View Poll Results: SE or SL and what is your age?
SE, I'm 20 or younger



77
9.08%
SE, I'm from 21 to 30



240
28.30%
SE, I'm from 31 to 40



151
17.81%
SE, I'm from 41 to 50



58
6.84%
SE, I'm 51 or older



47
5.54%
SL, I'm 20 or younger



36
4.25%
SL, I'm from 21 to 30



111
13.09%
SL, I'm from 31 to 40



76
8.96%
SL, I'm from 41 to 50



34
4.01%
SL, I'm 51 or older



18
2.12%
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SE or SL and age
More SE than SL
Originally Posted by chernmax
Looks like almost an even split on all age groups for both models, SE does seem too be the Max of choice however...
35 and a SL not really by my choice( wife liked the color of the HID headlights) actually went in to get a 3.5 alty but came home in the max. BTW she is pretty banged up from hurricane wilma(that bish) will show pics when i get home from tampa its like a battle zone around here in pompano beach........ laters
Originally Posted by MAXDOUT04
35 and a SL not really by my choice( wife liked the color of the HID headlights) actually went in to get a 3.5 alty but came home in the max. BTW she is pretty banged up from hurricane wilma(that bish) will show pics when i get home from tampa its like a battle zone around here in pompano beach........ laters
Warren
Originally Posted by RHMax
I see mid-life crisis on the graph
There are more 31-40 in SE's than SL's...
There are more 31-40 in SE's than SL's...I just turned 66 and bought the SE because I had to have a manual trannie -- got tired of auto trannie problems. I also have a Dodge Ram pickup with a 5 speed manual. I hate auto trannies -- nothing to do with age. There are a few of us old farts on this site. The best known is lightonthehill who knows more about Maximas than anyone else I've heard from here. And he explains things so well.
SilverMax - Sorry to let you down, but, after two decades of always opting for the Maxima with the firmest suspension, I have entered my 'Buick' phase; I own an SL.
I suppose that is a strong indication my next decision will be whether to go with senility or dementia. That could be tough, as I may soon enter that phase where I no longer have the ability to make decisions.
I have another 'letdown' for you; my 'expertise' on Maximas is little more than parroting what I have learned from over fifty-six years of driving. The last twenty have been in Maximas, but the first thirty-six were in Studebakers, Hudsons, Chevys, Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, Datsuns, etc. I actually got to drive a TerraPlane passenger car for one day back in the 1940s. I knew folks who drove Pierce-Arrows, Tuckers and Henry Js.
So always remember that any 'sage' advice I may post here just might be four or five decades out of date. Don't be surprised if your service manager laughs at a suggestion I may give you.
Of course, my second vehicle at this time is still my 2000 Maxima SE. I love everything about that car. But my bladder does not, so I use it for shorter trips, where I won't be too far from a toilet for too long a stretch.
The SL, on the other hand, floats down the Interstate forever without churning my innards. Great for long trips with my wife.
I told my wife that 'SL' stands for 'Senior Luxury'.
As for a manual tranny, that was all there was back 'in the day'. The first auto trannie I experienced was in my '55 Pontiac Bonneville. They were fairly primitive back then.
While driving Datsuns (which, in case there is someone who doesn't know, was the brand name used by Nissan until 1983/84) back in the 1970s, I always opted for manual trannies. But I counted the shifts on my way to work in Atlanta traffic one time back in the early 1980s (driving a 5 speed manual '78 Datsun 200SX), and realized I was changing gears over 1,000 times just getting to work and back (stop and go for over an hour each way). I decided that was more exercise for my right arm and left leg than I needed.
Enter the Maxima. The rest is history.
I suppose that is a strong indication my next decision will be whether to go with senility or dementia. That could be tough, as I may soon enter that phase where I no longer have the ability to make decisions.
I have another 'letdown' for you; my 'expertise' on Maximas is little more than parroting what I have learned from over fifty-six years of driving. The last twenty have been in Maximas, but the first thirty-six were in Studebakers, Hudsons, Chevys, Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, Datsuns, etc. I actually got to drive a TerraPlane passenger car for one day back in the 1940s. I knew folks who drove Pierce-Arrows, Tuckers and Henry Js.
So always remember that any 'sage' advice I may post here just might be four or five decades out of date. Don't be surprised if your service manager laughs at a suggestion I may give you.
Of course, my second vehicle at this time is still my 2000 Maxima SE. I love everything about that car. But my bladder does not, so I use it for shorter trips, where I won't be too far from a toilet for too long a stretch.
The SL, on the other hand, floats down the Interstate forever without churning my innards. Great for long trips with my wife.
I told my wife that 'SL' stands for 'Senior Luxury'.
As for a manual tranny, that was all there was back 'in the day'. The first auto trannie I experienced was in my '55 Pontiac Bonneville. They were fairly primitive back then.
While driving Datsuns (which, in case there is someone who doesn't know, was the brand name used by Nissan until 1983/84) back in the 1970s, I always opted for manual trannies. But I counted the shifts on my way to work in Atlanta traffic one time back in the early 1980s (driving a 5 speed manual '78 Datsun 200SX), and realized I was changing gears over 1,000 times just getting to work and back (stop and go for over an hour each way). I decided that was more exercise for my right arm and left leg than I needed.
Enter the Maxima. The rest is history.
Originally Posted by 04RedOpMax
Hi, Grandpa! 

Chk this out.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=436621
PM me when you look at it.
SilverMax 04 I quess where you live its wide open country. I had a few manual cars in my day. But here in NYC the stop and go traffic is a killer. Its nice to know that there are some of us old timers around. The nycmaximas club I belong to, I could either be the father or grandfather to most of the members. But they are a bunch of great guys and girls and it keeps me young.
Peace
Warren
Peace
Warren
Originally Posted by ramberg
Besides the car I hope you and your wife are OK.
Warren
Warren
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
SilverMax - Sorry to let you down, but, after two decades of always opting for the Maxima with the firmest suspension, I have entered my 'Buick' phase; I own an SL.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I suppose that is a strong indication my next decision will be whether to go with senility or dementia. That could be tough, as I may soon enter that phase where I no longer have the ability to make decisions.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I have another 'letdown' for you; my 'expertise' on Maximas is little more than parroting what I have learned from over fifty-six years of driving. The last twenty have been in Maximas, but the first thirty-six were in Studebakers, Hudsons, Chevys, Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, Datsuns, etc. I actually got to drive a TerraPlane passenger car for one day back in the 1940s. I knew folks who drove Pierce-Arrows, Tuckers and Henry Js.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
So always remember that any 'sage' advice I may post here just might be four or five decades out of date. Don't be surprised if your service manager laughs at a suggestion I may give you.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
The SL, on the other hand, floats down the Interstate forever without churning my innards. Great for long trips with my wife. I told my wife that 'SL' stands for 'Senior Luxury'.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
As for a manual tranny, that was all there was back 'in the day'. The first auto trannie I experienced was in my '55 Pontiac Bonneville. They were fairly primitive back then.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
While driving Datsuns (which, in case there is someone who doesn't know, was the brand name used by Nissan until 1983/84) back in the 1970s, I always opted for manual trannies. But I counted the shifts on my way to work in Atlanta traffic one time back in the early 1980s (driving a 5 speed manual '78 Datsun 200SX), and realized I was changing gears over 1,000 times just getting to work and back (stop and go for over an hour each way). I decided that was more exercise for my right arm and left leg than I needed.
I enjoyed our little conversation.
Originally Posted by ramberg
SilverMax 04 I quess where you live its wide open country. Peace Warren
Addendum: Our paper today had an article that complained about the large size of "town": "Colorado Springs covers 185.7 Sq miles according to the Census Bureau, much larger than some cities with more people. Denver for example covers 153.4 Sq miles. Seattle is 83.9 and San Francisco is 46.7. These figures don't account for suburbs, so those metro areas are larger than Colorado Springs."
The population here certainly is more reasonable than Chicago, where I lived for 35 years. Back then, I did commute on the Illinois tollway in a Celica with a manual trannie the last 5 years I worked. It was not as easy a commute as riding the train downtown -- which I did for about 30 years. See my post to light (just above) on a thinking trannie.
SilverMax_04 - You were clearly more astute than I back in the 1950s. I did not remember which GM makes used hydramatic and which used dynaflow.
In fact, I was so dumb back then that on a trip from Bel Air MD (northeast of Baltimore) to Sierra Vista AZ, carrying my wife and my worldly belongings in a 1953 Chevy 210 (base sedan), a tire blew out.
And why was a blown tire so dumb? Because there was no tread left on the tire, and it had blown through the center of a football-shaped worn part of the tread where every one of the standard (at that time) four plys was worn thru. The effect looked like four footballs within each other.
The guy at the service station just stared at the tire and stared at me. Then he mumbled something to the effect that it might be a good idea to check my tires every year.
I made that same trip from Bel Air to Sierra Vista a year later in my '55 Pontiac, and it caught on fire three times enroute, due to the ground cable from the bottom of the engine block to the chassi being broken, which opened the electrical circuit, which made the generator (now known as alternator) run full tilt until it overheated and caught fire.
No one was able to spot the problem because that ground cable was enclosed in a sheath, so the break was not visible.
Three new generators, three new voltage regulators and three new batteries on one trip. All paid for out of my very generous U.S. Army salary. Don't even bother to ask what that salary was.
I could relate some real horror stories about my experiences with cars in the distant past. But these don't really belong on the 6th gen board.
I could be wrong, but I can't help but feel my experiences with cars back in that era make me so very appreciative of the wonderful reliability I am getting in every Maxima I have ever owned.
And that brings me back to the thread: Considering looks, performance, interior room, amenities and overall comfort, my '04 SL is easily the best car I have driven in my 56 years on the road. I absolutely love it.
In fact, I was so dumb back then that on a trip from Bel Air MD (northeast of Baltimore) to Sierra Vista AZ, carrying my wife and my worldly belongings in a 1953 Chevy 210 (base sedan), a tire blew out.
And why was a blown tire so dumb? Because there was no tread left on the tire, and it had blown through the center of a football-shaped worn part of the tread where every one of the standard (at that time) four plys was worn thru. The effect looked like four footballs within each other.
The guy at the service station just stared at the tire and stared at me. Then he mumbled something to the effect that it might be a good idea to check my tires every year.
I made that same trip from Bel Air to Sierra Vista a year later in my '55 Pontiac, and it caught on fire three times enroute, due to the ground cable from the bottom of the engine block to the chassi being broken, which opened the electrical circuit, which made the generator (now known as alternator) run full tilt until it overheated and caught fire.
No one was able to spot the problem because that ground cable was enclosed in a sheath, so the break was not visible.
Three new generators, three new voltage regulators and three new batteries on one trip. All paid for out of my very generous U.S. Army salary. Don't even bother to ask what that salary was.
I could relate some real horror stories about my experiences with cars in the distant past. But these don't really belong on the 6th gen board.
I could be wrong, but I can't help but feel my experiences with cars back in that era make me so very appreciative of the wonderful reliability I am getting in every Maxima I have ever owned.
And that brings me back to the thread: Considering looks, performance, interior room, amenities and overall comfort, my '04 SL is easily the best car I have driven in my 56 years on the road. I absolutely love it.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
SilverMax_04 - You were clearly more astute than I back in the 1950s. I did not remember which GM makes used hydramatic and which used dynaflow.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
And why was a blown tire so dumb? Because there was no tread left on the tire, and it had blown through the center of a football-shaped worn part of the tread where every one of the standard (at that time) four plys was worn thru. The effect looked like four footballs within each other.
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I could be wrong, but I can't help but feel my experiences with cars back in that era make me so very appreciative of the wonderful reliability I am getting in every Maxima I have ever owned. And that brings me back to the thread: Considering looks, performance, interior room, amenities and overall comfort, my '04 SL is easily the best car I have driven in my 56 years on the road. I absolutely love it.
Originally Posted by MAXDOUT04
Ramberg, thank you for the concern and the wife and i are just fine but after watching the storm hit and destroying my car i said to my wife lets just get the hell out of here for a while so we went north of tampa to a town called spring hill where my wife has friends so till it comes back to some sort of being normal in our area im up here for atleast a week or so( no electric or gasoline which means no job for right now but we are safe and it's like a mini vacation) and im hoping that your family down here in plantation is okay as well again thank you for the concern.
Thanks
Warren
Originally Posted by SilverMax_04
Addendum: Our paper today had an article that complained about the large size of "town": "Colorado Springs covers 185.7 Sq miles according to the Census Bureau, much larger than some cities with more people. Denver for example covers 153.4 Sq miles. Seattle is 83.9 and San Francisco is 46.7. These figures don't account for suburbs, so those metro areas are larger than Colorado Springs."
Population, total: 8,085,742
Brooklyn where I live has a population of about 2,267,942 and about 71 sq. mi.
Peace
Warren
Roots
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I could relate some real horror stories about my experiences with cars in the distant past. But these don't really belong on the 6th gen board.
I could be wrong, but I can't help but feel my experiences with cars back in that era make me so very appreciative of the wonderful reliability I am getting in every Maxima I have ever owned.
And that brings me back to the thread: Considering looks, performance, interior room, amenities and overall comfort, my '04 SL is easily the best car I have driven in my 56 years on the road. I absolutely love it.
I could be wrong, but I can't help but feel my experiences with cars back in that era make me so very appreciative of the wonderful reliability I am getting in every Maxima I have ever owned.
And that brings me back to the thread: Considering looks, performance, interior room, amenities and overall comfort, my '04 SL is easily the best car I have driven in my 56 years on the road. I absolutely love it.
Though I don't have quite as many years on the road as you, I very much enjoy driving the Maxima too. Like you, my (2005) SL is the best car I have driven.
wsu - Sage? Humble? Could I ask you to repeat those remarks to my wife? But hold on a minute while I finish taking out the garbage and vacuuming the house.
You must have gotten the 'humble' from finding out about my long hot summers in the early 1950s working in the carding room of the White Mountain Laundry on South McQuesten Parkway in White Plains, NY (on the edge of the Bronx).
There was no AC in those days, and when the temp inside reached 120 degrees, folks were free to leave if desired. But I had only the three summer months in which to earn enough to pay my college expenses for nine months, so had to stay.
I was carding wool blankets, so I was covered with sweat and prickly wool from 7AM to 5PM every miserable day. And my room was in the loft of a boarding house operated by an old German couple at 689 East 243rd Street in the Bronx. No AC, and I shared a small bath with six other boarders.
So yes, the 6th gen Maxima may seem somewhat plusher to me than to some.
6th gen Maximas are now very commonplace around where I live south of Atlanta. Two years ago, I saw mostly SEs around here. Now, I see just as many SLs. I actually spoke to drivers of two SLs today when we crossed paths in parking lots. Both had big smiles on their faces. Both loved their cars. BOTH WERE PARKING IN THE SHADE AT THE FAR REACHES OF SPARSELY FILLED LOTS, JUST AS I WAS DOING. No dings, please.
I have been driving my '04 SL a little more aggressively lately when I find myself on a back road with sparse traffic. I am still feeling no torque steer. Not that I mind TS that much; it is sort of a hint of power under the hood.
I am very impressed with the lack of any lag when I touch the gas pedal; instant power. Although the acceleration is strong, it is very smooth; no jerking or rough shifting. And the steering is precise. The first time I saw the 6th gen, I thought it looked too 'bulky' to be maneuverable. I was wrong. This car is very agile, and seems to enjoy curvy roads.
My wife and I were looking at the interior of our SL out in the bright sunlight today (my half of the garage is temporarily occupied by furniture I am refinishing), and we were both impressed by the quality, fit, and attention to detail of everything. And this is a vehicle made in the US, not Japan.
But I am rambling again, wasting server space; the moderator will probably forward the monthly Maxima.org server bill to me.
You must have gotten the 'humble' from finding out about my long hot summers in the early 1950s working in the carding room of the White Mountain Laundry on South McQuesten Parkway in White Plains, NY (on the edge of the Bronx).
There was no AC in those days, and when the temp inside reached 120 degrees, folks were free to leave if desired. But I had only the three summer months in which to earn enough to pay my college expenses for nine months, so had to stay.
I was carding wool blankets, so I was covered with sweat and prickly wool from 7AM to 5PM every miserable day. And my room was in the loft of a boarding house operated by an old German couple at 689 East 243rd Street in the Bronx. No AC, and I shared a small bath with six other boarders.
So yes, the 6th gen Maxima may seem somewhat plusher to me than to some.
6th gen Maximas are now very commonplace around where I live south of Atlanta. Two years ago, I saw mostly SEs around here. Now, I see just as many SLs. I actually spoke to drivers of two SLs today when we crossed paths in parking lots. Both had big smiles on their faces. Both loved their cars. BOTH WERE PARKING IN THE SHADE AT THE FAR REACHES OF SPARSELY FILLED LOTS, JUST AS I WAS DOING. No dings, please.
I have been driving my '04 SL a little more aggressively lately when I find myself on a back road with sparse traffic. I am still feeling no torque steer. Not that I mind TS that much; it is sort of a hint of power under the hood.
I am very impressed with the lack of any lag when I touch the gas pedal; instant power. Although the acceleration is strong, it is very smooth; no jerking or rough shifting. And the steering is precise. The first time I saw the 6th gen, I thought it looked too 'bulky' to be maneuverable. I was wrong. This car is very agile, and seems to enjoy curvy roads.
My wife and I were looking at the interior of our SL out in the bright sunlight today (my half of the garage is temporarily occupied by furniture I am refinishing), and we were both impressed by the quality, fit, and attention to detail of everything. And this is a vehicle made in the US, not Japan.
But I am rambling again, wasting server space; the moderator will probably forward the monthly Maxima.org server bill to me.
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,197
From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
Originally Posted by RuMax96
26 w/ an SL. i wanted to get an SE but the dealership i went to didn't have any SEs w/ xenon or leather. i'm getting old anyways
, might as well get an SL
, might as well get an SL
. 26 is getting old, please...
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Maybe you need to move out of Florida, all the retiree's are affecting your judgement . 26 is getting old, please...
Maybe you need to move out of Florida, all the retiree's are affecting your judgement . 26 is getting old, please...
Grow up!?
Originally Posted by RuMax96
i know, it sounds crazy, but i have issues w/ getting older, i don't know why but i just don't want to... 

I must wholeheartedly echo the sentiments of others who assert that 26 is not old, though in many respects age is relative.
Yes, 26 is not too old. I don't remember turning 26, but I am sure it was not a traumatic event.
For that matter, I don't remember my 70th birthday, either. But again, I'm sure it was not a traumatic event. I was still shooting jump shots at 70, but now move further behind the three point line and shoot long treys. Gets away from the defender and saves stress on my knees.
The wonderful thing about the Maxima is that it can be enjoyed at any age. I loved the first Maxima I saw a quarter century ago, and have owned nothing else for over two decades.
I fully intend to be driving Maximas when I am 95, but have already agreed with my wife that, whether a competent driver or not, I will hand her the keys to my Maxima when I turn 96. She will be my Maxima chauffeur from that point on.
My wife and I will be spending this entire week at the courthouse (jury duty). We park our SL in a conspicuous spot, and can't help but notice every head that passes seems to turn and look at our clean, shiny Maxima. Warm. Fuzzy.
For that matter, I don't remember my 70th birthday, either. But again, I'm sure it was not a traumatic event. I was still shooting jump shots at 70, but now move further behind the three point line and shoot long treys. Gets away from the defender and saves stress on my knees.
The wonderful thing about the Maxima is that it can be enjoyed at any age. I loved the first Maxima I saw a quarter century ago, and have owned nothing else for over two decades.
I fully intend to be driving Maximas when I am 95, but have already agreed with my wife that, whether a competent driver or not, I will hand her the keys to my Maxima when I turn 96. She will be my Maxima chauffeur from that point on.
My wife and I will be spending this entire week at the courthouse (jury duty). We park our SL in a conspicuous spot, and can't help but notice every head that passes seems to turn and look at our clean, shiny Maxima. Warm. Fuzzy.




and I have an se.