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Old 12-26-2007, 04:28 PM
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Track Experience Needed...

I wanted to ask you 6th gens with auto trannies. I have the 5 spd manumatic. For those of you who have taken your car to the track. Did you get faster times using the manumatic or just leaving it in drive?

Also for 30mph rolls, is it a better take off on Drive or 2nd?
I got a few mods so i wanted to put some numbers down. Mods in my sig.
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I've heard many members say that is just as fast in "D", than shifting by yourself. Actually most say its quicker to just leave it be, and let it shift itself for straight line races.
 
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got it, thnx.
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ya, def leave it in "D" for track
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For the max, on the line press down on the brake and gas at the same time and bring your engine RPM up to 2000, on green floor it and let the Max do the rest. If you have 5AT with triptronic, leave it in triptronic but don't shift it, the car will do it automatically and do it faster than in drive!!!

Some other things to consider on the track:

- Take everything out of your ride, spare tire, jack also.

- Try to have 1/2 tank of gas or less

- If using street tires, go around the water that is normally put down for drag radials to heat the tires. With street tires there is no need to heat them up and if wet, they will just spin at launch so you waste time getting down the track...

-Remove all engine covers to help heat dissipate faster, in between runs open your hood to help the engine cool down faster

Remember, weight and heat in our car is our enemy!!!

Most important, have fun and keep it on the tracki...
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Wanna feel the torquiest part of our motor...?

At a dead stop, shift into tiptronic...leave it in first...drive till about 25-28mph and WOT... pulls and screams like no other!
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Wanna feel the torquiest part of our motor...?

At a dead stop, shift into tiptronic...leave it in first...drive till about 25-28mph and WOT... pulls and screams like no other!
so true :0) i do that kinda often :P ... cant be good for the auto trans but owell


I have the same mods as you.. you should run a low-mid 14... 14.5-14.3
When and if u get a IMSK from and a Kinetix manifold you should expect a 14.1-13.9 ................track/tires/driving all depend on that those times
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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
so true :0) i do that kinda often :P ... cant be good for the auto trans but owell


I have the same mods as you.. you should run a low-mid 14... 14.5-14.3
When and if u get a IMSK from and a Kinetix manifold you should expect a 14.1-13.9 ................track/tires/driving all depend on that those times
IMSK?...not getting Kinetix...VIAS removal for sure...SSIM maybe
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
IMSK?...not getting Kinetix...VIAS removal for sure...SSIM maybe
my last post was directed to the Opening post guy ..

IMSK = intakemanfispacerkit

Dan you prob run a 14.0-13.8 ... maybe better... but you have a grip of mods i envy a few of them hahah
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
IMSK?...not getting Kinetix...VIAS removal for sure...SSIM maybe
SSIM? and Vias? help w/ the abvtns please
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Originally Posted by jimmypronet
For the max, on the line press down on the brake and gas at the same time and bring your engine RPM up to 2000, on green floor it and let the Max do the rest. If you have 5AT with triptronic, leave it in triptronic but don't shift it, the car will do it automatically and do it faster than in drive!!!
I have to disagree, it does not shift faster in Tiptronic.

I've done well over 200 logged launches and my fastest and most consistant times were done in D without brake torquing. It also shifts at the same rate no matter what mode it's in, unless you know something Nissan techs don't know.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:11 AM
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My times at the track are quicker in manual mode by 2tenths of a second with and without spraying it may be due to the TS ECU (7100RPM) upgrade I shift a 6400-6500. The stock program (6600RPM) shifts around 6200.
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Originally Posted by jimmypronet
For the max, on the line press down on the brake and gas at the same time and bring your engine RPM up to 2000, on green floor it and let the Max do the rest. If you have 5AT with triptronic, leave it in triptronic but don't shift it, the car will do it automatically and do it faster than in drive!!!

Some other things to consider on the track:

- Take everything out of your ride, spare tire, jack also.

- Try to have 1/2 tank of gas or less

- If using street tires, go around the water that is normally put down for drag radials to heat the tires. With street tires there is no need to heat them up and if wet, they will just spin at launch so you waste time getting down the track...

-Remove all engine covers to help heat dissipate faster, in between runs open your hood to help the engine cool down faster

Remember, weight and heat in our car is our enemy!!!

Most important, have fun and keep it on the tracki...
do everything he said
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
SSIM? and Vias? help w/ the abvtns please
VIAS- http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...nks-gbjna.html

SSIM- http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...d-results.html
(Secret Sauce IM)

I wish I could hit those numbers with these mods...DR maybe

I don't have that many more mods than you...performance wise at least
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Originally Posted by jimmypronet
For the max, on the line press down on the brake and gas at the same time and bring your engine RPM up to 2000, on green floor it and let the Max do the rest. If you have 5AT with triptronic, leave it in triptronic but don't shift it, the car will do it automatically and do it faster than in drive!!!

Some other things to consider on the track:

- Take everything out of your ride, spare tire, jack also.

- Try to have 1/2 tank of gas or less

- If using street tires, go around the water that is normally put down for drag radials to heat the tires. With street tires there is no need to heat them up and if wet, they will just spin at launch so you waste time getting down the track...

-Remove all engine covers to help heat dissipate faster, in between runs open your hood to help the engine cool down faster

Remember, weight and heat in our car is our enemy!!!

Most important, have fun and keep it on the tracki...
Damn that looks exactly like something I wrote a while back!!!
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Originally Posted by jimmypronet
For the max, on the line press down on the brake and gas at the same time and bring your engine RPM up to 2000, on green floor it and let the Max do the rest. If you have 5AT with triptronic, leave it in triptronic but don't shift it, the car will do it automatically and do it faster than in drive!!!

Some other things to consider on the track:

- Take everything out of your ride, spare tire, jack also.

- Try to have 1/2 tank of gas or less

- If using street tires, go around the water that is normally put down for drag radials to heat the tires. With street tires there is no need to heat them up and if wet, they will just spin at launch so you waste time getting down the track...

-Remove all engine covers to help heat dissipate faster, in between runs open your hood to help the engine cool down faster

Remember, weight and heat in our car is our enemy!!!

Most important, have fun and keep it on the tracki...
wait, leave it in tiptronic and don't shift? so what it will go to redline each time and then shift for you?
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Originally Posted by blackmax07
wait, leave it in tiptronic and don't shift? so what it will go to redline each time and then shift for you?
Actually it won't go to redline, try it, it will still shift by itself, I promise...
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:33 AM
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ya i tried it. i hate the tiptronic in our cars. i perfer the one in the 07 altima since i drove it be4. you can shift whenever you want and it goes to 6 speed
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Originally Posted by bdmaxima
ya i tried it. i hate the tiptronic in our cars. i perfer the one in the 07 altima since i drove it be4. you can shift whenever you want and it goes to 6 speed

6 is jut a number for CVT. it could have been 12 if they wanted, it doesn't mean a thing.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
chuckle: pulls and screams like no other!
Uh, if you ever come to NH look me up. We'll go for a little ride in the Buick.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:24 PM
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Hahahah chern... yea thats youre advise to me....... but never have a chance to do it on the track... too busy
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Originally Posted by jimmypronet
Hahahah chern... yea thats youre advise to me....... but never have a chance to do it on the track... too busy
That's cool bro, next week is a new year and a new track season...
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Originally Posted by jimmypronet
For the max, on the line press down on the brake and gas at the same time and bring your engine RPM up to 2000, on green floor it and let the Max do the rest. If you have 5AT with triptronic, leave it in triptronic but don't shift it, the car will do it automatically and do it faster than in drive!!!

Some other things to consider on the track:

- Take everything out of your ride, spare tire, jack also.

- Try to have 1/2 tank of gas or less

- If using street tires, go around the water that is normally put down for drag radials to heat the tires. With street tires there is no need to heat them up and if wet, they will just spin at launch so you waste time getting down the track...

-Remove all engine covers to help heat dissipate faster, in between runs open your hood to help the engine cool down faster

Remember, weight and heat in our car is our enemy!!!

Most important, have fun and keep it on the tracki...

Thanx good stuff to know.

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so true :0) i do that kinda often :P ... cant be good for the auto trans but owell


I have the same mods as you.. you should run a low-mid 14... 14.5-14.3
When and if u get a IMSK from and a Kinetix manifold you should expect a 14.1-13.9 ................track/tires/driving all depend on that those times
Im actually about to get the IMS kit from NWP. And waiting for the cattman headers then doing a TS flash.


Originally Posted by Nietzsche
I have to disagree, it does not shift faster in Tiptronic.

I've done well over 200 logged launches and my fastest and most consistant times were done in D without brake torquing. It also shifts at the same rate no matter what mode it's in, unless you know something Nissan techs don't know.

SO no brake torquing? Just slowly mash the peddle at the beggining?
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pronto
Uh, if you ever come to NH look me up. We'll go for a little ride in the Buick.
Hey now...first and only car=pulls and screams for me
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Originally Posted by chernmax
Actually it won't go to redline, try it, it will still shift by itself, I promise...
guess I'll try this out..does it matter that I have cvt? so I'm guessing it will go 6k and then shift..I always wondered about this CVT I have..when driving in tiptronic when is the best time to shift through each gear...Sometimes i go 6k on each, and then just randomly..it all feels the same to me..sorry for the hijack.
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Originally Posted by too_Da_MAX
SO no brake torquing? Just slowly mash the peddle at the beggining?
My best runs were all made modulating the gas. Brake torquing didn't give me better results in the least. Results may vary though, everybody has their own technique. I suggest messing around until you find what works best for you.
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Originally Posted by Nietzsche
I have to disagree, it does not shift faster in Tiptronic.

I've done well over 200 logged launches and my fastest and most consistant times were done in D without brake torquing. It also shifts at the same rate no matter what mode it's in, unless you know something Nissan techs don't know.
****ing UTEC
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Originally Posted by chernmax
Actually it won't go to redline, try it, it will still shift by itself, I promise...
Unless you pull back on the shifter & hold it back then it will go all the way to the rev limiter, or till you push the shifter forward......... try it
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Originally Posted by Machinist
Unless you pull back on the shifter & hold it back then it will go all the way to the rev limiter, or till you push the shifter forward......... try it
correct. You just have to learn exactly when to let it go or the engine will just cut off at the time it reaches the limiter
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
****ing UTEC
I think he's using a G-Tec to do his logging....
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Originally Posted by Pronto
I think he's using a G-Tec to do his logging....
He's partially right, although the UTEC doesn't give me any performance ETA's. I use other computer programs to record speed/distance. I don't trust the G-Tec completely and I already use the computer for everything else.
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Originally Posted by Nietzsche
I have to disagree, it does not shift faster in Tiptronic..
Agreed. Tested this out a couple of times at the track. 1/4mi times faster leaving the car in drive. No ECU flash here though, so if you are flashed I'd have to defer to Kevin007's experience

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I've done well over 200 logged launches and my fastest and most consistant times were done in D without brake torquing. It also shifts at the same rate no matter what mode it's in, unless you know something Nissan techs don't know.
I've gotten faster times brake torquing but I agree on the consistency when you don't brake torque. Times were all very close, when I just stepped on the gas. If I try bracket racing this spring, I will not be brake torquing.
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