View Poll Results: Should Nissan get rid of the Sound Generator?
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll
Sound Generator?
07-28-2009 | 05:42 PM
#5
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
The Sound Generator is the noise you hear that makes your car sound as if it is shifting and it kinda gives a Growling noise when you jump on the CVT.
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
Pretty cool and amazing huh??
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
Pretty cool and amazing huh??
07-28-2009 | 11:13 PM
#6
The Sound Generator is the noise you hear that makes your car sound as if it is shifting and it kinda gives a Growling noise when you jump on the CVT.
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
Pretty cool and amazing huh??
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
Pretty cool and amazing huh??
07-29-2009 | 05:04 AM
#7
The Sound Generator is the noise you hear that makes your car sound as if it is shifting and it kinda gives a Growling noise when you jump on the CVT.
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
Pretty cool and amazing huh??
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
Pretty cool and amazing huh??
07-29-2009 | 09:37 AM
#10
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 372
From: Washington D.C.
Just like bk2k3max stated above:
The Sound Generator is the noise you hear that makes your car sound as if it is shifting and it kinda gives a Growling noise when you jump on the CVT.
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
The Sound Generator is the noise you hear that makes your car sound as if it is shifting and it kinda gives a Growling noise when you jump on the CVT.
Nissan made the Sound Generator and piped it into the interior of our cars so that we can hear it and make it seem as though the CVT is going through the gears because without it (Sound Generator) the car/CVT was too quiet and we wouldn't know what's going on.
07-29-2009 | 09:49 AM
#11
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
We have 2 (BLACKNESS MONSTA, MadMax07SL) who think that Nissan should get rid of it. That's ok
Any particular reasons??
Last edited by bk2k3max; 07-29-2009 at 09:51 AM.
07-29-2009 | 10:16 AM
#12
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,132
Only because I didn't know what the phu<k it was in the first place. I have a 6.5 gen, so I guess I don't have one to begin with, so you can null my vote if you'd like.
The poll is kind of dumb if you're going to single out people that don't agree with you, but if that that's the way you roll.
The poll is kind of dumb if you're going to single out people that don't agree with you, but if that that's the way you roll.
07-29-2009 | 11:29 AM
#13
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 910
From: Alberta, Canada
Only because I didn't know what the phu<k it was in the first place. I have a 6.5 gen, so I guess I don't have one to begin with, so you can null my vote if you'd like.
The poll is kind of dumb if you're going to single out people that don't agree with you, but if that that's the way you roll.
The poll is kind of dumb if you're going to single out people that don't agree with you, but if that that's the way you roll.
uppet:
07-29-2009 | 11:34 AM
#14
Not sure what a Prius really sounds like but basically you wouldn't hear anything from the CVT and they (Nissan) did pipe in sound from the Engine to give it that sound as MaxLover said.
We have 2 (BLACKNESS MONSTA, MadMax07SL) who think that Nissan should get rid of it. That's ok
Any particular reasons??
We have 2 (BLACKNESS MONSTA, MadMax07SL) who think that Nissan should get rid of it. That's ok
Any particular reasons??
07-29-2009 | 12:42 PM
#17
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,132
Anyway, seriously I thought I was replying to a 6th gen post, and was interested about the situation should it have existed in the 6th gen. I'm not a hot rod, so the quieter inside the better...regardless of generation.
07-29-2009 | 01:16 PM
#18
07-29-2009 | 02:48 PM
#19
I guess that's why I never knew about it, because it is totally contained under the hood. There is no inlet to the interior. The device really does exist though. It is simply a tuned baffle tube attached to the intake plumbing, located between the throttle body and the air cleaner. If you desire, it is very easy to remove and cap the opening with a plastic plug of some sort. Then you can have your quiet back.
07-29-2009 | 06:02 PM
#20
i think dis is all BS show me where theres a "SOUND GENERATOR" station on or inside the car show me facts please someone....thanks
The husky V-6 makes lovely sounds as it revs (the Maxima cabin is so well-isolated that Nissan actually had to pipe some exhaust notes back in through a so-called "sound generator"), but given the CVT's unusual torque delivery (revs eventually hold steady while vehicle speed continues to climb), the acceleration experience isn't as satisfying as it might be.
The husky V-6 makes lovely sounds as it revs (the Maxima cabin is so well-isolated that Nissan actually had to pipe some exhaust notes back in through a so-called "sound generator"), but given the CVT's unusual torque delivery (revs eventually hold steady while vehicle speed continues to climb), the acceleration experience isn't as satisfying as it might be.
Last edited by NiteCrawler; 07-29-2009 at 06:08 PM.
07-29-2009 | 07:33 PM
#22
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,143
From: a meadow south of Atlanta
[QUOTE=NiteCrawler;7135755]i think dis is all BS show me where theres a "SOUND GENERATOR" station on or inside the car show me facts please someone....thanks
The sound generator was mentioned in the Maxima intro over 16 months ago, and I have seen it mentioned in several pieces of literature and mag testing reports since. It was discussed at length here on the ORG last summer.
It is not actually a sound generator as such, but just a simple little thingie to carry some small portion of the existing noise near the intake manifold into the cabin. Nissan said that, without this noise, the cabin was insulated from anything that would give the driver a feel for what was going on under the hood.
Nothing fancy involved. Except for possible fumes problems, almost the same thing could have been done by drilling a little hole in the firewall.
The sound generator was mentioned in the Maxima intro over 16 months ago, and I have seen it mentioned in several pieces of literature and mag testing reports since. It was discussed at length here on the ORG last summer.
It is not actually a sound generator as such, but just a simple little thingie to carry some small portion of the existing noise near the intake manifold into the cabin. Nissan said that, without this noise, the cabin was insulated from anything that would give the driver a feel for what was going on under the hood.
Nothing fancy involved. Except for possible fumes problems, almost the same thing could have been done by drilling a little hole in the firewall.
07-30-2009 | 05:32 AM
#24
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 20
I'm not buying the "Sound Generator" story without real technical evidence visa vi a factor spec sheet.
This sounds like something an over zealous teenager made up as he was bragging about his Maxima in the street.
The sounds I hear from my 2009 are exactly what I would expect from a car of this type.
A CVT is not necessarily "silent" it just doesn't have traditional shift points.
It still makes sounds, and ratio still change in a sense, but like a standard tranny.
This sounds like something an over zealous teenager made up as he was bragging about his Maxima in the street.
The sounds I hear from my 2009 are exactly what I would expect from a car of this type.
A CVT is not necessarily "silent" it just doesn't have traditional shift points.
It still makes sounds, and ratio still change in a sense, but like a standard tranny.
07-30-2009 | 12:02 PM
#25
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
I'm not buying the "Sound Generator" story without real technical evidence visa vi a factor spec sheet.
This sounds like something an over zealous teenager made up as he was bragging about his Maxima in the street.
The sounds I hear from my 2009 are exactly what I would expect from a car of this type.
A CVT is not necessarily "silent" it just doesn't have traditional shift points.
It still makes sounds, and ratio still change in a sense, but like a standard tranny.
This sounds like something an over zealous teenager made up as he was bragging about his Maxima in the street.
The sounds I hear from my 2009 are exactly what I would expect from a car of this type.
A CVT is not necessarily "silent" it just doesn't have traditional shift points.
It still makes sounds, and ratio still change in a sense, but like a standard tranny.
Obviously you're a Noob to call an Ol Fart like me a "Teenager" but if you must know then here goes:
http://www.tirekick.com/TK07/09NissanMaxima.htm
Though partly simulated, the engine snarl that occurs during acceleration is tolerable, yet troubling. Despite protestations that enthusiasts crave such sounds, it just seems a little out of character for a company's flagship. The tonal quality derived from the engine's "sound generator" won't appeal to everyone.
Base-model update: Quiet running is the rule with Nissan's Maxima S sedan. Even though the "sound generator" (described above) is built-in, its effect is markedly less noticeable in the basic sedan, unless it's pushed really hard.
http://www.automedia.com/2009_Nissan...ts20080801nm/1
Next time do a little research before you try to Diss, ok Noob?? LOL!
Last edited by bk2k3max; 07-30-2009 at 12:14 PM.
07-31-2009 | 06:06 AM
#27
Ok, so i did a little research.
Here's a couple of pictures of the infamous "sound generator":
It is impossible to see this when installed in the car. It wraps around the rear of the engine, invisible to the casual glance. It can be felt by hand with a little effort.
This tube creates noise under the hood from the intake air. There is NO direct inlet to the interior of the car. This "noise" is heard under heavy acceleration, then perceived as a performance indicator. It does absolutely nothing; there is no affect on the engine or CVT, nor does it alter or determine any shift points.
There is no reason why this small device could not be easily deleted. The tube attached to the intake hose can easily be removed and the hole plugged with a PVC pipe cap or something similar.
Here's a couple of pictures of the infamous "sound generator":
It is impossible to see this when installed in the car. It wraps around the rear of the engine, invisible to the casual glance. It can be felt by hand with a little effort.
This tube creates noise under the hood from the intake air. There is NO direct inlet to the interior of the car. This "noise" is heard under heavy acceleration, then perceived as a performance indicator. It does absolutely nothing; there is no affect on the engine or CVT, nor does it alter or determine any shift points.
There is no reason why this small device could not be easily deleted. The tube attached to the intake hose can easily be removed and the hole plugged with a PVC pipe cap or something similar.
07-31-2009 | 07:02 AM
#28
Ok, so i did a little research.
Here's a couple of pictures of the infamous "sound generator":
Attachment 1195
Attachment 1196
It is impossible to see this when installed in the car. It wraps around the rear of the engine, invisible to the casual glance. It can be felt by hand with a little effort.
This tube creates noise under the hood from the intake air. There is NO direct inlet to the interior of the car. This "noise" is heard under heavy acceleration, then perceived as a performance indicator. It does absolutely nothing; there is no affect on the engine or CVT, nor does it alter or determine any shift points.
There is no reason why this small device could not be easily deleted. The tube attached to the intake hose can easily be removed and the hole plugged with a PVC pipe cap or something similar.
Here's a couple of pictures of the infamous "sound generator":
Attachment 1195
Attachment 1196
It is impossible to see this when installed in the car. It wraps around the rear of the engine, invisible to the casual glance. It can be felt by hand with a little effort.
This tube creates noise under the hood from the intake air. There is NO direct inlet to the interior of the car. This "noise" is heard under heavy acceleration, then perceived as a performance indicator. It does absolutely nothing; there is no affect on the engine or CVT, nor does it alter or determine any shift points.
There is no reason why this small device could not be easily deleted. The tube attached to the intake hose can easily be removed and the hole plugged with a PVC pipe cap or something similar.
07-31-2009 | 08:00 AM
#29
Ok, so i did a little research.
Here's a couple of pictures of the infamous "sound generator":
Attachment 1195
Attachment 1196
It is impossible to see this when installed in the car. It wraps around the rear of the engine, invisible to the casual glance. It can be felt by hand with a little effort.
This tube creates noise under the hood from the intake air. There is NO direct inlet to the interior of the car. This "noise" is heard under heavy acceleration, then perceived as a performance indicator. It does absolutely nothing; there is no affect on the engine or CVT, nor does it alter or determine any shift points.
There is no reason why this small device could not be easily deleted. The tube attached to the intake hose can easily be removed and the hole plugged with a PVC pipe cap or something similar.
Here's a couple of pictures of the infamous "sound generator":
Attachment 1195
Attachment 1196
It is impossible to see this when installed in the car. It wraps around the rear of the engine, invisible to the casual glance. It can be felt by hand with a little effort.
This tube creates noise under the hood from the intake air. There is NO direct inlet to the interior of the car. This "noise" is heard under heavy acceleration, then perceived as a performance indicator. It does absolutely nothing; there is no affect on the engine or CVT, nor does it alter or determine any shift points.
There is no reason why this small device could not be easily deleted. The tube attached to the intake hose can easily be removed and the hole plugged with a PVC pipe cap or something similar.
08-02-2009 | 04:10 PM
#30
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 643
From: Vancouver, Canada
Someone told me that Infiniti "accoustically trains" their exhaust systems to sound the way they do. An exhaust sound like the one from the G37 or FX35 would really give the Maxima an edge over all other FWD sedans. That IMO would be better than just the sound generator by itself.
08-02-2009 | 05:14 PM
#31
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 15
From: Chicago
I don't think the "Sound Generator" is a game changer either way. I guess I would like to hear a comparison with and without it. Something tells me the car would still sound fine without it. Meh, I guess we will find out when they drop it.
08-03-2009 | 11:59 AM
#32
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
Someone told me that Infiniti "accoustically trains" their exhaust systems to sound the way they do. An exhaust sound like the one from the G37 or FX35 would really give the Maxima an edge over all other FWD sedans. That IMO would be better than just the sound generator by itself.
Right now I'm at work (crappy Gov't computers don't allow us to Youtube) so I can't provide the link but once I get home I will.
They sounded eerily similar to me/you couldn't hardly tell the difference.
08-03-2009 | 02:22 PM
#33
Someone told me that Infiniti "accoustically trains" their exhaust systems to sound the way they do. An exhaust sound like the one from the G37 or FX35 would really give the Maxima an edge over all other FWD sedans. That IMO would be better than just the sound generator by itself.
08-03-2009 | 02:42 PM
#34
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
08-03-2009 | 07:13 PM
#35
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 643
From: Vancouver, Canada
Actually, I believe there's a video on Youtube that did a Sound Comparison of the 09 Max and a G35 Sedan and you couldn't hardly tell the difference.
Right now I'm at work (crappy Gov't computers don't allow us to Youtube) so I can't provide the link but once I get home I will.
They sounded eerily similar to me/you couldn't hardly tell the difference.
Right now I'm at work (crappy Gov't computers don't allow us to Youtube) so I can't provide the link but once I get home I will.
They sounded eerily similar to me/you couldn't hardly tell the difference.
08-03-2009 | 08:13 PM
#36
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
The video comparison was made by the owner of both of those cars, so I'm certain that he has no biases.
I'd glady take the word over the guy who owns both cars.
Last edited by bk2k3max; 08-03-2009 at 08:17 PM.
08-04-2009 | 12:23 AM
#37
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 643
From: Vancouver, Canada
To answer your question: I formed my opinion after driving the 09 a couple times and driving a G35 and FX35 numerous times.
Im not "downing" the 09 like u said in ur previous post. I think the 09 is the best Max ever built. The only thing i dont like is the CVT but in every other way its better than my 04...
08-04-2009 | 03:40 AM
#38
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,055
OK, so far according to the Poll there are more ppl who prefer that Nissan keep the Sound Generator.
There are only 6 who said that they should get rid of it but they haven't exactly posted why, and out of that 6 there are 2 of them who do not even own an 09 Maxima.
Maybe those 2 have driven one and feel that a drive or two qualifies them to vote in the Poll but next time I will make it exclusive to only those who own the car as they will have quality time spent behind the wheel to do an assessment based on their day to day experiences with the car.
There are only 6 who said that they should get rid of it but they haven't exactly posted why, and out of that 6 there are 2 of them who do not even own an 09 Maxima.
Maybe those 2 have driven one and feel that a drive or two qualifies them to vote in the Poll but next time I will make it exclusive to only those who own the car as they will have quality time spent behind the wheel to do an assessment based on their day to day experiences with the car.
08-04-2009 | 08:51 AM
#39
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,843
From: Central Florida
I voted to remove it...not because it is annoying but I don't believe it is needed. Why make anything more "noisy" than it has to be? (but yeah, I was one of those guys back in the 70s who installed "glass packs" though)
Personally, all I want is the performance (read ride, dependability, comfort and power(when I want it.)) I don't need the fumes (i.e. like at the track) or noise, or trick lights under the car....just performance. I realize that not everyone agrees (just ask some bikers who use straight pipes) but that is why there are mod kits and procedures (whither for power or show!)
Obviously though, it wasn't a big factor in my buying decision or I wouldn't have bought my Max and why I haven't taken any steps to remove it but had it been an "option," I wouldn't have opted for it.
Personally, all I want is the performance (read ride, dependability, comfort and power(when I want it.)) I don't need the fumes (i.e. like at the track) or noise, or trick lights under the car....just performance. I realize that not everyone agrees (just ask some bikers who use straight pipes) but that is why there are mod kits and procedures (whither for power or show!)
Obviously though, it wasn't a big factor in my buying decision or I wouldn't have bought my Max and why I haven't taken any steps to remove it but had it been an "option," I wouldn't have opted for it.
08-04-2009 | 08:54 PM
#40
I voted to remove it...not because it is annoying but I don't believe it is needed. Why make anything more "noisy" than it has to be? (but yeah, I was one of those guys back in the 70s who installed "glass packs" though)
Personally, all I want is the performance (read ride, dependability, comfort and power(when I want it.)) I don't need the fumes (i.e. like at the track) or noise, or trick lights under the car....just performance. I realize that not everyone agrees (just ask some bikers who use straight pipes) but that is why there are mod kits and procedures (whither for power or show!)
Obviously though, it wasn't a big factor in my buying decision or I wouldn't have bought my Max and why I haven't taken any steps to remove it but had it been an "option," I wouldn't have opted for it.
Personally, all I want is the performance (read ride, dependability, comfort and power(when I want it.)) I don't need the fumes (i.e. like at the track) or noise, or trick lights under the car....just performance. I realize that not everyone agrees (just ask some bikers who use straight pipes) but that is why there are mod kits and procedures (whither for power or show!)
Obviously though, it wasn't a big factor in my buying decision or I wouldn't have bought my Max and why I haven't taken any steps to remove it but had it been an "option," I wouldn't have opted for it.