First Ticket =(
Originally Posted by Ankit69
how much of an increase am i looking at insurance wise?
Insurance is a funny thing, I would make sure you come clean with your parents and let them know. Also, in court, if the cop shows up, would come clean there also, tell them your excuse is BS and tell them you want to make things right. Doubt a lawyer will be worth the money in this case, this is my PERSONAL opinion though.
I am not perfect myself, got nailed for going 80 in a 55.....coming out of Las Vegas, cop said he could have taken me to jail, impounded the car...al sorts of stuff that scared the crud out of me. Take this as a lesson, cop was doing his job. What happens in court....never know. Hopefully it works out for you, but will be a painfull lesson to your pocket book. I would mellow out on your speed....next time, if they get ya again, your Maxima might be parked for you to look at and remember...."Ahh, looks so pretty, I remember what it used to feel like to drive it."
You get the picture, not going to crap on you about it, but better save some money....the pain is coming.
yea im done doing that **** but anybody got a rough idea how much money i would need because i dont want my parents to pay for it... i wuld rather borrow it or work for it regardless of everything...
I would say to definitely get a lawyer. Get a connected one as mentioned above and the politics makes stuff magically disappear. I've gotten caught driving while suspended a few times and I've gotten off of it every time I used a lawyer. I paid MUCHO bucks for the lawyer but, your gonna pay either way. I just prefer paying the lawyer and saving points/jail time/whatever. I can recommend a lawyer in bergen county but, he's not cheap. He's gotten me off some tickets and he's taken care of a few close friends for me.
Either way, good luck man....
Either way, good luck man....
I don't know...I guess it depends on what kind of pull he has in the town you got pulled over in. It's all politics, favors are traded and so on and so forth. I've seen him get my friends uncle off of a DWI scott free. Worst case, he'll get the tickets dropped down to something reasonable.
I got a ticket for going 107 in a 70, I know stupid, stupid. It was in the middle of the desert, daytime dry etc...etc..still retarded.
Anyways, here's how it works in Cali.
You have to appear.
You can't take traffic school.
You get 2 points automatically.
I was 5th in line and the 1st 2 guys had lawyers, they were no help, at least in this court room. The other 3 guys tried some to make up some stories, blah blah, the judge wasn't having any of it. There were at least 25 people in there that day for going over 100. If he wrote me for 99 the I would have been fine, traffic school, no points, low fine. But now I have 2 points, my insurance is going to skyrocket...and it cost me $600!!
Lesson learned, don't get caught going over 100mph (just kidding, just say no!)
Anyways, here's how it works in Cali.
You have to appear.
You can't take traffic school.
You get 2 points automatically.
I was 5th in line and the 1st 2 guys had lawyers, they were no help, at least in this court room. The other 3 guys tried some to make up some stories, blah blah, the judge wasn't having any of it. There were at least 25 people in there that day for going over 100. If he wrote me for 99 the I would have been fine, traffic school, no points, low fine. But now I have 2 points, my insurance is going to skyrocket...and it cost me $600!!
Lesson learned, don't get caught going over 100mph (just kidding, just say no!)
I've got a ticket for doing 96mph in 65mph zone, and the fine was around $600 (in Virginia, this was like 5 yrs ago)
the next day my sister got pulled over for doing 94mph on NJ turnpike, she paid about $300. I see "fine doubled" sign on NJ turnpike, still it's like half of the VA fine.
in VA, if you go over 90, you get jail sentence...that's what i heard.
you should get a lawyer, that might be money saving in a long term.
hate VA cops...so strict...i paid over $3000 total of the fine during my college
years.
the next day my sister got pulled over for doing 94mph on NJ turnpike, she paid about $300. I see "fine doubled" sign on NJ turnpike, still it's like half of the VA fine.
in VA, if you go over 90, you get jail sentence...that's what i heard.
you should get a lawyer, that might be money saving in a long term.
hate VA cops...so strict...i paid over $3000 total of the fine during my college
years.
Originally Posted by Ankit69
yea i got 2 tickets.....1 for going 98 in a 55 ! =( gotta go to court)
and the second was for careless driving
and the second was for careless driving
damn...ohio fines aren't to bad. i got caught doing 92 in a 65...which is 27 over. fine was $155. my insurance just renewed...so i will find out the damage in 6 months. was sort of a road rage induced speeding incident. you have to accept your mistakes. cop came up to my car and i was polite. i apoligized for being so stupid and hoped he would write it under....he didn't.
i think the best thing to do is tell the judge the truth. tell them that you lied about the hospital. your young, its your first ticket and you were scared about what would happen so you lied. hope that the judge has some compassion and goes easy on you. you gotta learn when you grow up to accept you mistakes. it makes your stronger.
i think the best thing to do is tell the judge the truth. tell them that you lied about the hospital. your young, its your first ticket and you were scared about what would happen so you lied. hope that the judge has some compassion and goes easy on you. you gotta learn when you grow up to accept you mistakes. it makes your stronger.
Originally Posted by msoemax
Nizzan, you advise this and you were a cop?
nice.
nice.What should he do, plead guilty? He is screwed unless he is creative, that's the reality. Try walking into court asking Mercy for going 43 over.
Sure.........................
But I would have cuffed and stuffed him also. Now that I am retired I can say what I want on the net..............
Who's your carrier - the issue is that your parents probably have a preferred rate, and your ticket will jeopardize that rating for you - you may have to switch to standard rate with your carrier, and could be another 10%-30% depending on who your insurer is - surely there is a member here who sells insurance that can comment further but my experience with my kids is that State Farm was pretty decent to deal with when one of my girls had an accident - 10% surcharge on their policy amount for 3 years - but a ticket for 40mph+ over and reckless driving charge?? Who knows...
Originally Posted by Lytheum
damn...ohio fines aren't to bad. i got caught doing 92 in a 65...which is 27 over. fine was $155. my insurance just renewed...so i will find out the damage in 6 months. was sort of a road rage induced speeding incident. you have to accept your mistakes. cop came up to my car and i was polite. i apoligized for being so stupid and hoped he would write it under....he didn't.

After I stopped, he put me through the test to see what he could grab me with... In between (seemingly) innocent questions he'd ask me if I had any idea how fast I was going -- he did this 3 times. The answer every time was "I didn't know I was going that fast" -- which was a lie, and he knew it too, but I'm not gonna admit to it...

In the end he said he had to tag me from behind because I was blew by him too fast... He wrote me for 88 on a 55. Fine was $275. CT is a no-point state, but one or two more of those and I'm headed to driving school.
:Tell the truth. Tell your parents AFTER dinner. Sit them down and say" Yo pops and co "... Then ask to get a lawyer. Yes, you were speeding. Seems all you care about is the ticket and your insurance. Not the fact you endangered others lives. But atleast you did tell the forum. You didn't have to. Or were you looking for that "freebie gift advice"?
Jersey Troopers are people too. And they are protecting other drivers from folks...just like you! It could have been worse. You could be dead. Or someone else.
Yes, we all speed. Yes, we all drive maximas. $30K cars...that go really fast. Yes, we need to drive responsibly.
Again, talk to your folks. Learn from your mistakes. Be humble. Apologize about the lie (c'mon...I bet your heart was racing with those lights behind you). You panic'd. Right?
I'm sure theree are many on this list that have accrued 400,000 mile or more driving. Think about it. Some of us may have had no points, for decades, and drive fast. Maybe its luck. Or maybe its the fact that there are lest cops per mile per driver than it used to be.
Sound like I am preaching? Sorry. Just wanted to chime in.
Good Luck. Same thing happened to me, at 17. Though I wasn't able to go dat fast in a 4cyl 4Runner.
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I'm sure theree are many on this list that have accrued 400,000 mile or more driving. Think about it. Some of us may have had no points, for decades, and drive fast. Maybe its luck. Or maybe its the fact that there are lest cops per mile per driver than it used to be.
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yeah....i want 5 1/2 years without a ticket. i got the ticket cause i didn't follow my guidlines for speeding...yes i have my own personal guidlines as to when i feel i can speed. i got caught up in the moment with messing with a jerk and got caught. I never speed in areas i dont know. i never speed in areas that i see cops. i only speed in short bursts(punch it get up pretty quick and drop back down). never speed in areas you cant see a good portion of road in front of you. i constantly scan in front and behind for cops. lol....seems crazy, but it works well. im not in a hury to get anywhere i just like goin fast sometimes.
:I'm sure theree are many on this list that have accrued 400,000 mile or more driving. Think about it. Some of us may have had no points, for decades, and drive fast. Maybe its luck. Or maybe its the fact that there are lest cops per mile per driver than it used to be.
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yeah....i want 5 1/2 years without a ticket. i got the ticket cause i didn't follow my guidlines for speeding...yes i have my own personal guidlines as to when i feel i can speed. i got caught up in the moment with messing with a jerk and got caught. I never speed in areas i dont know. i never speed in areas that i see cops. i only speed in short bursts(punch it get up pretty quick and drop back down). never speed in areas you cant see a good portion of road in front of you. i constantly scan in front and behind for cops. lol....seems crazy, but it works well. im not in a hury to get anywhere i just like goin fast sometimes.
My suggestion, based on a lot of court experience, is to:
1. Tell your parents. Tell them you have made a terrible mistake but you have learned for the better from it (and hopefully you did).
2. Go to court, admit your mistake(s), explain to the judge how sorry you are and how you are going to change your ways to be more respectful of the law and of others (you could have killed someone). And then plead the court for leniency since it was your first mistake. If you sound like you mean it (best way to do this is to actually mean it...) and they might cut you some slack. You need to differentiate yourself from all the other scum the judge sees day in and day - be refreshingly remourseful and respectful.
3. Take whatever punishment you get (points, fines, increased insurance costs, suspension, jail) like a man - you did do the crime and now you have to do the time. That is how it works.
4. Get on with your life, don't do it again and 'drive to stay alive' going forward.
By the way - here is another tip. Dress professionally (a suit is excellent). As you get to court, ask an official if the judge is "your honor" or "your worship" or whatever. Get it right and use the correct term and "yes sir/ma'am' throughout the proceedings. Refer to the cop as "Officer". Listen, don't interrupt, keep it brief, be remourseful, be respectful. And you might just get a break.
Good luck.
1. Tell your parents. Tell them you have made a terrible mistake but you have learned for the better from it (and hopefully you did).
2. Go to court, admit your mistake(s), explain to the judge how sorry you are and how you are going to change your ways to be more respectful of the law and of others (you could have killed someone). And then plead the court for leniency since it was your first mistake. If you sound like you mean it (best way to do this is to actually mean it...) and they might cut you some slack. You need to differentiate yourself from all the other scum the judge sees day in and day - be refreshingly remourseful and respectful.
3. Take whatever punishment you get (points, fines, increased insurance costs, suspension, jail) like a man - you did do the crime and now you have to do the time. That is how it works.
4. Get on with your life, don't do it again and 'drive to stay alive' going forward.
By the way - here is another tip. Dress professionally (a suit is excellent). As you get to court, ask an official if the judge is "your honor" or "your worship" or whatever. Get it right and use the correct term and "yes sir/ma'am' throughout the proceedings. Refer to the cop as "Officer". Listen, don't interrupt, keep it brief, be remourseful, be respectful. And you might just get a break.
Good luck.
Originally Posted by Lytheum
yeah....i want 5 1/2 years without a ticket. i got the ticket cause i didn't follow my guidlines for speeding...yes i have my own personal guidlines as to when i feel i can speed. i got caught up in the moment with messing with a jerk and got caught. I never speed in areas i dont know. i never speed in areas that i see cops. i only speed in short bursts(punch it get up pretty quick and drop back down). never speed in areas you cant see a good portion of road in front of you. i constantly scan in front and behind for cops. lol....seems crazy, but it works well. im not in a hury to get anywhere i just like goin fast sometimes.
).I never speed at night on the highway if I'm running alone, never speed when cresting over a hill, and you can drive crazy as long as you don't drive stupid. That's worked for me most of the time, and the only times that I've gotten tickets is when I don't follow those rules.
The Basics
Beat a speeding ticket to keep your rates down
Don’t try these excuses
Everybody was going the same speed. Marcia Cunningham of the National Traffic Law Center says, "Many times I've heard a judge say, 'The river is full of fish. You can't snag them all.'"
He's picking on me because I drive a red sports car. This is a nonstarter.
The radar was wrong. It's possible, but the odds are against beating a radar-based citation, especially if you don't have the radar records as evidence and can't point to specific errors the officer made.
I was going to see my sick [fill in the blank]. This never works unless the judge dies laughing. Even then, the case would probably be rescheduled.
Beat a speeding ticket to keep your rates down
Don’t try these excuses
Everybody was going the same speed. Marcia Cunningham of the National Traffic Law Center says, "Many times I've heard a judge say, 'The river is full of fish. You can't snag them all.'"
He's picking on me because I drive a red sports car. This is a nonstarter.
The radar was wrong. It's possible, but the odds are against beating a radar-based citation, especially if you don't have the radar records as evidence and can't point to specific errors the officer made.
I was going to see my sick [fill in the blank]. This never works unless the judge dies laughing. Even then, the case would probably be rescheduled.
Originally Posted by MaxMus
i got hit (busted) on route 22. the only thing you can do is either pay the fine, or go to court, plead your case and ask for driving school (defensive driving, not really sure what it is), and hope the judge has mercy on you.
i made a deal with the prosecutor, he dropped my fine to like $80 and halved my points.
hope everything works out for you though. I feel your pain. I got a feeling that in the next couple months, I'll be in the same spot as you. The Max just asks you to push it sometimes.
i made a deal with the prosecutor, he dropped my fine to like $80 and halved my points.
hope everything works out for you though. I feel your pain. I got a feeling that in the next couple months, I'll be in the same spot as you. The Max just asks you to push it sometimes.
S - Search
E - Evaluate
E - Execute
The Smith Defensive driving (The Five Seeing Habits) which I took when I was a 10th grader in high school, got my first license (Virginia) at 15 years & 8 months...been riding and driving with these systems for 20+ years:
Aim High In Steering: Look as far down the road as possible to uncover important traffic information to make appropriate decisions.
Get The Big Picture: Maintain the proper following distance so you can comfortably determine the true hazards around your vehicle. Don't tailgate others.
Keep Your Eyes Moving: Scan, don't stare. Constantly shift your eyes while driving. Active eyes keep up with changing traffic conditions.
Leave Yourself An Out: Be prepared. Surround your vehicle with space in front and at least on one side to escape conflict.
Make Sure They See You: Communicate in traffic with your horn, lights and signals to establish eye contact with motorists and pedestrians. Be reasonably sure of people's intentions.
I went many years without a ticket while I had my Mazda because it lacked the ride of the Max. Since I got the Max I've gotten 2 tickets. One in Mass for doing 91 in a 65. It was a clear day, a clean highway, and no one was on it. The Max has a bad influence over my right foot at times
$260 which I paid the next day to avoid the cost of fines + losing work time to fight it. I was on a business trip and the 260$ was covered by my mileage expenses so I just hoped it wouldn't hit my record. I checked my DMV history a couple of months later and Mass didn't slap it onto my history thankfully.
Recently on another trip I got hit in CT on an intrastate freeway. Now that's a really really bad thing. I was clocked @ 96 and I'm sure that was accurate because I was clocked while trying to pass a cluster of vehicles. Anything over 90 here is reckless driving. No fine. Court date, but you can be locked up on the spot and have your car towed. In CT we are allowed to speak to a prosecutor before the judge and you can normally take care of business there. I would suggest trying this before hiring a lawyer, which would've cost me $1000. If the prosecutor won't play ball then ask for a postponement in order to get representation and have your lawyer take care of it anyway possible. I ended up with a $200 fine.
If I were you I would tell my parents immediately so that you can get something planned. Are you on your parents insurance? If not they might be safe from insurance being raised. Do not BS the court system. They've heard it all before and all it does is **** them off more. Be very humble. A judge will have zero tolerance for lies and ignorant mannerisms so do not lie and make sure you act straight edge. If NJ works like CT I wouldn't get a lawyer just yet, but you may wish to consult them. It all comes down to how much money you or your parents wish to drop on this. There are those that will get this dropped down to nothing and others that will have you use your AR which I'm guessing you'll need to hold onto for something in the future. Its a big decision and I wouldn't argue with them no matter what they choose to do. Don't go over 85.
$260 which I paid the next day to avoid the cost of fines + losing work time to fight it. I was on a business trip and the 260$ was covered by my mileage expenses so I just hoped it wouldn't hit my record. I checked my DMV history a couple of months later and Mass didn't slap it onto my history thankfully.Recently on another trip I got hit in CT on an intrastate freeway. Now that's a really really bad thing. I was clocked @ 96 and I'm sure that was accurate because I was clocked while trying to pass a cluster of vehicles. Anything over 90 here is reckless driving. No fine. Court date, but you can be locked up on the spot and have your car towed. In CT we are allowed to speak to a prosecutor before the judge and you can normally take care of business there. I would suggest trying this before hiring a lawyer, which would've cost me $1000. If the prosecutor won't play ball then ask for a postponement in order to get representation and have your lawyer take care of it anyway possible. I ended up with a $200 fine.
If I were you I would tell my parents immediately so that you can get something planned. Are you on your parents insurance? If not they might be safe from insurance being raised. Do not BS the court system. They've heard it all before and all it does is **** them off more. Be very humble. A judge will have zero tolerance for lies and ignorant mannerisms so do not lie and make sure you act straight edge. If NJ works like CT I wouldn't get a lawyer just yet, but you may wish to consult them. It all comes down to how much money you or your parents wish to drop on this. There are those that will get this dropped down to nothing and others that will have you use your AR which I'm guessing you'll need to hold onto for something in the future. Its a big decision and I wouldn't argue with them no matter what they choose to do. Don't go over 85.
Ankit......
Dude, you MUST fess up the truth to how fast you were driving and the obvious lie you told the trooper because when you do go to court no matter what you say to the judge your royally screwed UNLESS YOU FESS UP. Depending on your insurance company your insurance rates will most likely double, at least. Why you ask? The fact that your a high risk driver (being under 25), caught for reckless driving (and eventually lying), and going 40+ is gravy for insurance company.
Like many of the members have already stated lying was probably the stupidest idea ever.....why do you think he asked so many questions about your mom acting "concerned"?? So he can close your *** out during court. Your wishful thinking is going to backfire royally unless you fess up, just do it. You think going to court by yourself and paying the upfront fee by yourself will cover your butt? Who pays the insurance? Your parents- who will obviously notice how much the insurance has skyrocketed for no apparent reason.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but I also just got a speeding ticket 6 days before leaving for college......@#$@! pissed off beyond belief. The way to do it is to just man up and tell the truth because chances are your 'rents will respect the fact that you fessed up instead of bs'ing the story.....like the way you seemed to have done already.
Your 'rents won't be pissed about the ticket price that needs to be paid it's the thousands of dollars that will be paid to insurance for at least three years......so again let me reiterate the main idea of my blabble.......GROW SOME *****, FESS UP, AND FACE THE CONSEQUENCES
Don't dig a deeper grave for yourself and regret taking some of the more sane advice from this post. Good luck bro.
Dude, you MUST fess up the truth to how fast you were driving and the obvious lie you told the trooper because when you do go to court no matter what you say to the judge your royally screwed UNLESS YOU FESS UP. Depending on your insurance company your insurance rates will most likely double, at least. Why you ask? The fact that your a high risk driver (being under 25), caught for reckless driving (and eventually lying), and going 40+ is gravy for insurance company.
Like many of the members have already stated lying was probably the stupidest idea ever.....why do you think he asked so many questions about your mom acting "concerned"?? So he can close your *** out during court. Your wishful thinking is going to backfire royally unless you fess up, just do it. You think going to court by yourself and paying the upfront fee by yourself will cover your butt? Who pays the insurance? Your parents- who will obviously notice how much the insurance has skyrocketed for no apparent reason.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but I also just got a speeding ticket 6 days before leaving for college......@#$@! pissed off beyond belief. The way to do it is to just man up and tell the truth because chances are your 'rents will respect the fact that you fessed up instead of bs'ing the story.....like the way you seemed to have done already.
Your 'rents won't be pissed about the ticket price that needs to be paid it's the thousands of dollars that will be paid to insurance for at least three years......so again let me reiterate the main idea of my blabble.......GROW SOME *****, FESS UP, AND FACE THE CONSEQUENCES
Don't dig a deeper grave for yourself and regret taking some of the more sane advice from this post. Good luck bro.
Originally Posted by Ankit69
but what if im able to get rid of the reckless driving ticket and bring down the speeding ticket because its my first offense... so if they bring it down wouldnt it just be better to tell them den. im going to be paying for the ticket fine and im also going to start helping out with the insurance more...
Just STFU and be a man and get your *** to court. YOur post illustrates 2 things about you. You were reckless and coulda caused a major accident possibly killing others. Not only that, you lied that your mom was in the hospital. What if she was really on her death bed? Awfully lame *** excuse you have come up with and I hope you get your *** handed to you.
GC
Originally Posted by CanadianMoFo
Lurn to speek reel gud b4 da c0urt dat3. If you sounded like some punk wigger-gangsta-wannabe when the officer was talking to you at the window, you likely bumped up your ticket. Every encounter with a police officer includes an attitude test.
GC
Originally Posted by Ankit69
ill think about it but lemme ask you sumting you know bascially my entire story what do you think he'll be able to do ?
GC
so finally got my court date, went to court today and they dropped the inital charge of a 98 in a 55 to a 69 in a 55 lucked out big time only getting two points instead of 7 which were from speeding and careless driving
Ok, I have extensive experience on this very subject, and can give insight on what you should do, what is most likely going to happen, and what will happen to the insurance.
First off, im 23 yrs old now, and started driving at 17..in that time period I accumulated atleast 10 tickets, about 6 of which were for speeding. My 1st speeding ticket was about 20 over when I was 17. I was able to get mostly all the tickets 'fixed' (downgraded to parking tickets)
But for the ones I was too scared to tell the parents about (im on their insurance)...ended up putting some points on...this is where the fun begins.
The costs of the ticket was not that big of a deal, one was simply mailed in($150 or so, city of bflo, no plea bargaining, 3 points)
Im not really keen on remembering which ones were fixed and which were not...but I know for a fact 2 tickets cost me points.
Insurance on 3 cars went from $150/mo to $600/mo.
Its now going down...but man...do anything in your power to stop those points
As a sidebar, in NYS 30+ over is automatic revocation, im sure NJ is no different, so be prepared to lose your license
First off, im 23 yrs old now, and started driving at 17..in that time period I accumulated atleast 10 tickets, about 6 of which were for speeding. My 1st speeding ticket was about 20 over when I was 17. I was able to get mostly all the tickets 'fixed' (downgraded to parking tickets)
But for the ones I was too scared to tell the parents about (im on their insurance)...ended up putting some points on...this is where the fun begins.
The costs of the ticket was not that big of a deal, one was simply mailed in($150 or so, city of bflo, no plea bargaining, 3 points)
Im not really keen on remembering which ones were fixed and which were not...but I know for a fact 2 tickets cost me points.
Insurance on 3 cars went from $150/mo to $600/mo.
Its now going down...but man...do anything in your power to stop those points
As a sidebar, in NYS 30+ over is automatic revocation, im sure NJ is no different, so be prepared to lose your license
Ya know what, Ive never had a cop write the ticket for the actual speed i was going...i mean, the fact this cop wrote it for that break neck speed is writing on the wall that you are totally screwed....reckless just adds insult to injury. You must get in touch with the DA and try to get this downgraded to parking tickets or to a lesser offense...if you do nothing you're going to really regret it.
Originally Posted by SilverSL
I got a 74 on a 55, anyone in NY know how much this will cost me if i plead gulity or what will happen if i plea not guilty. I really dont have the time to mess around at court so im leanin towards gulity.
Originally Posted by 2004 Smoke
My suggestion, based on a lot of court experience, is to:
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hope he (ankit69) learns something from this..
I got myself a tkt yesterday (runined 3.5 yrs of driving decently - Tercels were overtaking me during this time!) .. momentary lapse of reason? or just as Maxmus put it
Originally Posted by MaxMus
I feel your pain. I got a feeling that in the next couple months, I'll be in the same spot as you. The Max just asks you to push it sometimes.
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