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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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Maxima to be hybrid

While googling for some plug-in hybrid info for the Prius (more info: http://www.calcars.org ), I stumbled across this page:

http://www.hybridcars.com/altima.html

Of most interest is the following quote:

Instead of focusing primarily on fuel economy and reduced emissions, Nissan will try to match the performance and acceleration of non-hybrid models. “Most hybrids focus on smaller engines with environmental benefits like emitting cleaner exhaust fumes but Nissan’s hybrid will also have the same driver performance and speed as any Altima,” said Kyle Bazemore, Nissan communications senior manager.

Jack Collins, director of product planning for Nissan, said, "This is an area of opportunity to bring new people into the Nissan franchise, as we make our lineup stronger and add hybrid offerings now in the pipeline with Altima and Maxima."
Could Nissan be applying similiar hybrid tech to the Maxima that they'll be featuring in the Skyline in 2008 (ie, focus on higher performance more so than lower emissions)?

Anyway, I have no idea when this article was written but it was interesting.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 06:14 AM
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well this would answer the "Why is the 06 not hyped-up and redesigned?" drama.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Monotaur
While googling for some plug-in hybrid info for the Prius (more info: http://www.calcars.org ), I stumbled across this page:

http://www.hybridcars.com/altima.html

Of most interest is the following quote:



Could Nissan be applying similiar hybrid tech to the Maxima that they'll be featuring in the Skyline in 2008 (ie, focus on higher performance more so than lower emissions)?

Anyway, I have no idea when this article was written but it was interesting.
I hope Nissan doesn't go the hybrid route. Especially not to the Skyline/GT-R (whatever it turns out to be).
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I hope Nissan doesn't go the hybrid route. Especially not to the Skyline/GT-R (whatever it turns out to be).
Honda did with the Accord and made it faster.... 240 standard v6 and 255 with Hybrid V6...........
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Yeah, from the article it sounds like Nissan might place a higher measure on improving performance rather than lowering gas consumption (actually, this would still probably give better performance/gas consumption though).

I've read that the Skyline will be a "hybrid", but again not so much for saving gas but getting more torque... a lot different than a Prius or Insight.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Nissan should really make fuel consumption a priority.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Honda did with the Accord and made it faster.... 240 standard v6 and 255 with Hybrid V6...........
HP != faster car.

It's slower in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile.

2004 Accord V6 Auto: 0-60 7.0 sec (http://modernracer.com/hondaaccordexcoupe.html)
2005 Accord V6 Auto Hybrid: 0-60 7.5 sec (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1653)

2004 Accord V6 Auto: 1/4 mile 14.5sec/98mph (http://modernracer.com/hondaaccordexcoupe.html)
2005 Accord V6 Auto Hybrid: 1/4 mile 16sec/89mph (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=104525)
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
HP != faster car.

It's slower in 0-60 and the 1/4 mile.

2004 Accord V6 Auto: 0-60 7.0 sec (http://modernracer.com/hondaaccordexcoupe.html)
2005 Accord V6 Auto Hybrid: 0-60 7.5 sec (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1653)

2004 Accord V6 Auto: 1/4 mile 14.5sec/98mph (http://modernracer.com/hondaaccordexcoupe.html)
2005 Accord V6 Auto Hybrid: 1/4 mile 16sec/89mph (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=104525)
Here we go, the magazine racer .....

FYI... I own a 2003 v6 accord auto sedan and a buddy owns a 2005 Hybrid accord, stock for stock he pulls on me and gets better gas mileage....

Also Donkey stop comparing the accord Coupe(2004 reference) to a Hybrid Sedan.....
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Honda Accord Hybrid - V6 3.0L gas-electric (255 hp) 5A + ABS 7.18 15.72 93.00

http://world.honda.com/news/2004/4040917.html

Even honda admits the times of 0-60 are faster.....
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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I honestly don't car how the future Max is powered, so long as the handling and performance characteristics keep improving, saving money on gas would just be a double bonus...
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
Here we go, the magazine racer .....
Hardly, just quoting sources.

Originally Posted by Cutler
FYI... I own a 2003 v6 accord auto sedan and a buddy owns a 2005 Hybrid accord, stock for stock he pulls on me and gets better gas mileage....
1) I should hope he gets better mileage.
2) Post the video on the weekend.


Originally Posted by Cutler
Also Donkey stop comparing the accord Coupe(2004 reference) to a Hybrid Sedan.....
Because as everyone knows there are vast performance differences.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
Honda Accord Hybrid - V6 3.0L gas-electric (255 hp) 5A + ABS 7.18 15.72 93.00

http://world.honda.com/news/2004/4040917.html

Even honda admits the times of 0-60 are faster.....
Believing manufacturer claims ... you poor poor soul.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
Here we go, the magazine racer .....

FYI... I own a 2003 v6 accord auto sedan and a buddy owns a 2005 Hybrid accord, stock for stock he pulls on me and gets better gas mileage....

Also Donkey stop comparing the accord Coupe(2004 reference) to a Hybrid Sedan.....
again.
yet he doesn't quit
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chernmax
I honestly don't car how the future Max is powered, so long as the handling and performance characteristics keep improving, saving money on gas would just be a double bonus...
You want double bonus ...? Cram in twin turbos then I'll
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
You want double bonus ...? Cram in twin turbos then I'll
Maybe a good idea for a 2 door Maxima Sport Coupe
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
again.
yet he doesn't quit
I know someone who could make him.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
Hardly, just quoting sources.


1) I should hope he gets better mileage.
2) Post the video on the weekend.



Because as everyone knows there are vast performance differences.
Sources not comparing apples to apples, therefore tainted sources.... The Hybrid is faster/quicker. Seen it and have driven it....

Again you magazine race, I did the real thing.... Next please.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
Believing manufacturer claims ... you poor poor soul.
Personal experiences override magazine jockies
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
Sources not comparing apples to apples, therefore tainted sources.... The Hybrid is faster/quicker. Seen it and have driven it....
...but can't prove it.

Originally Posted by Cutler
Again you magazine race, I did the real thing.... Next please.
Right, yet another thing you can't prove.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
Personal experiences override magazine jockies
Well heck, post the timeslip.

Or is this the part where you claim to live your life a 1/4 mile at a time.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
...but can't prove it.


Right, yet another thing you can't prove.
I can't prove the fact that I own a 2003? And I can't prove the fact my buddy has a 2005 Hybrid. NismoMax was right about you .
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
Well heck, post the timeslip.

Or is this the part where you claim to live your life a 1/4 mile at a time.
The 1/4 comment is funny, Vin Jr.....

My conclusion to your babbling, compare the 2 cars. Not a coupe versus a sedan. 2005 Hybrid v6 Sedan versus a 2005 v6 sedan, then your argument will have some weight or at least quote the same mag, Not Modern Racer
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
I can't prove the fact that I own a 2003? And I can't prove the fact my buddy has a 2005 Hybrid. NismoMax was right about you .
Show me timeslips between the two.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
The 1/4 comment is funny, Vin Jr.....

My conclusion to your babbling, compare the 2 cars. Not a coupe versus a sedan. 2005 Hybrid v6 Sedan versus a 2005 v6 sedan, then your argument will have some weight or at least quote the same mag, Not Modern Racer
2004 Accord Sedan
0-60: 6.84sec
1/4 mile: 15.34sec/95.70mph
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...cord&trimid=-1

2005 Accord Sedan Hybrid
0-60: 7.18sec
1/4 mile: 15.72sec/93mph
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...brid&trimid=-1

Any other F&tF wisdom you care to share..or are you gonna take it up a notch to 2F2F, Torque, or even Herbie the Love Bug...
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
2004 Accord Sedan
0-60: 6.84sec
1/4 mile: 15.34sec/95.70mph
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...cord&trimid=-1

2005 Accord Sedan Hybrid
0-60: 7.18sec
1/4 mile: 15.72sec/93mph
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...brid&trimid=-1

Any other F&tF wisdom you care to share..or are you gonna take it up a notch to 2F2F, Torque, or even Herbie the Love Bug...
For once you actually posted something of credibility. Remember mag racing is still mag racing, but according to these you are right. There are some accord 03 sedans running 14.5s, but hey the mag didn't say that so it must not be true, just like stock maximas running 14.1s at 99mph.... But again the mags didn't say it so it can't be so...

I concede I lost to the mags
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
For once you actually posted something of credibility.
You should read more often.

Originally Posted by Cutler
Remember mag racing is still mag racing, but according to these you are right.
No large surprise, but I still want to see timeslips.

Originally Posted by Cutler
There are some accord 03 sedans running 14.5s, but hey the mag didn't say that so it must not be true, just like stock maximas running 14.1s at 99mph.... But again the mags didn't say it so it can't be so...
If you have issues with what they wrote, go out and get your own timeslips and report back here.

Originally Posted by Cutler
I concede I lost to the mags
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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No large surprise, but I still want to see timeslips.

Timeslips of a street race? I want to race where you race at.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
You should read more often.


No large surprise, but I still want to see timeslips.



If you have issues with what they wrote, go out and get your own timeslips and report back here.


I rely on the opinion of my fellow moderator, Nismomax80.... I know what happened and that's all that matters. I don't spend alot of time in the 6th gen forums, I bought the accord because I liked it better than the 6th gen landtank....
-Not a fan of exploding Skyview roofs
-squeeking parts and windnoise
-Radios not working
-Design has lost the 4DSC feel
-Mainly the crappy Nissan Customer Service....
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by VG Ridah
Timeslips of a street race? I want to race where you race at.
I am not a streetracer, just a friendly run on a stretch of Interstate 66
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Glad everyone stayed on topic here.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by VG Ridah
Timeslips of a street race? I want to race where you race at.
Track ya genius.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
I rely on the opinion of my fellow moderator, Nismomax80.... I know what happened and that's all that matters. I don't spend alot of time in the 6th gen forums, I bought the accord because I liked it better than the 6th gen landtank....
FWIW, I test drove the 2004 Accord before getting the Max, and it's handling seemed way better and more straight-ahead and on track. The inside sucked - the pillars got in my way and the spedometer could be read from space.

-Not a fan of exploding Skyview roofs
Get the sunroof

-squeeking parts and windnoise
Haven't experienced either, and that's the first I've read about someone mentioning anything about windnoise.

-Radios not working
Hadn't heard that either.

-Design has lost the 4DSC feel
Hell, that's a selling point.

-Mainly the crappy Nissan Customer Service...
Varies from dealer to dealer. The local Honda place here in Waldorf sucks like Jenna.
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Originally Posted by Cutler
I am not a streetracer, just a friendly run on a stretch of Interstate 66
Not a bad stretch before 29. :
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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I66 is a very nice stretch, but stay out of the HOV lanes too many cops
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by belal242
I66 is a very nice stretch, but stay out of the HOV lanes too many cops
And they're either State or Fairfax.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cutler
I rely on the opinion of my fellow moderator, Nismomax80.... I know what happened and that's all that matters. I don't spend alot of time in the 6th gen forums, I bought the accord because I liked it better than the 6th gen landtank....
-Not a fan of exploding Skyview roofs
-squeeking parts and windnoise
-Radios not working
-Design has lost the 4DSC feel
-Mainly the crappy Nissan Customer Service....
Hey now, let's stay on topic here! You should have ridden with me to the Park, or I would have let ya drove. My first Max contridicts your lies



I love my Max... it's so rare.

Hey savage, you convienetly ignored his point about all the times posted by mags in the high 14's while we have 2 members almost breaking to 13s.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Hey savage, you convienetly ignored his point about all the times posted by mags in the high 14's while we have 2 members almost breaking to 13s.
Well, since nothing matters to the majority here unless there's a timeslip or a moderator approved dyno to back it up, then I'm just jumping on the bandwagon baby!
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Well, since nothing matters to the majority here unless there's a timeslip or a moderator approved dyno to back it up, then I'm just jumping on the bandwagon baby!
um, there are timeslips showing those Maxima times. I know why you demanded such. But your perspective is so screwed, so determined to always be right, you don't see why certain things are said.

when you're logic is proven wrong (Mags are not all possible fact) you try another arguement. Even the mags will write a correction section when proven wrong (although minute and hidden). You just seem that admitting you're wrong on any subject means death or something.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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um, there are timeslips showing those Maxima times. I know why you demanded such. But your perspective is so screwed, so determined to always be right, you don't see why certain things are said.
Um, I thought you meant Accords - f*** - can I have the Tard avatar for few days for this one? Being right or wrong is of mild importance, like most people - I don't want to waste my money on parts that won't benefit me.

Yeah, I've seen the timeslip for the 13.2 (I think) sec 6th Gen. I've also read where that type of machine is maybe - maybe - off for the 0-60 and 1/4 mile by at most 0.1 seconds. It's still impressive. My goal is under 13. I don't care if it's 12.9999999999999999999999999999 - I get bragging rights for having a 12 second Maxima.

Originally Posted by NismoMax80
when you're logic is proven wrong (Mags are not all possible fact) you try another arguement. Even the mags will write a correction section when proven wrong (although minute and hidden). You just seem that admitting you're wrong on any subject means death or something.
I'm not the one making wild claims about products, I'm just linking to what been shown about them. I'm certainly not going to discount something because a vendor or a publication has presented something in a method I don't care for.
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