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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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NON HID to HID Headlight Assembly Conversion

I have a 04 se. It didnt come with Stock HIDs so i got a HID fog light kit and and a hid headlight kit. The output is def much better but not as much as i expected as it does not have HID projectors..

I was wondering if i can buy the HID headlight assemblies and put them in my maxima..and then use the hid kits in there.

Please advise..
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Not sure....you might have to purchase hood as well to fit new "projector" headlight assembly units...

Anyhoo, there are several who have done it and I am sure will advise when they get the chance.
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by djdownfawl
I was wondering if i can buy the HID headlight assemblies and put them in my maxima..and then use the hid kits in there.
If you replace the halogen lamps with factory HID assemblies, then there will be no need to use the aftermarket kit.

And yes, the factory HID lamps are plug & play, if you get the 04-06 version for your car. BTW, there is a set for sale currently in the classified section.
Old Dec 14, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Oops, my bad...I was thinking you wanted to put in 07-08 headlamp units. Hence, the talk of hoods and such.

That would great to get in some factory headlamp units for the year of your car.

Good luck.
Old Dec 23, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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??? For HIDs you need projectors which the SEs have correct .
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Are the stock halogen headlight housings the same as the stock HID ones? Asking because i have an 07 with the halogen bulbs and wanted to upgrade to the OEM plug and play HID kit. Was hoping to just be able to get the OEM ballast and bulbs while using my existing housing. Is this possible or will i need to get Nissan HID headlight housings. Thanks in advance.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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the reflector bowl is different between the halogen and HID projectors. the bulbs are different as well.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Yeah, also the lens that is used along with the addition of a ballast. Pretty much the whole thing is different from halogen projectors.

Some people just do a retrofit with E55 projectors so that the cutoff, glare and everything is corrected. They can use 55W HID kits and have the REAL effect that it's supposed to.
Old Jul 5, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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Thread revival

Are the stock halogen headlight housings the same as the stock HID ones? Asking because i have an 07 with the halogen bulbs and wanted to upgrade to the OEM plug and play HID kit. Was hoping to just be able to get the OEM ballast and bulbs while using my existing housing. Is this possible or will i need to get Nissan HID headlight housings. Thanks in advance.
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the reflector bowl is different between the halogen and HID projectors. the bulbs are different as well.
Yes, the projectors and the bulbs are different. IF you wanted to convert your halogen housing to OEM HID, you would have to cut the hole in the bottom for the ballast (the mount IS there, but the hole is sealed off), change your halogen projectors to Maxima E55 projectors, install the ballast and bulbs, and either change your headlight wiring harness to the HID harness or add a relay to power the ballasts directly from the battery (you MIGHT be able to use the halogen harness, but I'm not sure what gauge wire was used for the 9012 halogen bulbs). Another possible issue is if the headlight sealing cap will still fit when you convert the projectors because the bulb ignitors take up quite a bit of space behind the projectors.

I actually have all parts to convert my halogen headlights to OEM HID (including HID harnesses and caps), I just haven't had any free time.
Old Jul 5, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Thanks for all the responses.

Retro seems to be easier said than done and at over $1400 for a new set from the factory i dont see myself buying them anytime soon either. Guess my best bet is to find someone who can do a clean retro and call it a day.
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by smplyamzng
Thanks for all the responses.

Retro seems to be easier said than done and at over $1400 for a new set from the factory i dont see myself buying them anytime soon either. Guess my best bet is to find someone who can do a clean retro and call it a day.
I've dealt with a couple retros but unfortunately I don't have the time anymore. It isn't too hard to do and there are some really good detailed write ups out there. You just need time and patience

However, if you're serious about getting a retro I'd take a look at hidplanet.com. A lot of good information out there and you can find some top notch retrofitters as well.

Either way be prepared to spend around $800 for the entire thing.

New headlights
bulbs/ballast
projectors
harness
installation itself

You could spend less if you can get good deals on parts and even less if you do it yourself and use your current headlights. Good luck!
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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The main point is changing the projectors to HID E55 projectors (specifically the Maxima version), which are a DIRECT drop-in replacement of the halogen projectors. They use the same mounts and everything, so it isn't too much of a retrofit. And you don't HAVE to use OEM ballasts and bulbs if you don't want to, it's more of a preference. If you used your own headlights, I would say at most you'd spend $400 (dependent on buying new or used), but you can definitely find deals to spend even less.
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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You can find the projector on ebay....... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...Q5fAccessories

But you would have to open your headlights and swap the projectors.
Old Jul 7, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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You can find the projector on ebay....... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...Q5fAccessories

But you would have to open your headlights and swap the projectors.
Yep which involves a nice visit to the oven.

You can probably get a better price on the projectors though. I've seen a pair of TSX projectors go for $60 and those are better than what the Maxima has. I've had those TSX ones on my 05 Altima. If you don't mind doing some cutting, something like the TSX should be a pretty easy fit.
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Really?

Originally Posted by 6.5affiliate
Yeah, also the lens that is used along with the addition of a ballast. Pretty much the whole thing is different from halogen projectors.

Some people just do a retrofit with E55 projectors so that the cutoff, glare and everything is corrected. They can use 55W HID kits and have the REAL effect that it's supposed to.

I didn't realize the whole setup is different, i never have seen any docs on this. I think that just the bulbs are different, and the xenon setup just included you p/s.

In my Service manual, the only thing different is the buld and added ballest.
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dee.signs
I didn't realize the whole setup is different, i never have seen any docs on this. I think that just the bulbs are different, and the xenon setup just included you p/s.

In my Service manual, the only thing different is the buld and added ballest.
The projector inside is different. A halogen projector will not accept a xenon D2S bulb, nor is it built to properly direct light from a xenon bulb (even 9006 HID kits).

The wiring harness is different. If you look at the sealing caps on a xenon wiring harness and a halogen one, they are different. The xenon harness has different connections on it.

The headlight housing itself is physically SIMILAR to the halogen one, but the xenon one has an opening at the bottom for the ballast, so it is not the same.

The rest of the components are the same, but the headlight assemblies as a whole are definitely different.
Old Jul 16, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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I have an 06 maxima that came with the non hid assembly
And I always wondered the same thing
I purchased 2 used oem hid headlight assemblies off of ebay for 250 ea.
And they plugged in with no modifactions
In fact they have been in working for 2 yrs with no problems
Old Jul 16, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vmax
I have an 06 maxima that came with the non hid assembly
And I always wondered the same thing
I purchased 2 used oem hid headlight assemblies off of ebay for 250 ea.
And they plugged in with no modifactions
In fact they have been in working for 2 yrs with no problems
+1 this is what i will do for sure lol sell my old ones get someone of my money back
Old Jul 16, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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The projector inside is different. A halogen projector will not accept a xenon D2S bulb, nor is it built to properly direct light from a xenon bulb (even 9006 HID kits).

The wiring harness is different. If you look at the sealing caps on a xenon wiring harness and a halogen one, they are different. The xenon harness has different connections on it.

The headlight housing itself is physically SIMILAR to the halogen one, but the xenon one has an opening at the bottom for the ballast, so it is not the same.

The rest of the components are the same, but the headlight assemblies as a whole are definitely different.
Yup, all of that is true.

I gotta include that for the 6.5's. The Halogen headlights are sealed and the HID headlights technically are not (because it has to let air in for ventilation in order to prevent the housing from getting to hot). Which is why there's a TSB for condensation on HID headlights for the 6.5 gens.

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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Legit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...Q5fAccessories
Old Jul 17, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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Nope, those are aftermarket headlights that aren't made with the same type of materials. Basically lacking a lot of quality. Also, for genuine HID headlights. They would be 1500+ for a pair.

EDIT:

Here's a link for just one headlight:

http://www.courtesyparts.com/26060-l...669_2705_2712&

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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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Hell no lol they even look funny, they have those same one for the 04-06 models on ebay i though about it but i was like nahhhhh.
Old Jul 17, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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The used OEM HID headlights I purchased off of ebay, were not perfect. One assembly had one bracket out of the four missing. But it installed with no problems and remained secure. I think they were salvaged from crashed vehicles. They worked fine for me for 2 yrs, then one of the bulbs started going pink, so I decided to change both bulbs to phillips ultinon 6000k, and now they look really good. I think the hardest part about changing the assemblies is taking off the bumper to get to them, because the assemblies just plug right in. Just like the halogen assemblies. Nothing different. But after taking the bumper off a few times it gets really easy. It only takes me 10 mins now to remove the bumper.

I initially tried changing the bulbs in my original halogen assemblies with those 9006 hid kits that you see for sell, and they were just a pain for me IMO. I had so many issues with condensation filling up the assemblies, and I just could never get it right. Plus you have to line up the ballast somewhere that is secure. After purchasing the used OEM assembly I wished I would have just done that initially. The ballast is already attached to the assembly underneath, so there is no guess work as to where to mount it. Or no additional cables to run.
Old Aug 11, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Im curious to know did you just buy the HID ballast or the whole headlight assembly ?
Old Aug 12, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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I bought the entire oem assemblies used off of ebay they
Came wired with the oem balast
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