DANG Light!! You are a much more patient and understanding old soul than I. While I quite understand and admire the brand loyalty you've built over the years, It is a two way street, one I will posit that the local Shell station has forgotten. A $.60 premium is almost usury and (while I am sure it is not illegal) criminal to my way of thinking.

Did the Station Manager ever give a rationale for the disparity? If not, a long time Shelll customer such as you, should perhaps drop a quick note to corporate...I think they might be interested in your thoughts.

 

Station Manager? Around here, most stations are manned by such as a smiling young lass from Hyderabad, a Farsi speaking young man from Riyadh, and a devout Muslim from Chittagong. Knowing only English, a little German (from five semesters of German in college) and some Hangul (from 13 months in Korea), I find myself conversing mostly by hand-waving and pointing.

This old soldier has fought his last (corporate) battle. When refueling near home, I now use Chevron and BP more than Shell because of that Shell station's pricing. On trips, I find most Shell stations are pricing gas just like other brands, and so use it when convenient.

In July, I will be switching to mid-grade (I have done that after 18 months in all my Maximas), as my style of driving, when combined with the local traffic congestion, does not benefit greatly from premium. I would not ever use regular in this car.

 

I understand now and completely agree. My apologies for not thinking this thru with a 2010 mindset. I am limited (in order of proficiency)to only Hillbilly, English, Italian, a bit of Turkish and being able to order my meal in German!!!

 

There is something you can do to get better gas mileage but it is going to cost you upfront and that is to buy a Bullydog and adjust your settings to the "Economy" mode and you'll see a significant increase in gas mileage.

I'm averaging on the highway between 29-32 but in the city I tend to have a heavier foot so I only get 19-21 but I notice when I'm not pushing my car in the city and due to the slower speed limits and longer intervals between stoplights I'm getting 21-23 in the city.

I think it's best if ppl stay off the gas pedal unless you just feel the need for speed or are extremely late for an appointment and you'll surely see better gas mileage.

Other tips; remove items you do not need from the car that can be considered a weight penalty, get lighter weight rims, a lightweight battery and use an octane booster even if you get 91 or 93 gas.

 

Shell V-Power all the way!!

 

Shell V-Power

 

V-power!

It's he only gas I have ever tried in my max. I just took y'alls word on it.

The V-power from what I heard has no ethinol in it but the stickers on the pump says ALL GAS CONTAINS 10% ETHINOL. Which is true?

 

The pumps at my two local Shell stations do not say 10% ethanol so I don't know what to tell you. I used to fill up with any premium that was the cheapest. I used to fill up with 93 Octane Hess, Exxon, or Raceway and was never happy with the fuel economy I was getting. By the way, all the pumps at those stations say 10% ethanol. I switched to Shell premium last year and after about 4 fill-ups I am getting 3-4 mpg better in both city and highway on all my cars. I really noticed a difference with my Acura, went from 21-22mpg avgs to now 26-27mpg avgs. My FX35 went from 16-17mpg avgs to 19-20 mpg avg by switching to V-power. I started filling my Max up with Shell from the very beginning so I don't know what the improvement might have been. So far I've been getting 21-22 mpg avg in the cold winter months on the Max and 22-23mpg in warmer weather with the V-Power!

Shell V-Power

 

How many cars do you currently own Smarty?

 

3 vehicles!

2005 FX35
2008 TL
2010 Max SV

 

What is the scientific reason behind getting better mpg when using a Bullydog?

 

Is one of those your wifes or somthing or can you just not bring yourself to sell or trade in a car you have built a relationship with? Nice cars by the way. I always loved the 2005 style TL. I think it's a classic for that car and looks way nicer than the new one especially for it's day!

 

No we all tend to share. I actually drive the TL most of the time but since we got the Maxima we seem to be using that as the family car when we all go out. The FX has been great and a lot of fun but the mpg is just killing me and they are calling for near $4 bucks a gallon this summer so its going to hurt so I might be getting rid of it in year or so, other than the obviously crappy mpg and huge fuel tank I would recommend the FX to anyone if you can afford it, though it does tend to ride like a jeep but it handles like champ and is a lot of fun to drive on open road! Don't tell the FX but I really like the 08 TL and 10 Max a little bit better!

I tell you though, Infiniti and Nissan really know how to make a killer body style! Even though its almost 6 years old, I still get looks when I drive my FX every where I go. The Maxima is another car I constantly on and off the road see people staring at. That new M is also a killer! I like it a lot!
So, besides your Max's any other rides you care to share about man??

 

My parents and I have put K&N air filters in all of our vehicles since we first heard of them. We keep doing this because we notice an improvement every time of 1-2MPG, which isn't a huge deal in my 4th gen Max going from 29 to 30 on the highway, but it makes a big difference in my dad's F-150 going from 19 to 21 MPG, especially since his job involves a lot of highway driving. We've put them in a Nissan, three Subarus, three Fords, and two Chevrolets over the years. For some vehicles, it helps a lot. Others, the difference is negligible and it's just cheaper than buying replacement filters all the time.

I believe it adjusts your fuel map to the lean edge of the safe zone. That's always been my impression, anyway. Not 100% sure.

 

I usually get 23-24MPG for highway driving, which isn't too bad considering I don't necessarily follow the 65MPH speed limit. I'm about to start a job where 95% of the commute will be highway driving. Of course tomorrow I'm stuck driving my 03 Saturn Vue since my Maxima's in the shop.

 

parked car in garrage MPG screen said 20.5
got in next day started driving.. All the sudden MPGs started climbing 21----21.5----22-------22--23---I was getting so exited but was thinking the computer busted casue mpg climed alot in about 50miles...finaklkly said 24.6

Any way filled up did tank math and got 23.5 MPGs this tank my best yet.

I attribute it to driving in D not Ds and toning down my " stompfoot"

First 7 tanks I averagwed 19.5 MPG I drove alot in Ds cause I liked the shift simulator.

I almost convinced D is actually faster that Ds(i read others saying that ) I think staying in Ds on the highway may have given me worse Mpg aslo.Dont know technicals on why but thinking it keeps the fuel manegment system a little more on the ready and tuned a little different beacuse.

Any comments on that Light? Norm... anything to say pn the technicals.?

 

I personaly think the computer is BS.

I have calculated my average to be between 18-19 if I am lucky in 75% hwy and 25% city driving.

thanks

 

Well a lot has to do with how you drive, what gas you fill up and a variety of other factors. I have found the computer avg fuel economy to be off by 1-1.5 mpg because each time I've filled up and calculated it by hand I have always consistently got 1-1.5mpg less then what the computer said. Right now, the computer says 27.4mpg avg so I know that it will probably be 26mpg when I calculate the avg by hand when I fill up!

 

I have driven several cars over the last few years.
The computer's mpg calculations-from every car-have been very accurate from my experience.

2003 FX45 AWD-15 mpg
2005 FX35 AWD-16 mpg
2007 BMW 335i RWD MT-19 mpg....Shell VPower ALWAYS used
(2010 BMW 328i AT convertible loaner-20 mpg)
2010 Max CVT-22.3 mpg....only 1320 miles on odo right now

My driving has been about the same over the years...60% suburban, 30% Hwy and 10% city.
I am a reasonable driver but punch it every now and again.
I have used any brand name 91+ fuel on my cars EXCEPT on the 335i where I used Shell 93 always.
I have noticed a 1-2 mpg drop when I decided to fill with 89 octane.
So I have decided to stay with Premium 91+.

I also do not think that there is a way to increase gas mileage other than driving as reasonably as possible.

 

I've noticed a way to increase MPG but I don't always follow it because it takes more effort. If I only fill the gas tank halfway full I get better MPG due to less weight. The down side is that you have to get gas twice as much. I noticed this when I was on the way to work and needed to get gas. There wasn't a shell on the way so I had to stop at another station to fill up. Since I perfer shell gas over any other I only filled the tank up half way so that I could put shell into the next time I needed to fill up. By the next fill up I noticed I was getting a little better MPG and wondered if it was the type gas or just the half fill. So next time I went to shell I only filled up half way and noticed the same effect. I don't do this all the time because of the pain of having to fill up twice as often but it seems to show some overall improvement in MPG.

 

lol


Not a bad idea, but not fun.

I wish we just got 26-28 in city
and
35 Hwy

That would be sweet

Man we have to pay like $55 bucks for a fill up, that's alot!

 

Well it must be the way you drive then because I'm just shy of 7k miles right now and with the warmer weather I'm getting 25-26 avgs and 31-34mpg on open highway/interstate so its possible. But I live in rural western NJ so that helps a lot with the gas mileage. This fuel economy this CVT is providing for this much HP and torque is amazing. I can imagine the fuel economy if the CVT is paired with the Diesel!

 

No way your getting that kind of #s, you must not even push the gas! lol haha

 

lol yeah, I found that you have to be a real real real light foot on the gas to get good fuel economy because just a slight amount of force drops the fuel bar to down below 20mpg! Usually what I do is either accelerate from a stop mildly and get up to the speed I want and then very very lightly take my foot on and off the pedal to keep that speed which keeps the bar at 30+mpg or if I'm lazy and don't want to do it myself, I get up to speed and slap the cruise control on and let the car do the work!

You know Nissan used to be joke when it came to fuel economy and just 10 years ago, everyone would say oh, if you want fuel economy you have to get a Honda or Toyota because Nissan is just about power but I can tell you that is no longer the case. Nissan is getting the same if not better fuel economy out of these CVTs then Honda or Toyota. I'm starting to get the avgs in my Maxima I get in my 08 TL which only has 258hp and 233 lbs torque so that is saying something that a engine that much more powerful is getting the same or better fuel economy then a 5spd 3.2L V6 that is pretty good!

Behold the fuel economy power of Nissan and the CVT! Bow down Honda and Toyota!!

 

I also find the comp to be about 1-1.5 above actual calculated MPG

24.6 on screen and I got 23.3

I also wondered if the gas blends have changed over yet and how much that would contribute to better milage?
maybe this lastest tank was summer blend.

I drive 75% hwy 25% local. 68mph on parkway.

 

Another good tip is to not pick up fat chicks... Every pound counts

 

Man Flip you are bad man! but lol


Oh by the way, filled up today, and 27 mpg avg man
I love me some CVT and FWD Maxima

That CVT can rev drone the engine loud every time I accelerate I don't give a ****! I'll take this kind of fuel economy any day of the week!

 

As to the original Ds vs D MPG question, those here on the ORG who carefully measured their fuel efficiency about a year and a half ago arrived at the conclusion that, driving style remaining constant, keeping the tranny in D not only gives the best fuel efficiency, but, for most drivers, also gives the best acceleration times.

Of course those tests were done using the actual fuel consumed rather than what the computer said. The onboard computers are fairly accurate, but not as accurate as the guage at the gas station pump that tells us to the nearest thousandth of a gallon how much fuel we put in the tank.

 

[quote=lightonthehill;7526055]As to the original Ds vs D MPG question, those here on the ORG who carefully measured their fuel efficiency about a year and a half ago arrived at the conclusion that, driving style remaining constant, keeping the tranny in D not only gives the best fuel efficiency, but, for most drivers, also gives the best acceleration times.

Thanks light of course you'd have the answer I was looking for.
After reading some comments to that affect on this forum I began to try D over Ds and I too will say its faster and so far better milage .

27mpgI'll be happy if I can hold 23mpg and still stomp around a little bit.
When stopming in D thought I notice if I stomp carfully not to the floor and try and maintain the fuel so rpm stays constant and not under exessive load then I get better MPG and still accelerate quick.
In a "Better of dead" stop light stomp situation this idea goes out the door though.Damn those ricers they kep screwing up my MPG!!!!

 

[quote=MAXIMUMBS;7526363]Don't feel bad man, I wouldn't snip at 23 mpg either, especially considering how much power is under that hood. I've noticed the mpg's going up the warmer the weather gets too. If I can keep my mpg between 25-27mpg all summer long I'll be a very very happy camper

 

LOL I laughed my rear off at this one. there is a site called http://ecomodder.com/ where people will buy a perfectly brand new car and improve on its aerodynamics and make that car much more fuel efficient. I can get mid 20 mpgs from my 98 maxima with very few mods. There's some guys that are adding close to 50% onto their mileage. I read about a guy on the Explorer forum that is getting 30 mpg on a regular basis. 30 mpg in a vehicle shaped like a brick!

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