Torque is gone?
Torque is gone?
Hey guys maybe you can help me here. When I first bought my car the torque was so strong it would basically rip the steering wheel out of your hands. Now I can gun it and the steering wheel is very steady PLUS the power seems to be diminished quite a bit. I mean it is still quicker than my old 95 SE or most other cars I have driven but it doesnt seem like itself. I was wondering if the lack of torque is something others experienced after they had theirs for a while or is this unusual?
I do know that I realized I had been using Jet Pep fuel (cheaper) for sometime now and they have 10% ethanol and the manual states no more than 5%. I am switching to better a brand. I have always used 93 octane, but the ethanol could have diminished it's performance. I am not sure but the lack of torque steering is puzzling. No matter how hard I get on it NONE
I do know that I realized I had been using Jet Pep fuel (cheaper) for sometime now and they have 10% ethanol and the manual states no more than 5%. I am switching to better a brand. I have always used 93 octane, but the ethanol could have diminished it's performance. I am not sure but the lack of torque steering is puzzling. No matter how hard I get on it NONE
your forearms got a lot stronger.
I think maybe you're just used to it now. it kinda crossed my mind too. maybe once everything breaks in, it isn't as detrimental to the steering. or maybe the A/C running and hot air coming in reduces some power
My guess is that since it's expected, we grip harder and are in better control.
I think maybe you're just used to it now. it kinda crossed my mind too. maybe once everything breaks in, it isn't as detrimental to the steering. or maybe the A/C running and hot air coming in reduces some power

My guess is that since it's expected, we grip harder and are in better control.
15,000 miles and yea I would normally say that it is b/c I am used to it. However, I can let the steering wheel go w/no hands, and it will be fine without any pull gunning it. Not that I am complaining about that but the torque was part of the fun I guess.
I complained about the torque steer a bit and found out that on a perfectly flat road and the wheels straight there is zero torque steer. With a slightly uneven road or with the wheel slightly turned the torqueteer is horrible. Could you be on smooth roads?
maybe b/c of the weather?
hot air can significantly reduce the performance. just my guess.
also high elevation can reduce the power from the engine, i've seen
0.8 sec 1/4 mile time difference due to diff. temp and diff. elevation with same car
hot air can significantly reduce the performance. just my guess.
also high elevation can reduce the power from the engine, i've seen
0.8 sec 1/4 mile time difference due to diff. temp and diff. elevation with same car
Originally Posted by RHMax
FSTB virtually eliminated my torque steer. I only get the very slight initial tug, and that's all. My car has about 5500 miles.
Originally Posted by NismoMax80
your forearms got a lot stronger.
I think maybe you're just used to it now. it kinda crossed my mind too. maybe once everything breaks in, it isn't as detrimental to the steering. or maybe the A/C running and hot air coming in reduces some power
My guess is that since it's expected, we grip harder and are in better control.
I think maybe you're just used to it now. it kinda crossed my mind too. maybe once everything breaks in, it isn't as detrimental to the steering. or maybe the A/C running and hot air coming in reduces some power

My guess is that since it's expected, we grip harder and are in better control.
When I first test drove a 2005 SE manual, I thought it seemed very strong. Later when I bought one, I took it easy the first 1000 miles or so and then the first time I did a WOT run (all within legal limits of course) I thought it was very (for a V6) strong. As time went on though, it seemed that it just didn't have the kick it used to (and at only 7,000 miles...easy going miles by far and large). Now I know the car didn't decline in any way (in fact, it problaby got a little stronger), but my perception of it's power did from being more aquainted with it.
My O4 torque was strong from day one until I traded it in at 50K miles - I was used to it, but it would still try and turn the wheel right out of my hands. I'm still breaking in the 05 - but it has TCS and I'm not sure if that will affect the torque under normal driving conditions or not...
Originally Posted by NismoMax80
i'm not sure that's possible. TS has nothing to do with body flex. it's the wheels propelling the car forward while being able to turn. I'm sure Nissan would have intalled one from the factory if it would eliminate it.
I think it is possible since the body flexes less as the wheels spin so the wheels are better planted on the ground. I tested my car right before I install the bar. My car had quite a bit of TS especially when the wheels are not straight when I gun it. After installation I took the car for a drive and the TS was reduced to a initial slight tug.
Originally Posted by brewboy13
I do know that I realized I had been using Jet Pep fuel (cheaper) for sometime now and they have 10% ethanol and the manual states no more than 5%. I am switching to better a brand. I have always used 93 octane, but the ethanol could have diminished it's performance. I am not sure but the lack of torque steering is puzzling. No matter how hard I get on it NONE 

I agree also that you are probably use to your car now. Try driving a beater type car then drive you Maxima. It will feel like a beast again.
As many have stated yes I am probably used to the car much more by now therefore the power is not as profound to me. However, the torque steering is gone period that is not in my head you can clearly see it. It is just odd that it has gone away
. To some they would love it but that was part of the fun imo. Anywho thanks for the input guys....
. To some they would love it but that was part of the fun imo. Anywho thanks for the input guys....
Originally Posted by brewboy13
As many have stated yes I am probably used to the car much more by now therefore the power is not as profound to me. However, the torque steering is gone period that is not in my head you can clearly see it. It is just odd that it has gone away
. To some they would love it but that was part of the fun imo. Anywho thanks for the input guys....
. To some they would love it but that was part of the fun imo. Anywho thanks for the input guys....You should take it to a dyno and confirm that it is either in your head, or a true power loss.
-MO-
The same thing has happened to me, but I believe I just modified my driving style to avoid the TS. The same with the turning radius when i first got the car I could'nt put it in the garage on the first try. In a week or so it was easy and now I don't even think about it.
on mine it seems less torquey...? also, I really just think it's preception that we all have as we've gotten used to the car. Mine still pulls hard through all the gears and runs like a scared rabbit...... and as far as wheel spin......wish I had limited slip....mmmmmm dreamin again........
There is even torque steer when I floor it on a Freeway going 65mph.
I think this monster has a bad bad torque steer.
But I can live with it. It makes me concentrate. lol
Maybe your TS disappeared cuz the tires are worn out and it's not gripping as good? less power on the front tires? :P
I think this monster has a bad bad torque steer.
But I can live with it. It makes me concentrate. lol
Maybe your TS disappeared cuz the tires are worn out and it's not gripping as good? less power on the front tires? :P
Torque Steer Is Gone!
Has anyone noticed that after about 2,000 miles the troque steer just about goes away?
I mean i know you can get used to it. But the other day i eased up on the steering wheel and gunned it, NO torque steer.
I mean i know you can get used to it. But the other day i eased up on the steering wheel and gunned it, NO torque steer.
I think I know what you are talking about as I have also noticed almost no TS after awhile of driving my car. Now I don't really drive it fast at all since I am trying to take good care of it and also where I live the roads are terrible with idiots as the common drivers seen around town. Anyhow, I did notice the TS when I first test drove the car and it really wasn't that bad at all. I can remember having a new corolla back in 92 that had way more TS to the point it was hard to handle and it didn't even have any horsepower either. I now have about 5500 miles on the car and hardly an TS is noticeable unless I am just used to it but I don't think so since I drive my wife's camry at least once a week and the only think I notice when I get back in my car is the difference in power and handling. One thing my car has started doing for the past 2k or so miles has been creaking and groaning when turning at slow speeds. I call it the Pirate Ship effect. Not sure why but it is a PITA and makes the car sound like an old beater when someone is in the car and says what the heck is that? If it keeps getting worse I may ask the dealer to check it out when I bring it in to rotate the tires soon.




