2010 Maxima Charting the Changes
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The CVT even with its 4 mode still doesn't compare to a traditional manual tranny or conventional auto. There are some people who like the CVT but most don't. Nissan isn't using a CVT in ANY of the infiniti vehicles for a reason. They chose the 7AT or 6MT for performance as far as the new models are concerned.
From 40MPH - 130MPH the 6MT Altima would pull out the victory on a new Maxima. The new altima traps around 101MPH in the 1/4mile. The new maxima traps around 97-98MPH so I have seen. The new maxima falls flat on its face after 100MPH. Check out this video compared to a 6MT altima and you will see the difference in acceleration especially up top. The new Maxima is a great car its just lacking the proper transmissions IMO. I think the CVT takes the fun out of the vehicle for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoHkaMy4nA
From 40MPH - 130MPH the 6MT Altima would pull out the victory on a new Maxima. The new altima traps around 101MPH in the 1/4mile. The new maxima traps around 97-98MPH so I have seen. The new maxima falls flat on its face after 100MPH. Check out this video compared to a 6MT altima and you will see the difference in acceleration especially up top. The new Maxima is a great car its just lacking the proper transmissions IMO. I think the CVT takes the fun out of the vehicle for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoHkaMy4nA
But if you want to speak quarter mile, the base G37 costs as much as a fully loaded Altima, does 0-60 in 5 seconds(I forgot which tranny was used), covers the quarter mile in 13.5 seconds @ 105 MPH. Problem solved!
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Nissan isn't using a CVT in ANY of the infiniti vehicles for a reason. They chose the 7AT or 6MT for performance as far as the new models are concerned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoHkaMy4nA
Once more, you are mixing apples and oranges.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Once more, you are mixing apples and oranges.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
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I expect to see the first 2010s, still encased in the usual shipping pads, parked on the back lot of my dealer within the next week. The only visible external differences will be the wheels on the '10 will be very slightly shinier and the window sticker will read '2010.'
The reality is that, despite a few tweaks, and the usual hoopla from Nissan (bless their heart), the differences between the '09 and '10 will be sparse, as is always the case between the first and second model years of a new generation Maxima.
Last edited by lightonthehill; Aug 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM.
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Once more, you are mixing apples and oranges.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Its not that I don't like the new Maxima. I just prefer not to own a CVT. I have driven my grandmas 09 murano alot and that has really turned me off as far as the CVT tranny goes. It is nice when passing and its very responsive then however its just not for my liking thats all. I am not obsessed with MT but do prefer them to a CVT. Most sports car enthusiests prefer a manual anyway.
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I didn't realize that Nissan didn't have a application with the CVT for RWD. With my Grandma's 09 Murano it is AWD and has a CVT.
Its not that I don't like the new Maxima. I just prefer not to own a CVT. I have driven my grandmas 09 murano alot and that has really turned me off as far as the CVT tranny goes. It is nice when passing and its very responsive then however its just not for my liking thats all. I am not obsessed with MT but do prefer them to a CVT. Most sports car enthusiests prefer a manual anyway.
Its not that I don't like the new Maxima. I just prefer not to own a CVT. I have driven my grandmas 09 murano alot and that has really turned me off as far as the CVT tranny goes. It is nice when passing and its very responsive then however its just not for my liking thats all. I am not obsessed with MT but do prefer them to a CVT. Most sports car enthusiests prefer a manual anyway.
There are those here who say driving the totally redesigned CVT in the '09 Maxima is definitely better than earlier CVTs. I'm not sure the '09 Murano has the same CVT as the '09 Maxima. If you get the opportunity, you should take a spin in an '09 Maxima and see if it does anything more for you than the Murano CVT.
The CVT is not yet perfect, and I feel it may not yet be as quick off the line as a manual or automatic. But when I pull out to pass, this baby goes from 40 MPH to 80 MPH in a flash; quicker than any of the many Maximas I have owned.
Having said all that, if I lived on a rural farm road somewhere out in west Texas, I would still prefer a manual. Just for old times sake.
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I wonder if this is true..."Nissan is planning a Diesel Maxima for 2010. It will be using a Diesel V6 co developed by Renault. The 3.0-liter V6 dCi, should produce around 261hp and 406 lb-ft of torque. No word yet on the Miles per gallon of this car, but I’m guessing it will be around 38 Combined city and highway. I would estimate that the price will be around $35,000, diesels are normally more expensive the gasoline counterparts because of the development costs being higher. We might see this engine in other Nissans, but it will start out in the Maxima." sounds like some good advancements there right?
http://www.dieselautoblog.com/nissan...nissan-maxima/
http://www.dieselautoblog.com/nissan...nissan-maxima/
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Once more, you are mixing apples and oranges.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Nissan CAN'T use CVTs in Infinitis because the CVTs built so far are for FRONT WHEEL DRIVE vehicles, and Infinitis are REAR wheel drive. JATCO is working on a CVT for RWD vehicles, but doesn't have one ready for mass production yet.
You don't HAVE to like the new Maxima. There is no question anyone can slant things to justify not liking any particular vehicle. I have always been good at that. But I hope you know in your heart that, as many faults as the new Maxima has, more faults can be found with almost any other vehicle you can name, including ALL earlier Maxima generations. I know; I owned them.
You seem obcessed with manual trannies. I have owned many manual tranny vehicles over the past sixty years, and in olden days where we had open road and light traffic, they were a lot of fun. But those conditions ceased to exist decades ago where I live. Creepy-crawling at ten to twenty MPH takes the fun out of a manual.
Also, despite every denial you may conjure up, basic physics tells us a properly operating tranny that does not have to shift will be more efficient in both efficiency and acceleration than one that does. The CVT has not been totally perfected yet, but this '09 CVT is the best one so far, and, unlike earlier CVTs, is actually interesting (and somewhat fun) to drive.
Why not just let your hair down, grit your teeth and move on into the third millenium with the rest of us. Progress does not always go as we would wish, but there is nothing we can do to stop it.
I wonder if this is true..."Nissan is planning a Diesel Maxima for 2010. It will be using a Diesel V6 co developed by Renault. The 3.0-liter V6 dCi, should produce around 261hp and 406 lb-ft of torque. No word yet on the Miles per gallon of this car, but I’m guessing it will be around 38 Combined city and highway. I would estimate that the price will be around $35,000, diesels are normally more expensive the gasoline counterparts because of the development costs being higher. We might see this engine in other Nissans, but it will start out in the Maxima." sounds like some good advancements there right?
http://www.dieselautoblog.com/nissan...nissan-maxima/
http://www.dieselautoblog.com/nissan...nissan-maxima/
I'd buy one in a New York Minute 406 ft-lbs of torque oh yes baby!
http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/03/...sel-plans.html
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That was "delayed" earlier this year... Most are of the opinion that it's canceled which I think is a safe assumption.
I'd buy one in a New York Minute 406 ft-lbs of torque oh yes baby!
http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/03/...sel-plans.html
I'd buy one in a New York Minute 406 ft-lbs of torque oh yes baby!
http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/03/...sel-plans.html
Yes. That original diesel Maxima promise was from February 2008, but when the economy collapsed last fall, this diesel immediately fell into the 'doubtful' category. Either Honda or Toyota announced in December that their plans for a diesel version of the Accord or Camry (I can't recall which one it was) were being put on hold, and less than a week later, Nissan announced the diesel Maxima was also being put on hold.
The earliest I would think we could see a diesel Maxima would be as part of the 7.5 generation 2011 rollout, but I would think the 2014 8th generation would be a little more likely. Although, as MaxLoverAz said, there are many who have given up on seeing a diesel Maxima.
If we do see a diesel Maxima, it will be because of the coming (in 2016) stricter government MPG requirements. A diesel should give a real bump in MPG, and Nissan may decide that bump is worth putting it in the Maxima.
If Nissan does eventually go with a diesel Maxima, it will be very interesting to see what they decide on the tranny. By 2014, there will be heavy duty CVTs available that can handle high torque (JATCO is beginning to make them now, but initial use may be intended for trucks), but Nissan may decide to stay with the very effective medium duty CVT currently in the Maxima, in which case, they may go with a six speed automatic tranny. But who knows?
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Yes. That original diesel Maxima promise was from February 2008, but when the economy collapsed last fall, this diesel immediately fell into the 'doubtful' category. Either Honda or Toyota announced in December that their plans for a diesel version of the Accord or Camry (I can't recall which one it was) were being put on hold, and less than a week later, Nissan announced the diesel Maxima was also being put on hold.
The earliest I would think we could see a diesel Maxima would be as part of the 7.5 generation 2011 rollout, but I would think the 2014 8th generation would be a little more likely. Although, as MaxLoverAz said, there are many who have given up on seeing a diesel Maxima.
If we do see a diesel Maxima, it will be because of the coming (in 2016) stricter government MPG requirements. A diesel should give a real bump in MPG, and Nissan may decide that bump is worth putting it in the Maxima.
If Nissan does eventually go with a diesel Maxima, it will be very interesting to see what they decide on the tranny. By 2014, there will be heavy duty CVTs available that can handle high torque (JATCO is beginning to make them now, but initial use may be intended for trucks), but Nissan may decide to stay with the very effective medium duty CVT currently in the Maxima, in which case, they may go with a six speed automatic tranny. But who knows?
The earliest I would think we could see a diesel Maxima would be as part of the 7.5 generation 2011 rollout, but I would think the 2014 8th generation would be a little more likely. Although, as MaxLoverAz said, there are many who have given up on seeing a diesel Maxima.
If we do see a diesel Maxima, it will be because of the coming (in 2016) stricter government MPG requirements. A diesel should give a real bump in MPG, and Nissan may decide that bump is worth putting it in the Maxima.
If Nissan does eventually go with a diesel Maxima, it will be very interesting to see what they decide on the tranny. By 2014, there will be heavy duty CVTs available that can handle high torque (JATCO is beginning to make them now, but initial use may be intended for trucks), but Nissan may decide to stay with the very effective medium duty CVT currently in the Maxima, in which case, they may go with a six speed automatic tranny. But who knows?
Perhaps a seven speed?
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Yes. That original diesel Maxima promise was from February 2008, but when the economy collapsed last fall, this diesel immediately fell into the 'doubtful' category. Either Honda or Toyota announced in December that their plans for a diesel version of the Accord or Camry (I can't recall which one it was) were being put on hold, and less than a week later, Nissan announced the diesel Maxima was also being put on hold.
The earliest I would think we could see a diesel Maxima would be as part of the 7.5 generation 2011 rollout, but I would think the 2014 8th generation would be a little more likely. Although, as MaxLoverAz said, there are many who have given up on seeing a diesel Maxima.
If we do see a diesel Maxima, it will be because of the coming (in 2016) stricter government MPG requirements. A diesel should give a real bump in MPG, and Nissan may decide that bump is worth putting it in the Maxima.
If Nissan does eventually go with a diesel Maxima, it will be very interesting to see what they decide on the tranny. By 2014, there will be heavy duty CVTs available that can handle high torque (JATCO is beginning to make them now, but initial use may be intended for trucks), but Nissan may decide to stay with the very effective medium duty CVT currently in the Maxima, in which case, they may go with a six speed automatic tranny. But who knows?
The earliest I would think we could see a diesel Maxima would be as part of the 7.5 generation 2011 rollout, but I would think the 2014 8th generation would be a little more likely. Although, as MaxLoverAz said, there are many who have given up on seeing a diesel Maxima.
If we do see a diesel Maxima, it will be because of the coming (in 2016) stricter government MPG requirements. A diesel should give a real bump in MPG, and Nissan may decide that bump is worth putting it in the Maxima.
If Nissan does eventually go with a diesel Maxima, it will be very interesting to see what they decide on the tranny. By 2014, there will be heavy duty CVTs available that can handle high torque (JATCO is beginning to make them now, but initial use may be intended for trucks), but Nissan may decide to stay with the very effective medium duty CVT currently in the Maxima, in which case, they may go with a six speed automatic tranny. But who knows?
Perhaps a seven speed?
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I was indeed ready to post with 'seven speed' in my post, but decided a properly ratioed, well-tested six speed might be the better choice. Once we get into seven or eight or more speeds, it just seems so much more practical to have a CVT. And CVTs for higher torques will be forthcoming. The only thing we know for sure is that any upcoming diesel Maxima will NOT have that 'play-pretty' anachronism from bygone days - the manual; Nissan went five years too far down that highway, and paid a heavy price.
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There are those here who say driving the totally redesigned CVT in the '09 Maxima is definitely better than earlier CVTs. I'm not sure the '09 Murano has the same CVT as the '09 Maxima. If you get the opportunity, you should take a spin in an '09 Maxima and see if it does anything more for you than the Murano CVT.
The CVT is not yet perfect, and I feel it may not yet be as quick off the line as a manual or automatic. But when I pull out to pass, this baby goes from 40 MPH to 80 MPH in a flash; quicker than any of the many Maximas I have owned.
Having said all that, if I lived on a rural farm road somewhere out in west Texas, I would still prefer a manual. Just for old times sake.
The CVT is not yet perfect, and I feel it may not yet be as quick off the line as a manual or automatic. But when I pull out to pass, this baby goes from 40 MPH to 80 MPH in a flash; quicker than any of the many Maximas I have owned.
Having said all that, if I lived on a rural farm road somewhere out in west Texas, I would still prefer a manual. Just for old times sake.
I am sure the CVT will get better and better as it has. I would like to see the 7AT though. I highly doubt it will make it to the maxima unfortunantly(maybe an option 1 day).
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You are right as far as passing is concerned. The murano from a roll is deceptivley quick! Off the line it responds slow.
I am sure the CVT will get better and better as it has. I would like to see the 7AT though. I highly doubt it will make it to the maxima unfortunantly(maybe an option 1 day).
I am sure the CVT will get better and better as it has. I would like to see the 7AT though. I highly doubt it will make it to the maxima unfortunantly(maybe an option 1 day).
If Nissan someday again offers an automatic in the Maxima, I would hope and expect the gasoline version to have a seven speed. In fact, if that doesn't happen until several years down the road, an eight speed auto might be in vogue for 'flagship' sedans by then.
But the torque of the diesel is strong through a fairly wide range of RPMs, so it may be that a specially reinforced six speed might be a better choice in a diesel version.
But then Nissan may go another way entirely, and, along with JATCO, develop a CVT that IS fast off the line, and that has the ability to have the engine turning at 1400 RPMs when cruising smoothly at 80 MPH.
With the government MPG regulations taking effect in 2016, we could be in for an interesting time, tranny=wise, in the next six years.
The 2010 is an actual USB as that is now the International standard for all cell phones. Not sure about ipod but I would imagine Apple will be changing over with the new hardware refresh.
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I tend to see this differently. The auto market is in a desperate state. Nissan is simply doing what all makers are doing right now: trying to stay in business one more year. The idea they 'f*cked over' their first-year buyers does not appply in these times. Every brand is doing whatever they can to stay alive.
Also, there are many Maxima owners out there who gain nothing by the changes for '10. I was only interested in white, think the '09 wheels are fine, and have more than enough techno stuff in my '09 to keep me busy for the days I have left on this orb.
I personally feel, with times as difficult as these, Nissan was wise to change from their usual way of doing nothing the second year of a new generation and add a few tidbits. Other than the wheels (and two new unneeded colors), the '10 will look exactly like the '09.
Also, there are many Maxima owners out there who gain nothing by the changes for '10. I was only interested in white, think the '09 wheels are fine, and have more than enough techno stuff in my '09 to keep me busy for the days I have left on this orb.
I personally feel, with times as difficult as these, Nissan was wise to change from their usual way of doing nothing the second year of a new generation and add a few tidbits. Other than the wheels (and two new unneeded colors), the '10 will look exactly like the '09.
I'm with you....Im still trying to figure out what I have now. I came from a Titan and 350Z, plenty of whistles for me compared to them
Now the USB connection in the 2010 makes even more sense. I was looking at it from just the perspective of future-proofing the iPod connectivity in case Apple changes it again. However, if USB or rather micro USB is going to be the standard for mobile phone connectivity, it makes all the sense in the world to go ahead and stick a USB connection in the Maxima. I'm betting the USB connectivity is going to open up a lot of possibilities when it comes to connecting different devices apart from the iPod/iPhone. Nissan may not support additional devices natively. However, it is definitely possible that some electronics company or another will come up with an adapter type device that will allow alternative media devices to play and be controlled over an interface meant for an iPod.
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I was indeed ready to post with 'seven speed' in my post, but decided a properly ratioed, well-tested six speed might be the better choice. Once we get into seven or eight or more speeds, it just seems so much more practical to have a CVT. And CVTs for higher torques will be forthcoming. The only thing we know for sure is that any upcoming diesel Maxima will NOT have that 'play-pretty' anachronism from bygone days - the manual; Nissan went five years too far down that highway, and paid a heavy price.
Simply put, how can Nissan prove that CVT is more efficient that Auto or Manual, then release a product that has been only avalible with CVT with the "lesser" transmission.
To me, that would be bad marketing, as consumers would start to wonder about Nissan's degrade to Automatic transmissions, leading then to have second thoughts about their CVTs.
I bet that Nissan and Jatco are not making a Six Speed Auto Transmission, but is making a Heavy-Duty CVT, and it most likely use the same AWD used in the Murano.
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I proposed seven speed because it's being currently being use by Infiniti's sedans. But if you really think of it, Nissan, having already converted their sedan lineup to CVT transmission(which they boast is more fuel efficient than a Manual or Auto), would be taking a step backwards.
Simply put, how can Nissan prove that CVT is more efficient that Auto or Manual, then release a product that has been only avalible with CVT with the "lesser" transmission.
To me, that would be bad marketing, as consumers would start to wonder about Nissan's degrade to Automatic transmissions, leading then to have second thoughts about their CVTs.
I bet that Nissan and Jatco are not making a Six Speed Auto Transmission, but is making a Heavy-Duty CVT, and it most likely use the same AWD used in the Murano.
Simply put, how can Nissan prove that CVT is more efficient that Auto or Manual, then release a product that has been only avalible with CVT with the "lesser" transmission.
To me, that would be bad marketing, as consumers would start to wonder about Nissan's degrade to Automatic transmissions, leading then to have second thoughts about their CVTs.
I bet that Nissan and Jatco are not making a Six Speed Auto Transmission, but is making a Heavy-Duty CVT, and it most likely use the same AWD used in the Murano.
Nissan has not abandoned either the manual or automatic tranny.
In their 'volume sales' lines and econoboxes (Altima, Cube, Frontier, Sentra, Versa and Xterra), a six speed manual is still available, and will probably continue to be available.
Also, the fine JATCO 5 speed sutomatic is still available in Altima, Armada, Pathfinder, Quest, Titan and Xterra, and a 4 speed auto is available in the little Versa.
The CVT is available in the Altima, Cube, Maxima, Murano, Rogue, Sentra and Versa. The Maxima, Murano and Rogue are the only three Nissans in which the ONLY option is the CVT.
I understand, and agree with your thought that Nissan would now probably consider it a non-sequitur to go 'back' to an automatic tranny in the Maxima. Like you, I would feel they and JATCO are already at work on the next generation CVT, which should be stronger, in order to handle increased torque, and possibly have a higher 'overdrive' capability (via combined hardware and software improvements) that might enable a vehicle to cruise at 80MPH while the engine is only turning around a gas-sipping 1.4K rpms.
I would feel the exception to a CVT in future Maximas might happen if a diesel Maxima with over 400 foot pounds of torque was released, and Nissan was not sure if the CVT was ready for that kind of torque.
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unfortunantly Nissan is not using the 5AT in the Altima anymore. The last Automatic in the altima was in 2006. 2007 Nissan gave the altima the CVT for 4cyl and 6cyl models with a 6MT option for both engine choices.
Now the USB connection in the 2010 makes even more sense. I was looking at it from just the perspective of future-proofing the iPod connectivity in case Apple changes it again. However, if USB or rather micro USB is going to be the standard for mobile phone connectivity, it makes all the sense in the world to go ahead and stick a USB connection in the Maxima. I'm betting the USB connectivity is going to open up a lot of possibilities when it comes to connecting different devices apart from the iPod/iPhone. Nissan may not support additional devices natively. However, it is definitely possible that some electronics company or another will come up with an adapter type device that will allow alternative media devices to play and be controlled over an interface meant for an iPod.
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The 3.0 V6 dCi 235 diesel in Europe has a 6 speed auto offered in the Renault Laguna Coupe GT . 0-60 in 7.2 seonds, 39.4 MPG COMBINE for a 3600lb car. Similar weight to the 09 max.
Imagine this engine in the new maxima. This engine is toned down, there is alot more power and torgue in it. Bring Back the Diesel option.
A variety of engine options are available but my choice of the new six cylinder 3.0-litre diesel was the icing on the cake.
This V6 dCi is a superbly refined unit which in the Coupe gives outstanding performance in a very upmarket way, seemingly thumbing its nose at the nippy but noisy hatchbacks around it.
From inside the car you get a whole new view of the motoring world outside as it cossets you in supreme silence - and delivers its performance in the same way. This may be a diesel but there is very little noise and an awful lot of performance.
This V6 dCi is a superbly refined unit which in the Coupe gives outstanding performance in a very upmarket way, seemingly thumbing its nose at the nippy but noisy hatchbacks around it.
From inside the car you get a whole new view of the motoring world outside as it cossets you in supreme silence - and delivers its performance in the same way. This may be a diesel but there is very little noise and an awful lot of performance.
The Laguna Coupe is the first Renault/Nissan alliance car to get this smooth and refined diesel but it will also find its way into a series of models from sister-brands Infiniti and Nissan in 2009. Posting a 7.3-second 0-62mph time and 151mph top speed but still offering 39.2mpg and a 192g/km CO2 rating make it a strong top-end proposition. It's expected to take about 10% of sales.
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Of course you are absolutely correct. I goofed on the Altima.
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Interesting information.
For Immediate Release
2010 Nissan Maxima Specifications
Specifications are based on latest product information available at the time of printing
Mechanical
Engine
Name VQ35
Cam design DOHC
Orientation Transverse
Cylinders / configuration V6
Block / head composition Aluminum / aluminum
Displacement (liters) 3.5
Displacement (cubic inches) 214.0
Horsepower 290 @ 6,400 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 261 @ 4,400 rpm
Bore & stroke (mm) 95.5 x 81.4
Compression ratio (:1) 10.6
Spark plugs Double-tipped iridium
Maximum engine speed 6,600 rpm
Induction system Sequential multi-point electronic fuel injection
Valvetrain 4 valves per cylinder with E-VTC
Engine mounts (4 mounts per vehicle)
2 electronically controlled, 2 solid w/antitorque rod
Recommended fuel Premium unleaded
Emissions system Closed loop alpha control, ECCS
Emission certification level 50 state: LEV2-ULEV/Tier 2 Bin 5;
Non-50 State/Federal: Tier 2, Bin 5
Exhaust Type
Configuration
High capacity muffler
Dual exhaust with dual chrome finishers
Electrical
Ignition system Electronic, Nissan Direct Ignition System
(NDIS)
Starter 1.7 kW
Alternator 130 Amp.
Battery 12V-550Ah (5HR)
For Immediate Release
2010 Nissan Maxima Specifications
Specifications are based on latest product information available at the time of printing
Mechanical
Engine
Name VQ35
Cam design DOHC
Orientation Transverse
Cylinders / configuration V6
Block / head composition Aluminum / aluminum
Displacement (liters) 3.5
Displacement (cubic inches) 214.0
Horsepower 290 @ 6,400 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 261 @ 4,400 rpm
Bore & stroke (mm) 95.5 x 81.4
Compression ratio (:1) 10.6
Spark plugs Double-tipped iridium
Maximum engine speed 6,600 rpm
Induction system Sequential multi-point electronic fuel injection
Valvetrain 4 valves per cylinder with E-VTC
Engine mounts (4 mounts per vehicle)
2 electronically controlled, 2 solid w/antitorque rod
Recommended fuel Premium unleaded
Emissions system Closed loop alpha control, ECCS
Emission certification level 50 state: LEV2-ULEV/Tier 2 Bin 5;
Non-50 State/Federal: Tier 2, Bin 5
Exhaust Type
Configuration
High capacity muffler
Dual exhaust with dual chrome finishers
Electrical
Ignition system Electronic, Nissan Direct Ignition System
(NDIS)
Starter 1.7 kW
Alternator 130 Amp.
Battery 12V-550Ah (5HR)
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That would be nice. I accomplish the same thing by just turning the system off until I am ready to resume listening, then turn it on again, and it starts back exactly where it stopped. But a pause button would be 'cleaner'.
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No, actually I don't honestly. My biggest issue is that some idiot will find a way to mod it where it can be watched while driving.
American roads are already filled with drivers that absolutely cannot drive and do anything else without being a risk to others. Cellphones, texting, laptops, gadgets to click and play with that distract them from their primary purpose of being in a vehicle.
That puts myself, my wife, my child and my friends at risk.
Even tho my cellphone is connected to my car and the car has built in hands free, I still don't use it. In the last year, I think I spoke on the phone 2 times from my car. (and 1 of those I was in the parking lot of the grocery store planning on leaving...... until the wifey changed the plans and sent me back in.)
So, no, I don't see the need or purpose in that at all.
* oh yeah, and most of my DVD's have been sold/traded/given to other family. I prefer bluray personally.
American roads are already filled with drivers that absolutely cannot drive and do anything else without being a risk to others. Cellphones, texting, laptops, gadgets to click and play with that distract them from their primary purpose of being in a vehicle.
That puts myself, my wife, my child and my friends at risk.
Even tho my cellphone is connected to my car and the car has built in hands free, I still don't use it. In the last year, I think I spoke on the phone 2 times from my car. (and 1 of those I was in the parking lot of the grocery store planning on leaving...... until the wifey changed the plans and sent me back in.)
So, no, I don't see the need or purpose in that at all.
* oh yeah, and most of my DVD's have been sold/traded/given to other family. I prefer bluray personally.
and yeah, Blu-rays are much sharper and can hold more movies...
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I have the same problem, in that my wife and I are virtually always in the car together (both retired), and whichever one of us is the passenger is very limited in what we can do with our media/navi system.
BUT
When driving around Atlanta (or almost anywhere), we are always noticing that most cars have only the driver in them, and most of those drivers are doing something that is definitely distracting them from their driving. Text messaging is perhaps the worst. It seems most teens are not yet intelligent enough to understand that texting while driving is more dangerous than driving drunk.
As unfair as it may seem, when I see how incredibly stupid half the drivers on the road are, I am 100% against allowing anything else that might add to the driver's distraction. I would even go so far as to have a device in vehicles that blocks all cell calls in or out while the vehicle is moving. I have been hit twice (actually had my truck turned over) by drivers who were concentrating on their cell phone calls and ran red lights.
I understand there are those who feel they need to carry on business while driving, and think they can talk on a cell without diminishing their driving alertness. Any rational person knows that is not true. The alertness may be diminished less for some drivers than for others, but it will ALWAYS be diminished if we are doing ANYTHING but driving.
All safety research supports this view, and Nissan knows this.
