Unorthodox UDP
Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
Since this is still up does anyone still have the correct belt numbers for the Unorthodox Pulley? Mine are gonna get replaced cause they whine a little bit sometimes.
ALTERNATOR & A/C BELT:
GATES, Part# K060408
(41.5" or 1055mm) or
GATES, Part# K060410
(41" 5/8 or 1066mm)
POWER STEERING BELT:
GATES, Part# K040300
(30.75" or 780mm)
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
Since this is still up does anyone still have the correct belt numbers for the Unorthodox Pulley? Mine are gonna get replaced cause they whine a little bit sometimes.
Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
And remember, keep a list of the belts in ur glvoe compartment in case one goes out on u on the road, or for the new owner when u sell ur car. Right???
The pulley bolt is 19 mm. I tried but could not get it off. I cant seem to be able to hold the pulley still when I used the breaker bar. The lil mother is on there good. I also used an impact gun. Still, no go.
Originally Posted by darrinps
So "righty tighty lefty loosey" may not hold here?
Originally Posted by chernmax
NOT IN THIS CASE...
This is from an 03 FSM
Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
The pulley bolt is 19 mm. I tried but could not get it off. I cant seem to be able to hold the pulley still when I used the breaker bar. The lil mother is on there good. I also used an impact gun. Still, no go.
Originally Posted by eng92
Are you sure about that? I just took the crank pulley bolt out of an 02 VQ3.5 and it is a RH thread.
This is from an 03 FSM

This is from an 03 FSM

So which way is it (loosen = counter-clockwise or clockwise)?
Hard to believe that we can't come to agreement on this one!
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Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by darrinps
So which way is it (loosen = counter-clockwise or clockwise)?
Hard to believe that we can't come to agreement on this one!
Hard to believe that we can't come to agreement on this one!
Originally Posted by chernmax
For removal of the pulley bolt, it is COUNTER clockwise like shown in the picture. See the black directional arrow for removal, it's going ths way =====>>>>>
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Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by darrinps
Thanks...I thought some had reported the opposite in the 2004+ (not that it made sense...but you never know).
Originally Posted by SSurfer
Well? Did it work?
I am 99% sure it was counter-clockwise.
I am 99% sure it was counter-clockwise.
I talked to a local mechanic and he wanted $100 to change it.

Said it would take two to three shop hours. Two or more hours?

My only concern is getting the belt to the proper tightness.
Where is the belt tensioner located (no mention in the directions that came from UDP...very poor directions IMHO)?
Also, how tight should they be (how much deflection)?
The only thing I can think of is visually inspecting the current belts to see how much flex they have and attempt to mimic that when I put the new ones on.
BTW, I plan on taking pictures and writing up a how-to and posting here when it is all done, but it will probably be a while before I get to it.
[QUOTE=darrinps]How long did it take you to do yours?
I talked to a local mechanic and he wanted $100 to change it.
I paid about 75 dollars and it took less than a hour and have had no problems with it. Later Warren
I talked to a local mechanic and he wanted $100 to change it.

I paid about 75 dollars and it took less than a hour and have had no problems with it. Later Warren
About 1 hour at home, no power tools, but I do have a floor jack & jack stands
The pulley came off by hand, no puller needed. The nut was'nt as hard as yours(Thank God!!) As far as tightness, for me its more a "Feel" thing. Try checking how tight your factory belt is before taking it off.
Keep us ipdated!
The pulley came off by hand, no puller needed. The nut was'nt as hard as yours(Thank God!!) As far as tightness, for me its more a "Feel" thing. Try checking how tight your factory belt is before taking it off.Keep us ipdated!
Originally Posted by SSurfer
About 1 hour at home, no power tools, but I do have a floor jack & jack stands
The pulley came off by hand, no puller needed. The nut was'nt as hard as yours(Thank God!!) As far as tightness, for me its more a "Feel" thing. Try checking how tight your factory belt is before taking it off.
Keep us ipdated!
The pulley came off by hand, no puller needed. The nut was'nt as hard as yours(Thank God!!) As far as tightness, for me its more a "Feel" thing. Try checking how tight your factory belt is before taking it off.Keep us ipdated!
I'll probably install the Cattman RSB at that time too, and may pick up a short throw shifter between now and then. After that I'll probably find a dyno shop so we can get a (relatively...only UDP and POP charger) base line on a 2005 6 speed.
BTW, is it fairly obvious where the belt tightener is located?
Thanks again.
if you have a stick put it into 5th gear and have someone press the brakes. If this doesn't work brace the pully with something by sticking a small rod or screwdriver through the pully and against the block.
it's a hard nut to crack but it will go. Just be patient. It took me less than an hour from start to finish.
Also what are people talking about leaking? Whats going to leak? What does a UR pulley have to do with an oil leak? I'm sorry but I don't understand where the hell this would come from and I've been working on cars for years. My shop has never seen this happen either.
John
it's a hard nut to crack but it will go. Just be patient. It took me less than an hour from start to finish.
Also what are people talking about leaking? Whats going to leak? What does a UR pulley have to do with an oil leak? I'm sorry but I don't understand where the hell this would come from and I've been working on cars for years. My shop has never seen this happen either.
John
Originally Posted by Crazy-J
Also what are people talking about leaking? Whats going to leak? What does a UR pulley have to do with an oil leak? I'm sorry but I don't understand where the hell this would come from and I've been working on cars for years. My shop has never seen this happen either.
John
John
I put a set of pulleys on my Mustang Cobra and couldn't tell any difference, other than my alternator would not work at idle. I'm pretty skeptical on this mod. Seems that if you underdrive enough to really make a hp difference, there would be problems with accessories not spinning fast enough.
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
Originally Posted by motometal
I put a set of pulleys on my Mustang Cobra and couldn't tell any difference, other than my alternator would not work at idle. I'm pretty skeptical on this mod. Seems that if you underdrive enough to really make a hp difference, there would be problems with accessories not spinning fast enough.
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
Originally Posted by motometal
I put a set of pulleys on my Mustang Cobra and couldn't tell any difference, other than my alternator would not work at idle. I'm pretty skeptical on this mod. Seems that if you underdrive enough to really make a hp difference, there would be problems with accessories not spinning fast enough.
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
I don't have time to look it up now, but someone did a test using a 3.5 Altima that should be a fairly good apples to apples comparison.
Originally Posted by motometal
I put a set of pulleys on my Mustang Cobra and couldn't tell any difference, other than my alternator would not work at idle. I'm pretty skeptical on this mod. Seems that if you underdrive enough to really make a hp difference, there would be problems with accessories not spinning fast enough.
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
There's a certain "junk science" element at work selling the lighter pulley theory...
Ever notice how most of the dyno charts out there showing gains from mods are from someone who has an agenda?
GIVE YOU MORE POWER. You would be spinning your SC slower?




