closed in auto-up mode. I also found this out the hard way.

If you continually hold the button up to close the window, it will not automatically back off when something gets in it's way.

Found this out the hard way. I was showing this feature off to a friend of mine. She tried it by putting her hand in the window, but continually held the button. It didn't stop, and hurt quite a bit.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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but after you get out what you need, you're already at the car, couldn't you just use the key in the lock to close them? Although I still agree the key fob should do this.
You could, but that's just the donkey way of doing it...

The feature is good for what it is... a quick way to dump the heat in the cabin without having to actually deal with it. As far as that's concerned goes, it's a great thing and it works well. If you want to use it any other way, then it sucks... the problem is that I'm used to using it other ways, so for me it's a hassle.

On the way to work, if I want to quickly grab something from the car, I suppose I could unlock and open the door and get it, but I'm so lazy that I'd much rather push a button, reach in and get it, then push a button to close the window. But that's just me... my lazyness knows no end...
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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BTW, I tested out the contact sensors on my windows the other day.... hit auto up, then pushed down hard on the window, to see how much pressure it took... um... I couldn't actually get it to stop. I don't think I want to find out know how much arm crushing is required for it to stop. :P

-Nate
Old Aug 26, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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I have a 2004 Max DPP package and what i did was i installed 2 dei 530T window modules, this allows for i touch express up and down for all 4 windows, also i have it hooked up to my alarm so that i hit the option button, and all windows go up and down. also when my alarm activates all the windows go up by themselves.
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