New discovery on 6th Gen Auto tranny!

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12-24-2005, 01:12 PM

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New discovery on 6th Gen Auto tranny!

Not sure if anyone has done this but:

If you switch to manual shift on the automatic and actually hold the shift down(-) the engine will go ALL THE WAY TO REDLINE AND WILL NOT SHIFT! I was amazed. Try this at your own risk.

12-24-2005, 01:23 PM

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nice to know... how did you find out lol......

12-24-2005, 01:24 PM

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lol thats hott ....

12-24-2005, 01:27 PM

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That's cool! So you just hold it down for a second or two, then the gear will hold indefinitely? I wonder if it would actually stall the car if you're geared too high and slowing to a stop...?

12-24-2005, 02:44 PM

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You hold the shift down(-) for as long as you want. The rev limiter will kick in at about 6500 rpms, maybe a little more. Let the shifter go and it will kick to the next gear. 3rd gear may get a little extra power when you do it in 2nd. I haven't done it in 3rd yet cause I discovered it on a service road, too much traffic and lights to redline it in 3rd.

12-24-2005, 02:48 PM

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Funny thing, I discovered it with my girl in the car. Needless to say, I was a little worried.

Oh yeah, my AEM intake sounds sick when I bang the redline.

12-24-2005, 02:56 PM

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I wonder if this will work on the dyno ...

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12-24-2005, 03:01 PM

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I wonder if this will work on the dyno ...

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good idea... keep that in mind when anyone goes to the dyno again..

12-24-2005, 03:52 PM

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oh, now we learn this after I go to the track....

now I have to go as soon as it opens again

12-24-2005, 04:40 PM

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Good to know, anyone else tried it also?

12-24-2005, 05:54 PM

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so you guys upshift, then hold it down? wont that downshift it back to the gear you were in?

12-24-2005, 07:05 PM

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so you guys upshift, then hold it down? wont that downshift it back to the gear you were in?

No no no, I'm not talking downshifting

Say you're at a stop. Accelerate with the shifter pulled down(-) and the car will go all the way to redline and won't shift. Let go and it will kick to 2nd. Pull back and hold again quickly and the car won't downshift. You can do this all the way to redline!

12-24-2005, 07:22 PM

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yeah, I just tried this and its awesome.... It sounds like a beast even though its stock, I can imagine the way it sounds with an intake.... MONSTER

12-24-2005, 08:15 PM

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nice I'll have to give it a shot..

12-25-2005, 12:55 PM

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well, I found out 2 more things.

1: hold the gear down too long (into red) and the limiter kicks in feeling like the gov.

2: we can also hold the gear up. so you can stay in 2nd gear at stops

12-25-2005, 01:39 PM

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well, I found out 2 more things.

1: hold the gear down too long (into red) and the limiter kicks in feeling like the gov.

2: we can also hold the gear up. so you can stay in 2nd gear at stops

Wow.... learn somethign new everyday

12-25-2005, 01:54 PM

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half of me wants to try this, the other half telling me to be nice to the new engine

12-25-2005, 02:04 PM

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I experimented w/ it this evening. Yep it does work but I don't know that it really benfits in any way. The car is so slow to react when you let go of the shifter, you can't seem to release it at just the right spot w/o hitting the rev limiter. Maybe w/ some more practice and a close eye on the tach you could figure out exactly where to let go. Like some one said, your much more likely to hit it just right in the taller gears where you have more time to react.

Cool discovery though!

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12-25-2005, 02:11 PM

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I wonder if all this has any effect on the tranny ......... hmmmmmmm

12-25-2005, 07:12 PM

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I wonder if all this has any effect on the tranny ......... hmmmmmmm

I doubt it... that's why there's a slight lag, so the car doesn't jump into the next gear. I tried this today and it definitely doesn't jerk into the next gear, it just flows into it as it does from high RPM.

It will sit there, all happy at 6500 though... WOT in 2nd gear the Berk sounds insane... 3rd gear you're going entirely too fast unless you have a lot of road in front of you. I'm comfortable driving with one hand, but not in the rain at night and with the car screaming flying down the highway... maybe some other time...

12-25-2005, 08:38 PM

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hahaha I had it in 5th gear and held it in there.... man its like a truck I was going up a hill and it wasnt moving lol I had to put it back into D.... It was screaming though

12-25-2005, 10:36 PM

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nice find im gonna try this tomorow,

Merry x mas to all by the way even though im 2 hours late lol

12-26-2005, 09:03 AM

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Told my friend about my finding and come to find out his TSX does it without holding the shifter.

12-26-2005, 01:12 PM

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gave it a shot.... hit rev limiter lol....

12-26-2005, 01:50 PM

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gave it a shot.... hit rev limiter lol....

Yeah... should be fun when that rev limiter gets moved by an ECU upgrade, no?

12-26-2005, 05:57 PM

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gave it a shot.... hit rev limiter lol....

lol tek same here.

12-26-2005, 09:01 PM

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New Update:

While accelerating hold the shifter down and when you hit the rev limiter then upshift. Time it perfectly and you will get an added boost when shifting to higher gears. I'm ready to race that G35 coupe again ;-)

12-26-2005, 09:18 PM

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I'm wondering now, if we hold the shifter up while in top gear (5th) will it allow us to go faster then our current believed top speed of 145?!

12-26-2005, 09:34 PM

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It doesnt make you faster when you hit the rev limiter.

12-26-2005, 09:49 PM

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It doesnt make you faster when you hit the rev limiter.

Nobody takes into account gearing and RPMs when you're talking about acceleration and actually racing someone. It's way more complex than just looking at torque and horsepower. One of the true tests is experimentation. And I will tell you if you hold the shifter past where the tranny will auto shift and then upshift you will defintely notice an improvement.

12-26-2005, 10:03 PM

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Quote:

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Nobody takes into account gearing and RPMs

There are a few of us that do actually.

Tapping the rev limiter will hurt acceleration.

Shifting right on time, just before the rev limiter is hit will be best.

12-27-2005, 08:13 AM

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Yeah... should be fun when that rev limiter gets moved by an ECU upgrade, no?

oh yea.... I think we have 1 week left for it VIG...

12-27-2005, 10:00 AM

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There are a few of us that do actually.

Tapping the rev limiter will hurt acceleration.

Shifting right on time, just before the rev limiter is hit will be best.

Exactly, anyways I dont drive an auto so I guess I dont have to worry about it.

12-27-2005, 10:07 AM

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, Glude actually hangs out in other forums, so he knows...

12-27-2005, 05:25 PM

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Holy Crap!!! Is That Friggin" Cool Or What!!!

now the downside...

I installed the AT grounding kit to reap the benefits of improved gas milage. Yesterday I burned 1/4+ tank of gas playing with the auto stick on the highway...

12-27-2005, 05:28 PM

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i still dont get it how to either do it right or what ...please break it down for me...

thanks

Luigi

12-27-2005, 05:56 PM

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I took it to 6500 in 1st gear and then it lurched and didnt sound too happy when I let it upshift...I won't be trying it again...it isnt good for the car.

12-27-2005, 06:00 PM

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I took it to 6500 in 1st gear and then it lurched and didnt sound too happy when I let it upshift...I won't be trying it again...it isnt good for the car.

It lurched because you nailed the rev limiter. Dont be scared to try again, just try and avoid the limiter.

12-27-2005, 06:13 PM

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i still dont get it how to either do it right or what ...please break it down for me...

thanks

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I downshift for passing power, and when the revs reach 5k rpm I hold the stick back to hold the ****, then let go at 7k rpms and

I guess the shift is coming at the high point of the power curve because the acceleration is strong throughout the changes. I had a 89+- supra try to keep up...ubt failed miserably