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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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My husband bought me a remote start system for my birthday...very cool. He got it at circuit city, the brand is Valet. With installation it was $150. Plus, there is an extra part that was needed to bypass the chip that's in the nissan key, total cost is $273. Has anyone out there had any experience with this system. Can you give me feedback? Is there anything special I need to talk with the installers about? I'm a little nervous about the installation aspect of this. Thanks.
Old Nov 28, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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The maximas key has a chip imbedded in it which has to be bypassed. They usually take one of your keys from you and use it so the car thinks the key is in the ignition. I believe the module that is needed is something like a 556u or something like that. Most cars with a transponder key need these types of boxes installed. This is normal nowadays. I would probably go for an alarm/remote starter just in case someone tries to break into your car atleast the alarm would sound off.
Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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You probably have a valet 561r which can be installed utilizing the factory keyless entry.....I think that's a nice feature to have....they just have to program the lock wire to the number of activation pulses to start the vehicle with the nissan remote...if they don't know how to do that they're amatuers......
Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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I got the Python 881xp Remote start with security through circuit city cuz i work there. You will need the "Immobilizer Bypass Module" its made by directed electronics and roughly costs about $50-60. This allows them to install the remote start function.
Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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How about this one? Not bad for $200.

http://www.caraudio-caralarms.com/554r_lcd.html
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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not to shabby
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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if u had a remote start that is not done by the dealer can u still roll the window with the remote and can everthing be on the factory remote, meaning windows, alarm, and starter
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nimax05
if u had a remote start that is not done by the dealer can u still roll the window with the remote and can everthing be on the factory remote, meaning windows, alarm, and starter
yup..........
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:27 AM
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Thanks everyone. We're going today to have it installed. I'll let you know how it goes.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Great.....let us know how it turns out......
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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I got the remote start installed yesterday, it took them 8 hours. The installer was gone by the time we got there so I didn't have a chance to ask him what the problem was. I think I'm going to like this but time will tell. One drawback.......gotta carry 2 remotes. The Valet remote doesn't do the trunk, unlocks all doors at once and does not lower the windows. There are a few things that will take some getting used to; when you get in the car you must put the key in the ignition and turn it to the right position otherwise when you put your foot on the brake the car shuts off. Also, the doors will lock automatically when you get in and shut the door. That's one of the things I liked about the Maxima, the door didn't auto lock when you started to drive.
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We attempted to have a remote start put into our 05 on 11/18 by a local audio/alarm/etc shop. They screwed something up, now it won't start at all. It's been sitting at the Nissan dealership for the last 12 days on a waiting list with 18 other people to get the broken part replaced. The part was supposed to be shipped in today, but now we just found out that it won't be shipped until 12/18. After raising quite the raucous at the dealership, they finally agreed to pull the busted part off of one of the cars on the lot. They told us we should have it by Monday (12/5).

We called the local shop and asked them what they were going to "do" about the this, hoping to at least have a couple bux knocked off, maybe upgrade it to better unit or throw in some window tinting (which we were going to have done anyway)... his response was, "Oh don't worry, you shouldn't have to pay anything to have part fixed" Wait a second, we don't expect to pay a dime to fix what they broke!!! It looks like we're just going to tell them to bite it and we'll take it somewhere else.

Here's the best part: The assured us that a 05 Maxima wouldn't be a problem, that they do tons of them. After they messed it up, their changed their tune to, "They must have changed something between 04 and 05, and as a result, we cut the wrong wire." From everything I can find on the internet, everything between 04 and 05 should be the same right?

So, does anyone have any recommendations? What kind, where, who? The standard remote start is fine, but something with some feedback (tell us that the car started without looking at the parking lights or exhaust) would be nice.

To keep it relative to the thread I hope that whoever does it or whatever system we have put in doesn't mess up the features. We love the dual seat adjustments that are linked to the remotes and windows down feature. And what's the deal about the doors locking automatically?
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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The best thing to install is the valet 561T....it's an add-on remote start to a factory keyless entry system......no extra pads to carry around and at the same time all your factory functions stay intact.....I run a expeditor service here in Charleston for all the car dealerships and install these units on a daily basis.....we can do it in about 1 to 1 1/2 hours.....
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WoW I do wish you lived closer to Jersey. I could have done that system or a step above for less money. Although more importantly it would Not have taken 8Hours (unbelieveable time) and you would not need two remotes on your keychain. The unit that they used is fully capable of doing the trunk release. Its a one wire connection. The windows would depend on the model they installed, whether one or two additional channels were available. I do windows as a standard on all 2K2s and up. Whehter just down, or up/down. This would depend on the model Im doing.
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Originally Posted by install30
The best thing to install is the valet 561T....it's an add-on remote start to a factory keyless entry system......no extra pads to carry around and at the same time all your factory functions stay intact.....I run a expeditor service here in Charleston for all the car dealerships and install these units on a daily basis.....we can do it in about 1 to 1 1/2 hours.....
Although convenient, I have to disagree for distance. I hear nothing but complaints about range when using the factory remote.
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We attempted to have a remote start put into our 05 on 11/18 by a local audio/alarm/etc shop. They screwed something up, now it won't start at all. It's been sitting at the Nissan dealership for the last 12 days on a waiting list with 18 other people to get the broken part replaced. The part was supposed to be shipped in today, but now we just found out that it won't be shipped until 12/18. After raising quite the raucous at the dealership, they finally agreed to pull the busted part off of one of the cars on the lot. They told us we should have it by Monday (12/5).

We called the local shop and asked them what they were going to "do" about the this, hoping to at least have a couple bux knocked off, maybe upgrade it to better unit or throw in some window tinting (which we were going to have done anyway)... his response was, "Oh don't worry, you shouldn't have to pay anything to have part fixed" Wait a second, we don't expect to pay a dime to fix what they broke!!! It looks like we're just going to tell them to bite it and we'll take it somewhere else.

Here's the best part: The assured us that a 05 Maxima wouldn't be a problem, that they do tons of them. After they messed it up, their changed their tune to, "They must have changed something between 04 and 05, and as a result, we cut the wrong wire." From everything I can find on the internet, everything between 04 and 05 should be the same right?

So, does anyone have any recommendations? What kind, where, who? The standard remote start is fine, but something with some feedback (tell us that the car started without looking at the parking lights or exhaust) would be nice.

To keep it relative to the thread I hope that whoever does it or whatever system we have put in doesn't mess up the features. We love the dual seat adjustments that are linked to the remotes and windows down feature. And what's the deal about the doors locking automatically?
Sorry to hear about your experience. Unfortunately theres a ton of shops that will tell you "yea we did a ton of those before" just to gain your confidence and money.

Sidenote..for a remote start there is nothing different between '04s and '05s. Yes I have actually done a few.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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O.k., noticed a problem today. The climate controls are not working properly. The air comes out either cold or hot, no inbetween and the dividing line is 61/62 degrees. Also, the air comes out full blast no matter what the temp is set to, I have to manually turn it down. If I set the drivers side to 61 is't HOT, then I set the passenger side to 62 and it's COLD. What's up with that? Could it be coincidence that something broke at the same time as the installation of the remote start? Or did the installer mess something up. Hmmmmm. Gotta make some calls.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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I took it back to Circuit City, it was something that they did not plug back in. I also had then install the toggle switch that come with the unit. I was told that it was something that they don't normally do. But shoot, it's a safety feature, I wanted it installed. Did that yesterday, now the remote start won't work at all! I was so nervous about them working on my Maxima, now I have to take it back again.
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Hey Hey!!!

Originally Posted by install30
The best thing to install is the valet 561T....it's an add-on remote start to a factory keyless entry system......no extra pads to carry around and at the same time all your factory functions stay intact.....I run a expeditor service here in Charleston for all the car dealerships and install these units on a daily basis.....we can do it in about 1 to 1 1/2 hours.....
Can I get one of those from you? Do you have install instructions? How do you start the car with the stock remote and uhmmm..... oh yeah how much is it and will it work on a 6Spd?

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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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That switch they installed is a safety switch.....make sure it's in the right position......if it's not, it won't start......
Old Dec 10, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Can I get one of those from you? Do you have install instructions? How do you start the car with the stock remote and uhmmm..... oh yeah how much is it and will it work on a 6Spd?

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It piggy-backs off the lock motor wire of your factory keyless entry system, just needs to programed to the number of pulses you want it to activate to, it can be installed on any car but I would highly recommend not installing on any manual transmissions.....just for safety reasons, unless you keep your car in neutral all the time.....my friend installed one in his CRX, manual tranny of course, and he accidentally started it and proceeded through his garage door.....true story.....imagine if there was standing in front of the vehicle....
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Originally Posted by install30
It piggy-backs off the lock motor wire of your factory keyless entry system, just needs to programed to the number of pulses you want it to activate to, it can be installed on any car but I would highly recommend not installing on any manual transmissions.....just for safety reasons, unless you keep your car in neutral all the time.....my friend installed one in his CRX, manual tranny of course, and he accidentally started it and proceeded through his garage door.....true story.....imagine if there was standing in front of the vehicle....
LOL, I usually just pull on the ebrake and leave it in neutral when i park the ride. Where can i get this gadget and how does it work. I press the lock button twice and boom it starts?

I want one. I want one now. Its -15C here and I hate going into a frozen car.

Kam
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My fantastic husband found out what was wrong and he fixed it. They had put the toggle switch in the fuse box and when the guy was showing it to me he must have pulled a wire loose. Anyway, my husband soldered the wires and now it's working great. I did notice something that needs extra attention. When I went to start it Saturday before he fixed it, I got out of the car too quickly and shut the door. The doors locked!!! Good thing I was at home and was able to use the extra remote. I don't like the auto locking feature at all.
Old Dec 12, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
LOL, I usually just pull on the ebrake and leave it in neutral when i park the ride. Where can i get this gadget and how does it work. I press the lock button twice and boom it starts?

I want one. I want one now. Its -15C here and I hate going into a frozen car.

Kam
pm me...I'll ship you one.....do you use paypal?
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Originally Posted by install30
It piggy-backs off the lock motor wire of your factory keyless entry system, just needs to programed to the number of pulses you want it to activate to, it can be installed on any car but I would highly recommend not installing on any manual transmissions.....just for safety reasons, unless you keep your car in neutral all the time.....my friend installed one in his CRX, manual tranny of course, and he accidentally started it and proceeded through his garage door.....true story.....imagine if there was standing in front of the vehicle....
Since we are on a Maxima forum, please elaborate on "safety issues".
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Since we are on a Maxima forum, please elaborate on "safety issues".
If the car is in gear when you press start the car will jump then stall. I have seen this be as much as a few feet even with my e-break on, and that was in my 87 Max (and yes I was testing it) which has no where near the same amount of kick that the 6th gen has.

What I have seen ppl do, is install a magnatic switch to check if the car is in gear and if so not start it.
Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Well actually on the 6th gen, there is a wire that you can use as your neutral safety switch. It is behind the glove box and is only ground when you have the car in neutral. I forgot which wire it is but, I'll look tomorrow when I get a chance.

I used that wire in combination with my ebrake wire, to send a negative to my neutral safety switch wire. Even if the car is left in neutral, the car won't remote start unless the ebake is up.

I've had no problems at all with the setup.
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Well actually on the 6th gen, there is a wire that you can use as your neutral safety switch. It is behind the glove box and is only ground when you have the car in neutral. I forgot which wire it is but, I'll look tomorrow when I get a chance.

I used that wire in combination with my ebrake wire, to send a negative to my neutral safety switch wire. Even if the car is left in neutral, the car won't remote start unless the ebake is up.

I've had no problems at all with the setup.
cool thanks.. and yea.. there would have to be because you can not set the program for the seats and such unless it is in neutral.
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My fantastic husband found out what was wrong and he fixed it. They had put the toggle switch in the fuse box and when the guy was showing it to me he must have pulled a wire loose. Anyway, my husband soldered the wires and now it's working great. I did notice something that needs extra attention. When I went to start it Saturday before he fixed it, I got out of the car too quickly and shut the door. The doors locked!!! Good thing I was at home and was able to use the extra remote. I don't like the auto locking feature at all.

I have had 3 different types of Remote Starts in the past, and the one i am using is the Code Alarm, made by DEI. The best Alarms and Remote starts on the market. Anyways, there are normally 2 manuals that go with the Alarm, one for installers and one for you to activate codes that are availible on your remote. Like pressing 2 buttons together gets a result, or pressing another twice, and so on...

When i got my alarm installed by CARTOY's they had to program different features on it, to my spec. My remote program has like 80+ settings, YEAH CRAZY, but really cool. Normally the installers will do the minimal settings, and leave off the rest. They are supposed to ask you want you want, but that never happens. You will have to tinker with it after a few days of the install to get what you want, which means multiple trips back and forth to where you got the install... I bought the protection plan (4) year, for like 60.00, on a 800.00 install... and if i never use the plan i get my money back at the end of its life. Getting off subject here.

One of my problems after install was the auto lock, and also when i turned off my car the doors didnt auto unlock... ARG!!! Since my specific set-up has those 80+ setting they used my remote and a VERY COMPLICATED PRESSING AND CONFIRMING method to PROGRAM it into the unit.. I watched them do it, and after about 100+ beep and whistles it worked. Most alarms are made this way. After they plug in there compture for progaming to your system, it goes into PROGRAM MODE, and away it goes.. I still have to go back for my Glass break sensor, its too sensitive, so i have to put part of my system into bypass from my remote by pressing it a few times on the locking button. I have 2 remotes (THANK GOD), used to have one with each system, one LCD type and one regular... Good luck..

OH, yeah here is a tip if you have (2) remotes. This sometimes works, and i have done this to prove it.. IF you lock you keys in your car, and the other is at home, or someone has it, and you have a cell phone, they can hit your remote at the other end, and they can unlock your car, by you holding you cell close to the hood, or near the car (hold phone toward car)... Note, i said that it sometimes works. I had to try it a couple of times, but it did work. Have them hold down the unlock button for a long time, or press it alot of times, again holding the remote close to the reciever.
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Code alarm is NOT made by DEI, in fact its made by Audiovox. Also hardly the "best". Please dont bring down DEIs name with that misleading info.
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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My understanding of the toggle switch is that it's way to manually shut off of the remote start function. In other words, if you park your car in the garage and the door is down you don't want it started accidently risking carbon monoxide poisoning. Also, when working under the hood, you wouldn't want the car to start while someone has their hands near the fan. I don't think this toggle switch had anything to do with manual vs automatic transmissions.
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hmm

so basically can one of thease things f.... up my ride. Ooooo i wish it could roll up my windows also, i can roll them down but not up.:S weirdness.
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
so basically can one of thease things f.... up my ride. Ooooo i wish it could roll up my windows also, i can roll them down but not up.:S weirdness.

No, not if done right.

Why cant you roll them up?
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I dliek a remote start, but ive went out and started the car in low teen temps and at idle the car can sit for 15 mins and not get warm
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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Starting the car from inside the warm house is still better than going out in the cold to do it. When using the remote start the car will run for 12 minutes, then shut itself off. This can be adjusted.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
No, not if done right.

Why cant you roll them up?
On the sixth gen, there is a feature where if you hold the unlock button on the keyfob for 3 seconds the two front windows start rolling down until you release the button. However they do not close back up like they do on the Elite Package (4 seater). I want that feature on my ride, along with the ability to start it remotly using the stock keyfob.

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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
On the sixth gen, there is a feature where if you hold the unlock button on the keyfob for 3 seconds the two front windows start rolling down until you release the button. However they do not close back up like they do on the Elite Package (4 seater). I want that feature on my ride, along with the ability to start it remotly using the stock keyfob.

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Im familiar with how the 6th gen works as Ive done a few of them. Although when I was done windows went up AND down via remote. This is with an aftermarket system though.
Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Code alarm is NOT made by DEI, in fact its made by Audiovox. Also hardly the "best". Please dont bring down DEIs name with that misleading info.

Crap.... i thought it wa a DEI.. Thats all i ever owned.. OH, well.. thanks for clearing that up. I own (2) Viper Alarm system by DEI.. The one i have now is a great set-up though. Havent had any probs with it, and its the newest on the market for them.
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So when you put the aftermarket alarm in you could roll your windows up and down. Why is that? I would like to be able to roll mines up and down.
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So when you put the aftermarket alarm in you could roll your windows up and down. Why is that? I would like to be able to roll mines up and down.

I use additional channels from the alarm set to validity for this function.



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