7th Generation Maxima (2009-2015) Come in and talk about the 7th generation Maxima

Winter tire question

Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:16 AM
  #1  
davey6693's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 325
From: Waterloo, Canada
Winter tire question

Does anyone know if a set of P215/55R/17s (or possibly P225/55R/17s) would fit my vehicle for the winter. (2009, Premium).

I'm most concerned about the wheels themselves clearing the brake assembly. Is there a wheel hub diameter I should be looking to clear here. Anyone running those 17s mind telling me which wheels you have with them?

Thanks.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 09:54 AM
  #2  
1sik4dsc's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,204
From: NY
17s? i never seen a 7th gen with less than 18s on them...post up pics if u choose to put them on , would like to see this
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 10:48 AM
  #3  
gizzsdad's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 836
From: Central Iowa
According to Tire Rack they will. They're usually pretty good about that stuff.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:19 AM
  #4  
lightonthehill's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,143
From: a meadow south of Atlanta
My 1927 edition Kueffel & Esser slide rule says either of those sizes should fit under the 7th gen Maxima.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:31 AM
  #5  
davey6693's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 325
From: Waterloo, Canada
Thanks guys. I had seen on tirerack.com that they were willing to sell me those 17s for the vehicle..I get slightly nervous paying $500 in shipping and duty to get them over the border so it's good to get second opinions. And before you ask, yes even at that price they still beat what I would pay here in Canada

light, thanks for taking the time to measure. I had intended to do the same when trying to fit my wife's winters from an older vehicle last night. The 16s in question were no hopers (i.e would not fit over the brake calipers) and I was too flustered at the time to measure out for 17s.

I will post a confirmation when I get them installed.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:06 PM
  #6  
Mreim769's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 910
From: Alberta, Canada
Try 1010tires.com before you go crazy with $500 shipping+duty. Really great site with lots of tires and wheels possibly more then tirerack.com.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:18 PM
  #7  
noboy's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 5
From: Ontario, Canada
I just had a set of P215/55R/17 Blizzacks put on yesterday. No problem with the fit.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:55 PM
  #8  
CT Maxima's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 271
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
My 1927 edition Kueffel & Esser slide rule says either of those sizes should fit under the 7th gen Maxima.
LOL!

Light, the slipstick does not have the precision to make the call. Give me an HP any day.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 04:26 PM
  #9  
lightonthehill's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,143
From: a meadow south of Atlanta
Originally Posted by CT Maxima
LOL!

Light, the slipstick does not have the precision to make the call. Give me an HP any day.

But . . . but . . . I just used baby talc to lubricate the the slide bar, ensuring the action is smooth and free. At least give me credit for moving up a notch from my old bead-on-rod manual abacus.

Like many folks, I am often not completely positive about the fit when stepping up many sizes in a tire. In the old days (1950s and 1960s), I would usually go to a dealer and stand the proposed tire next to a duplicate of the current tire, mentally adjusting for the additional height the proposed taller tire will add to the car, pause as I pretended to make complicated mental calculations, then turn to the tire salesperson and tell him to mount one on the front of the car, turn the steering lock-to-lock, and if it fits, mount the other three.

These days, I simply take the outside width (always in millimeters), then, determine the height above rim bead seat by using the profile (40, 45, 50, 55, etc) as a percentage of the outside width.

In other words, a 245/45VR18 tire is 245 mm at its widest point (outermost part of the sidewall). Since the profile is 45%, we calculate 45% of the total width (245 mm), and we get 110.25 mm, which is the height of the tread above the bead seat of the rim.

Using that method, we can actually draw a cross section of both the curent tire and the proposed tire on a sheet of paper, and compare them. If going to a smaller (shorter) or larger (taller) wheel, move the cross section of the proposed tire upward (if the new wheel is taller) or downward (if the new wheel is shorter) ONE-HALF inch for each FULL inch difference in size between the current and proposed wheels. This gives us the relationship between the current and proposed tires in relation to the fender, etc.

Having this exact difference in where the new tire will reach as compared to the old tire, we turn the front wheels of the car all the way to one side, then look under the front fender and determine if there is room at all points to accomodate the difference in size of the new tire.

Last edited by lightonthehill; Nov 25, 2009 at 04:28 PM.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 04:33 PM
  #10  
davey6693's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 325
From: Waterloo, Canada
Thanks for suggestions. 17s it will be.
1010tires.com has the tires/rims I'm looking for at $1952 (taxes/shipping included) Canadian, whereas tirerack gets them over the border and to my door for $1660 (taxes/shipping/government rape included) Canadian.

I don't know if it is the Canadian suppliers that are paying way over the odds for tires sold to Canadians, or if they're simply trying to take too much of a cut. Either way it's hard for me to support businesses that can't get anywhere near the US prices, and it's a shame.
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 05:15 PM
  #11  
CT Maxima's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 271
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
These days, I simply take the outside width (always in millimeters), then, determine the height above rim bead seat by using the profile (40, 45, 50, 55, etc) as a percentage of the outside width.

In other words, a 245/45VR18 tire is 245 mm at its widest point (outermost part of the sidewall). Since the profile is 45%, we calculate 45% of the total width (245 mm), and we get 110.25 mm, which is the height of the tread above the bead seat of the rim.

Using that method, we can actually draw a cross section of both the curent tire and the proposed tire on a sheet of paper, and compare them. If going to a smaller (shorter) or larger (taller) wheel, move the cross section of the proposed tire upward (if the new wheel is taller) or downward (if the new wheel is shorter) ONE-HALF inch for each FULL inch difference in size between the current and proposed wheels. This gives us the relationship between the current and proposed tires in relation to the fender, etc.

Having this exact difference in where the new tire will reach as compared to the old tire, we turn the front wheels of the car all the way to one side, then look under the front fender and determine if there is room at all points to accomodate the difference in size of the new tire.
Light, the problem is much easier to solve. The primary goal is to ensure that the speedometer and odo run correctly. This means that the rolling radius of the wheel has got to be maintained. You can go up or down in wheel size and get a variety of tires that will meet this criterion. Usually the matches are not perfect and the speedo and odo will be off a bit. If you wander too far, you also screw up the gearing of the car. But with the CVT, this may not be important.

Some ignore the speedo and go for looks. On a sporty car, lower profile is better. Off road, bigger is better. Venturing far off the Colonel's original recipe will also encounter wheel wheel interference.

See the link below for a handy Java app that does all the calculations for you.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Old Nov 25, 2009 | 07:18 PM
  #12  
smeegle's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by davey6693
Thanks guys. I had seen on tirerack.com that they were willing to sell me those 17s for the vehicle..I get slightly nervous paying $500 in shipping and duty to get them over the border so it's good to get second opinions. And before you ask, yes even at that price they still beat what I would pay here in Canada

light, thanks for taking the time to measure. I had intended to do the same when trying to fit my wife's winters from an older vehicle last night. The 16s in question were no hopers (i.e would not fit over the brake calipers) and I was too flustered at the time to measure out for 17s.

I will post a confirmation when I get them installed.
Can you post a link at tirerack's website that shows the rims your getting? 17's IS the smallest you can go...I just wish steel hubcentric rims were available.....
Old Nov 26, 2009 | 06:51 AM
  #13  
davey6693's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 325
From: Waterloo, Canada
Originally Posted by smeegle
Can you post a link at tirerack's website that shows the rims your getting? 17's IS the smallest you can go...I just wish steel hubcentric rims were available.....
smeegle, here's what I'm looking at
Old Nov 26, 2009 | 07:44 AM
  #14  
Mreim769's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 910
From: Alberta, Canada
Originally Posted by davey6693
Thanks for suggestions. 17s it will be.
1010tires.com has the tires/rims I'm looking for at $1952 (taxes/shipping included) Canadian, whereas tirerack gets them over the border and to my door for $1660 (taxes/shipping/government rape included) Canadian.

I don't know if it is the Canadian suppliers that are paying way over the odds for tires sold to Canadians, or if they're simply trying to take too much of a cut. Either way it's hard for me to support businesses that can't get anywhere near the US prices, and it's a shame.
Man thats a bummer. I was hoping to save you a few bucks. Such backwards thinking in this country sometimes.
Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:45 PM
  #15  
smeegle's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by davey6693
Hey, those are good lookin...nice choice. Post some pic's once you have them on.
Old Nov 28, 2009 | 05:20 PM
  #16  
Chicken Daddy's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 18
Winter Tire and Wheel Set Up

Ali at Tiremag in Concord On. hooked me up with 17" alloy wheels and Blizzak WS60 tires. Car rides nicely and looks pretty good as well. Of course the TPMS warning light is on, but so what? I know there is no malfunction and I know how to check my tire pressure.
Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:47 PM
  #17  
smeegle's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by Chicken Daddy
Ali at Tiremag in Concord On. hooked me up with 17" alloy wheels and Blizzak WS60 tires. Car rides nicely and looks pretty good as well. Of course the TPMS warning light is on, but so what? I know there is no malfunction and I know how to check my tire pressure.
Well, don't jus stand there....post pics for Chris-sakes!
Old Nov 28, 2009 | 09:40 PM
  #18  
lightonthehill's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,143
From: a meadow south of Atlanta
Originally Posted by smeegle
Well, don't jus stand there....post pics for Chris-sakes!

He is in Canada. He was going to post pics, but by the time he got home, there was three feet of snow on the ground. The snow will gradually build up to around 11 or 12 feet by April, then gradually begin melting. The snow should be down to a foot of slush by June, at which time he will post pics.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:56 AM
  #19  
smeegle's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
He is in Canada. He was going to post pics, but by the time he got home, there was three feet of snow on the ground. The snow will gradually build up to around 11 or 12 feet by April, then gradually begin melting. The snow should be down to a foot of slush by June, at which time he will post pics.

I live in Canada as well. You're not that far off...but I wouldn't let that stop me!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MAXSE5SPD
General Maxima Discussion
33
Sep 17, 2022 04:00 AM
MR2 T'd
5th Generation Classifieds (2000-2003)
6
Jul 9, 2021 05:06 AM
jfl330
7th Generation Maxima (2009-2015)
4
Sep 4, 2015 01:44 PM
Johnny9595
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
5
Sep 3, 2015 05:18 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:35 PM.