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Old 04-05-2006, 08:06 AM
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Took a chance part II.....

Bought the UD pulley from the same guy I bought the exhaust from. After hearing from TEK that the only difference between the 3.0/3.5 crank pulley is the timing ring that can be removed I bought the UD pulley. The best pricing on the belts I found was from Rock Auto, both belts and shipping was $26.
So hoping that the pulley works, the pulley was $61 shipped and the belts $26 shipped =$87 total which is a heck of a lot cheaper than any where else.

Any tips on the UD pulley install?
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Any tips on the UD pulley install?
I guess just make sure the belts are properly tightened? If not the car is gonna squeal like a pig whenever you give it gas (mine was doing that for a while because the AC belt wasn't tight enough).

You probably could have picked up both belts for about the same price locally, btw.
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Got it about the belts, just wondering about the removal of the stock crank pulley-clockwise/counterclockwise, etc.....
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I'll bump this also cause I need to know myself..
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For mine it was the normal righty tighty......but a while ago there was talk about it being reversed.....but not too sure on that. My stock pulley was a B!tch to get off....hope you have air.
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I have a compressor with an air gun, my car only has 3300 miles on it so I am hoping that the bolt is not too bad yet. Did you feel a difference with the pulley and any tips on the install?
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I used air but I couldnt get it off. My compressor is a bit feeble though. Still havent installed it yet. No way can that bolt come off by hand though . .must have good air!
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The pulley bolt is LEFT HAND THREAD. You have to turn it to the right to loosen it.

You probably have it good and tight by now!
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Thanks for the info 04-any other tips? Did you use air or a breaker bar?
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Since my car has the auto trans, it's hard to keep the crank from turning. I used compressed air (5 HP, 80 gal Ingersol-Rand compressor) and a huge (Boeing surplus, 3/4 square drive air ratchet) to remove and secure the pulley bolt. Worked like a charm!

If you had a manual trans, you could put it in gear and use a breaker bar.
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Received the pulley yesterday, took the timing ring off and will attempt the install today, directions say to remove the passenger tire/fender liner and it should be there, hope my air tools have the oomph to take the bolt out. I am following the advice thatr they are left hand threads so hopefully I will not be tightening it!
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Originally Posted by greg hazlett
Received the pulley yesterday, took the timing ring off and will attempt the install today, directions say to remove the passenger tire/fender liner and it should be there, hope my air tools have the oomph to take the bolt out. I am following the advice thatr they are left hand threads so hopefully I will not be tightening it!
keep me updated on this Greg, I'm waiting to do it myself..

thanx..
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Will do Tek, the pulley had the ring on it and it was attatched by 4 phillips screws with locktite on it, it was a bear to get off but it's off now!
Thanks for the tip on the crank pullies being the same, that saved me a lot of money!
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Well this is one of the hardest mods I have ever done. The belt set up is one of the stangest ones I have seen, the power steering belt tensioner is one of the most complicated setups I have ever worked on and the crank bolt will not budge. I used 2 different air guns and a breaker bar with myself who weighs 230lbs and my friend that weighs 270lbs straining with everything we hand to remove the crank bilt and we gave up. I am open to suggestions to those that did it themselves....
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wow... are you sure you are going left with it? left hand bolt...
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Old 04-09-2006, 04:51 AM
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Yes, I had the ratchet/air gun set to tighten, we tried for 3 hours, PB blast, breaker bars, broke 2 19mm and 1 3/4 sockets, I don't know whattype of Locktite Nissan uses on the crank bolt but that thing is on there. Help!
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I tried 3 different air set-ups that people knew had....even my neighbors who works at NAPA and is always working on car. I ended up having to bring it to a friend who works at a local Ford stealership.....first try right off no problem....and I am in no way saying to bring it to a Ford stealership.
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might need a bis @ss air gun with lots of *****..
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Any idea what the secret was? Oh, found a hole in the cover where my pry bar dug in, has JB weld on it as we speak, not a big hole and only sprays oil above 5K...

This has not been an enjoyable experience....
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Originally Posted by greg hazlett
Any idea what the secret was? Oh, found a hole in the cover where my pry bar dug in, has JB weld on it as we speak, not a big hole and only sprays oil above 5K...

This has not been an enjoyable experience....
And for all of your troubles what was the real HP outcome? a horse or two besides a few busted knuckles and a leaky cover now
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Originally Posted by MAXDOUT04
And for all of your troubles what was the real HP outcome? a horse or two besides a few busted knuckles and a leaky cover now
Dude stop being a buzz kill and go to the 5th gen forums.

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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Dude stop being a buzz kill and go to the 5th gen forums.

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Bro im not trying to be a buzz kill im just trying to understand why some people would spend $30k+ to make a nice luxury cruiser into a street machine thats all. i like speed dont get me wrong but i have had my share of muscle cars and i bought this one so me and the wife can cruise the beach in style and everybody gives me the thumbs up for a good looker not a asphalt burner not harm intended and as for the 5th gen forums they are all about speed and thats not my style with this kind of car
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I would be happy if the UD pulley was on but can't even be happy that the job is done amd now I am being told that the bolt IS NOT a left hand thread like I was told on here. I wish someone would once and for all settle it!
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O boy, what a pain huh... I wish I knew to help you out..
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I sent a PM to the guy on the 5gen who did the install and write up to give me any tips and I posted the same question for help in the 5th gen forum for help.
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If it doesn't work one way, try the other.
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Tried that too....
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Stopped at the Nissan dealer and spoke with the shop sup, he said that the crank bolt is right hand thread. The 5th gen guys say the blip the starter method works, anyone done this?
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try using a chain whip to hold the pulley in place.
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Old 04-11-2006, 06:41 PM
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It is finally on! The bolt is right hand thread and to loosen it normally. I tried the starter bump idea and it did not work for me, I used a chain with a J hook in the stock pulley attatched to a strap and attatched it an Excursion to keep the pulley in place and then using a breaker bar the bolt finally broke free. What an ordeal but I can tell you what to do and what not to do for this mod!
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Originally Posted by greg hazlett
It is finally on! The bolt is right hand thread and to loosen it normally. I tried the starter bump idea and it did not work for me, I used a chain with a J hook in the stock pulley attatched to a strap and attatched it an Excursion to keep the pulley in place and then using a breaker bar the bolt finally broke free. What an ordeal but I can tell you what to do and what not to do for this mod!
congrats. Can u feel any difference?
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let me know Greg, I'm next..
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Originally Posted by swowlinc
congrats. Can u feel any difference?
Just drove it home last night so no, not yet. Reading in the 5th Gen section they said that it can take 4-5 days for the ECU to recogonize the difference in the weight and to adjust and then they felt a noticable difference. I will see....
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Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
let me know Greg, I'm next..
When you go to do it shoot me a PM and I will help as much as I can.
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greg did you disconnect your battery?
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No-should I and if so for how long? On the mustangs I did it for at least 20 min to clear the memory of the ECU.
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Originally Posted by greg hazlett
No-should I and if so for how long? On the mustangs I did it for at least 20 min to clear the memory of the ECU.
About 1/2 hour. But I thoght pulley is something you should notice right away since it's nothing to do w/ the ECU.
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Originally Posted by greg hazlett
No-should I and if so for how long? On the mustangs I did it for at least 20 min to clear the memory of the ECU.
I didn't think that the pulley would have anything to do with the ECU, but I guess I could be wrong...

My understanding is that the aftermarket pulley -- being lighter -- "robs" the engine of less power than the stock pulley, not that the ECU would "sense" that there's less weight or anything of the sort. I know that the ECU supposedly adjusts for the extra air that it senses at the MAF with a new intake, but I didn't think it would have a similar setup for the UDP. When I think about it, I don't see how it would...

But like I said, I could be wrong...
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yea honestly it was pretty early when i answered that post, but i really didnt think ecu had anything to do with pulley either but then again i also could be wrong.
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Reading in the 5gen forum they said to give it a couple of days so the ecu could recognize and re-learn the weight of the UD pulley which doesn't make sense but I also read on here that the crank bolt was left hand thread and that was wrong also...
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