Osiris from Uprev
10-24-2007, 09:34 AM
#41
Originally Posted by philoforlife
Can the Utech change timing on the fly? Can it change the rev limiter to 7500?
You can adjust hard timing, but the UTEC resets when you save maps so your engine would cut.
10-24-2007, 09:43 AM
#42
Please explain the consequences and the engine cut. Also I heard something about coils going bad. Just trying to see if this is something for me to tune the car once headers come out or just use an safc 2. I also have the TS Full Spec flash.
Last edited by shawndon; 10-24-2007 at 09:47 AM.
10-24-2007, 09:47 AM
#43
All I know is that everything nietzsche has been telling me is starting to fall into place a little better. I am leaning towards the UTEC or the Osiris and will most likely be selling my E-Manage Blue once I get one of those.
10-24-2007, 09:53 AM
#44
You my friend, are on the same boat as me! The TS will pretty much be useless and a waste of money if you get the UTEC because it will be over-riding everything that is on the TS. (fortunately, the benefit with the TS is that it will not over-write the UTEC, unlike "stock" ECU's would)
All I know is that everything nietzsche has been telling me is starting to fall into place a little better. I am leaning towards the UTEC or the Osiris and will most likely be selling my E-Manage Blue once I get one of those.
All I know is that everything nietzsche has been telling me is starting to fall into place a little better. I am leaning towards the UTEC or the Osiris and will most likely be selling my E-Manage Blue once I get one of those.
10-24-2007, 10:05 AM
#45
Yeah you can also go back to stock with that map selector switch so you can still use your TS flash if I understand right. I would rather have a tuned map to use all the time though if possible. I also think that with the UTEC and a live dyno tune would be better because the tuner can see the results rather the way TS tuned our ECU's. Ivalso want to see some better low end.
Agreed on all counts...except for the map selector switch; I'm going to have to read up some more on this
10-24-2007, 10:20 AM
#46
It allows you to change through up to five maps the you have pre tuned base on the type of performance you are looking for. It's cost like $75 extra from what I have been reading.
10-24-2007, 10:44 AM
#48
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I spoke to my buddy, we are set to meet on Sunday to test it out, Do you guys think I should get a replacement ECU if they are nay prolems?
If we can tune this thing I think We all may have some fast azz Maximas with little or no Money. Do you have to register the product or can I jsut plug and play?
If we can tune this thing I think We all may have some fast azz Maximas with little or no Money. Do you have to register the product or can I jsut plug and play?
10-24-2007, 12:04 PM
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I spoke to my buddy, we are set to meet on Sunday to test it out, Do you guys think I should get a replacement ECU if they are nay prolems?
If we can tune this thing I think We all may have some fast azz Maximas with little or no Money. Do you have to register the product or can I jsut plug and play?
If we can tune this thing I think We all may have some fast azz Maximas with little or no Money. Do you have to register the product or can I jsut plug and play?
According to TS, each version of the software on the ECU has to be individually modify; VDC, TCS, AT type, etc. I would think the UpRev will have the same issue. But the ability to tune directly, w/o piggybacks, is a definite plus.
10-24-2007, 01:03 PM
#52
Originally Posted by shawndon
Also I heard something about coils going bad
Originally Posted by Nietzsche
It can change the rev limit, but be aware of what the consequences can be
Originally Posted by Nietzsche
You can adjust hard timing, but the UTEC resets when you save maps so your engine would cut.
If I’m reading this correctly, when you say UTEC resets, you mean, if you ‘dialed in’ a new rev limit, it would not hold, since the UTEC has reset, correct?
Originally Posted by shawndon
Just trying to see if this is something for me to tune the car once headers come out or just use an safc 2.
Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
The TS will pretty much be useless and a waste of money if you get the UTEC because it will be over-riding everything that is on the TS .
Originally Posted by shawndon
Ivalso want to see some better low end. .
Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
I'm going to have to read up some more on this
BTW, anyone seen this thread yet?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=398725
10-24-2007, 01:11 PM
#53
1.) I still haven’t seen anyone use the UTEC for CVTC map alteration, so that in itself is a semi + for the TS.
2.)This mod (UTEC) would really aid in the tuning of a larger MAF housing.
3.)BTW, anyone seen this thread yet?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=398725
2.)This mod (UTEC) would really aid in the tuning of a larger MAF housing.
3.)BTW, anyone seen this thread yet?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=398725
2.) I doubt many 6th geners would want to hack into their Fujita
3.) I've seen it!
10-24-2007, 01:34 PM
#54
I’ve only heard about it with the EMU. What is your source for information?
That decision is up to you. Whether or not you want the tuning resolution of the UTEC depends on how far you really want to go. UTEC requires some pretty in depth knowledge of the vehicle as a whole, and unless you’ve spent hours and maybe even days with the FSM, maybe you would be better off with a raw TS/AFC ‘tune’.
That decision is up to you. Whether or not you want the tuning resolution of the UTEC depends on how far you really want to go. UTEC requires some pretty in depth knowledge of the vehicle as a whole, and unless you’ve spent hours and maybe even days with the FSM, maybe you would be better off with a raw TS/AFC ‘tune’.
Good advice because the tuning shop I spoke to said they didnt really have any knowledge about the UTEC but the have tuned 350Z's so I don't know have extensive their knowledge is. I may just end up with an SAFC 2. Also, what kind of results am I looking at with a raw TS/SAFC 2 tune once the cattman headers are installed?? One of the main concerns is the Low end power that I seem to be missing now. I know that the mid-top end will be better. What Kind of results would I see with the raw TS/SAFC 2 tune after the cattman headers are installed?? My main concern is low end which I seen to be lacking without doing the MAF upgrade. I know the mid-top end will get better though.
10-24-2007, 01:53 PM
#55
I read that on this site which may have been talking about the EMU blowing coils.
Good advice because the tuning shop I spoke to said they didnt really have any knowledge about the UTEC but the have tuned 350Z's so I don't know have extensive their knowledge is. I may just end up with an SAFC 2. Also, what kind of results am I looking at with a raw TS/SAFC 2 tune once the cattman headers are installed?? One of the main concerns is the Low end power that I seem to be missing now. I know that the mid-top end will be better. What Kind of results would I see with the raw TS/SAFC 2 tune after the cattman headers are installed?? My main concern is low end which I seen to be lacking without doing the MAF upgrade. I know the mid-top end will get better though.
Good advice because the tuning shop I spoke to said they didnt really have any knowledge about the UTEC but the have tuned 350Z's so I don't know have extensive their knowledge is. I may just end up with an SAFC 2. Also, what kind of results am I looking at with a raw TS/SAFC 2 tune once the cattman headers are installed?? One of the main concerns is the Low end power that I seem to be missing now. I know that the mid-top end will be better. What Kind of results would I see with the raw TS/SAFC 2 tune after the cattman headers are installed?? My main concern is low end which I seen to be lacking without doing the MAF upgrade. I know the mid-top end will get better though.
How do you plan on doing the MAF upgrade?
10-24-2007, 01:58 PM
#56
10-24-2007, 02:04 PM
#57
I dont know how to upgrde it. I just want better low end Hopefully from one of these tuning devices. I keep thinking I have my mind made up and some new info changes it all. I have to get another dyno to see what the AFR is.
10-24-2007, 02:23 PM
#58
Originally Posted by shawndon
I read that on this site which may have been talking about the EMU blowing coils.
Originally Posted by shawndon
Good advice because the tuning shop I spoke to said they didnt really have any knowledge about the UTEC but the have tuned 350Z's so I don't know have extensive their knowledge is.
Originally Posted by shawndon
Also, what kind of results am I looking at with a raw TS/SAFC 2 tune once the cattman headers are installed??
Originally Posted by shawndon
One of the main concerns is the Low end power that I seem to be missing now. I know that the mid-top end will be better. What Kind of results would I see with the raw TS/SAFC 2 tune after the cattman headers are installed?? My main concern is low end which I seen to be lacking without doing the MAF upgrade. I know the mid-top end will get better though.
I honestly think that many of you need to venture out into other areas of the forum.
10-24-2007, 02:38 PM
#59
There are only 2 people on this board, that I know of, that have this(UTEC) installed. One of them changed FROM EMU TO UTEC due to such a problem. So yes, the UTEC doesn't seem to have this problem.
What .org members need to do is educate themselves on this subject before they get overcharged with a lame/useless tune.
Every car is different, just go get it dyno'd and report back the results.
I added a larger MAF housing and my throttle response is amazing. This requires some intermediate level tuning, and some much needed hardware, (i.e. WBO2 sensor) Altering CVTC maps should theoretically help your low end. But first off, explain what 'low end' means to you? I would say 'off the line up until about 2500-3000, from then on it should be considered mid range.
I honestly think that many of you need to venture out into other areas of the forum.
What .org members need to do is educate themselves on this subject before they get overcharged with a lame/useless tune.
Every car is different, just go get it dyno'd and report back the results.
I added a larger MAF housing and my throttle response is amazing. This requires some intermediate level tuning, and some much needed hardware, (i.e. WBO2 sensor) Altering CVTC maps should theoretically help your low end. But first off, explain what 'low end' means to you? I would say 'off the line up until about 2500-3000, from then on it should be considered mid range.
I honestly think that many of you need to venture out into other areas of the forum.
10-24-2007, 03:01 PM
#60
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=390691
There is also a thread on it on www.my350z.com . It’s not mine but considering your software is nearly identical, it’s a good place to get educated. Prior to doing any mod, I highly recommend you familiarize yourself with FSM’s and such. If you’re in this thread, you should at least have one on .PDF shortcut'ted to your Desktop.
10-24-2007, 03:17 PM
#61
Here’s mine:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=390691
There is also a thread on it on www.my350z.com . It’s not mine but considering your software is nearly identical, it’s a good place to get educated. Prior to doing any mod, I highly recommend you familiarize yourself with FSM’s and such. If you’re in this thread, you should at least have one on .PDF shortcut'ted to your Desktop.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=390691
There is also a thread on it on www.my350z.com . It’s not mine but considering your software is nearly identical, it’s a good place to get educated. Prior to doing any mod, I highly recommend you familiarize yourself with FSM’s and such. If you’re in this thread, you should at least have one on .PDF shortcut'ted to your Desktop.
Last edited by shawndon; 10-24-2007 at 03:22 PM.
10-24-2007, 05:42 PM
#62
10-24-2007, 05:57 PM
#63
NMex,
I noticed in the thread you posted for your MAF mod you showed your AFR from 2300 rpm to 7100 rpm how did you get the values?? From your SAFC 2?? I want to see how linear my AFR curve is. Also I cant the link to work . Is there an Adobe copy of the manual??
I noticed in the thread you posted for your MAF mod you showed your AFR from 2300 rpm to 7100 rpm how did you get the values?? From your SAFC 2?? I want to see how linear my AFR curve is. Also I cant the link to work . Is there an Adobe copy of the manual??
Last edited by shawndon; 10-24-2007 at 06:05 PM.
10-24-2007, 08:19 PM
#67
Here's the basis of why I did what I did: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...8&postcount=18
Taken from:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3150152
Yes it's an LRMAF, BUT, you guys cannot use it. You guys have a different sensor than I do. It (yours) is the same sensor used in the Z33, so your aftermarket choices should be better. I wont sit here and explain how it's done, how to do it, or what you need because I've done that already.
If I were you, I would
7z files. It's essentially like a WINRAR tool. If not, there's always www.phatg20.net. There are tons of FSM's on there...If the site is back up. If not there's this: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=36
Taken from:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3150152
Yes it's an LRMAF, BUT, you guys cannot use it. You guys have a different sensor than I do. It (yours) is the same sensor used in the Z33, so your aftermarket choices should be better. I wont sit here and explain how it's done, how to do it, or what you need because I've done that already.
If I were you, I would
7z files. It's essentially like a WINRAR tool. If not, there's always www.phatg20.net. There are tons of FSM's on there...If the site is back up. If not there's this: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=36
10-24-2007, 08:49 PM
#68
Here's the basis of why I did what I did: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...8&postcount=18
Taken from:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3150152
Yes it's an LRMAF, BUT, you guys cannot use it. You guys have a different sensor than I do. It (yours) is the same sensor used in the Z33, so your aftermarket choices should be better. I wont sit here and explain how it's done, how to do it, or what you need because I've done that already.
If I were you, I would 7z files. It's essentially like a WINRAR tool. If not, there's always www.phatg20.net. There are tons of FSM's on there...If the site is back up. If not there's this: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=36
Taken from:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3150152
Yes it's an LRMAF, BUT, you guys cannot use it. You guys have a different sensor than I do. It (yours) is the same sensor used in the Z33, so your aftermarket choices should be better. I wont sit here and explain how it's done, how to do it, or what you need because I've done that already.
If I were you, I would
7z files. It's essentially like a WINRAR tool. If not, there's always www.phatg20.net. There are tons of FSM's on there...If the site is back up. If not there's this: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=36
10-24-2007, 08:54 PM
#69
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Cool you had me thinking at first that us 6th genners could use the 82 mm MAF but found out later in that single post that we could not. Hopefully with our MAF matching the Z33 we can find one that will bolt up. The only thing is cutting on the fujita. I'll also check those links thanks
10-25-2007, 04:02 AM
#72
I never really knew anything about the MAF mod so I had no reason to measure it. But I see the point you guys are making. Is there a possibility that it may not need to be cut??
10-25-2007, 06:33 AM
#73
10-25-2007, 12:00 PM
#77
10-25-2007, 12:19 PM
#78
10-25-2007, 12:34 PM
#79
I still have my stock air box and stuff like that. I would try to get a spare one though and try or at least a WAI like you guys used. How many wires have to be spliced when you switch over to the other MAF?? That is my only concern splicing. I also went to car-part.com and they had Z33 MAF's for like $275.00-$375.00 I was like
. Where's a cheaper place to get one??
10-25-2007, 12:51 PM
#80
I still have my stock air box and stuff like that. I would try to get a spare one though and try or at least a WAI like you guys used. How many wires have to be spliced when you switch over to the other MAF?? That is my only concern splicing. I also went to car-part.com and they had Z33 MAF's for like $275.00-$375.00 I was like . Where's a cheaper place to get one??
. Where's a cheaper place to get one??Ok, you misunderstood my point. I meant that your sensor is the same as the Z33 unit. What this means is that all aftermakrket housings available for the Z33 will fit your car. What this also means is that your sensor = Z33 sensor, and buying one off car-part will only get you what you already have, housing and all.
So, look around, go custom, or find something that YOUR sensor fits into, which is what any other Z33 sensor will fit into. Search my350z for that thread explaining what was done in their case.