You can lease Maximas with sport for about 320 a month with zero down, I call that good value. A 36k car for 320 a month.

 

Obviously the public school system in the Bronx is failing miserably.

 

Exactly, plus if he wants all those additional features then go, buy an Infinity (AWD and more POWARRRR!) and get it over with.

 

Who will commit to buying a 2011 Max if some of the request are made? When the first G was introduced it was called a overpriced Max. Now that the focus has shifted to the G the Max has fallen behind in some areas to allow for the upscale changes added to the G. The G has never been an appealing car to me because it has been treated as the ish to get just like beamers and benzez and lexus were a few years ago. A few post back someone mentioned the minority of people on this forum and so we will have no major influence in future changes unless we identify flaws and not wishes.

 

The CVT is already torque-limited with the VQ3.5. A turbodiesel would have much more torque and would be at odds with the Maxima's sporting character. I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

Currently, you are right.

BUT

The CVT has come a long way since that rubber band powered Dutch D.A.F, and is continuously evolving. I feel CVTs will be able to handle 400 foot pounds of torque within the next ten years.

As to the diesel, Nissan announced in 2008 it was coming out with a diesel Maxima in 2010, and this was stopped only by the recession. The tighter fuel efficiency requirements arriving in 2015 will very likely result in a diesel option for the Maxima (which might get around 36 MPG) with the 8th gen, which should arrive in spring of 2013 as the 2014 model year.

I suspect the CVT woun't quite be ready for the 400 or so foot pounds a diesel typically generates, so the diesel version Maxima will probably have a 6 speed automatic. Nissan learned the hard way the manual is a losing proposition in the Maxima. They couldn't even give them away by the time the manual was dropped after the '06 model year.

 

The only thing the Max lacks compared to the G, is the VQ37, 7Speed Auto and AWD, true the G is also more of a sports sedan to compete with the 3, but I will forgo the few features.

I bought the Max over the G cause I did not want the Infiniti badge, and I liked the larger, more comfortable car over the smaller, harsher package.

Also I think if the Max had the larger engine, 7speed and AWD as an option, I think it would have a cheaper interior and that is another reason I bought the Max over a Dodge Charger, I wanted the V8 and AWD but was not fond of the cheaper materials used for the interior, I wanted a plush car

 

If the Max had those things who would even need to buy the more expensive G? They have a good couple markets cornered with what they are doing right now. Why mess with that?

 

Yes. The only way the Maxima gets everything the G has is if the G is leaving those things and moving up to even better things. Nissan understands brand-separation.

If the Maxima were RWD or AWD (the only options available with the G), I would have ZERO interest in it. I also much prefer the more efficient CVT to the 7 speed auto. These two cars are aimed at different target audiences.

The G is directed to those who are brand-image conscious, and who prefer traditional setups (RWD/AWD, conservative styling, auto tranny, etc), while the Maxima is aimed at those who enjoy newer technology (CVT), and want a practical family car (FWD; best all-around for all kinds of weather), with a very attractive styling edge (Nissan nailed this).

Nissan aimed this 7th gen Maxima directly at me (and at around 50,000 other folks who happen to be like me), and I love every detail of this car.

 

i doubt there gonna changee the 2011 nissan much different

 

i drive a 2010 x and 100 percent the 7th gen is the hottst maxima by far

 

I'd much prefer a CVT with a wider ratio spread than a 7-speed. Moving to automatic is, to me, moving backwards.

 

So what about interior space on new re-designs of the Maxima? I agree with what is said here about the awesome body of the 2009 re-design, and definitely the Maxima offers many interior luxuries (even in the Sport package) that leaves the Altima in the shadows. But I was shocked in comparing the 2010 Max & Alt that the Max is 4" shorter in length -- apparently taking it all from the back seat. I mean, I can still fit back there, but it's not nearly as spacious as the 6th gen was. The G hasn't even been an option for me for years because their back seat is more of a bench to hold your dry-cleaning. My kids are way over the age of 2 and need head and leg room (or me, if my young drivers take over the front!) If I didn't need a back seat, I'd buy a 2-door car...

 

I think the current Maxima is pretty the way it is (prettiest so far in my opinion) but I really dont care for that CVT tranny....

 

The earliest we will have anything different space-wise would be the 2014 model year eighth generation. I have had no problem whatsoever with folks between 5' 11" and 6' 2" sitting both front and rear at the same time. The indentation of the back side of the front seats on the 7th gen picked up an inch or two of knee room, so we didn't lose all 4" in the most important measurement - knee room.

There is nothing wrong with back seat room in the 7th gen. It is similar to all previous Maxima generations except the 6th, which had exceptionally generous back seat room. Best of all, I find the front seating area as comfortable as any car I have ever owned, and, for me, it seemed much roomier than the G37 I sat in briefly.

 

I didn't like previous CVTs either. I kept thinking back to the rubber-band powered Dutch GAF. I was dosappointed when the CVT became the only Maxima tranny with the '07. It took awhile, but this newly redesigned 7th gen Maxima CVT has really convinced me the CVT is a better tranny than I thought it would be at this point, and far better than inflexible haters will ever admit.

I think much of the dislike comes from folks who are still wed to the good old days when a manual tranny was generally associated with a macho image. Of course some of the CVT distaste is from very serious drivers who don't like any automatic tranny, because they take their driving as a lifestyle over which they like complete control, leaving nothing to automation.

 

They are aren't they. Bunch of damn haters! Haters everywhere I go! I guess its because I have so much to hate on. Oh well, what can you do. Let em hate.

 

Yeah those guys really do hate! They are the biggest bunch of haters who ever hate!

 

I definitely agree with your assessment here. I am 6' 2" and am reasonably comfortable in the back seat behind my own driver's seat settings. But the gen 6 spaciousness was extra nice! The boys are 6' 4" now, so I know it's not quite as good for them, though definitely doable. And we take a larger vehicle for long trips anyway..

 

People said the same thing about SMG, and DSG transmissions and it seems Porsche and BMW are focusing more and more on the dual clutch trans.

The CVT is getting better and better with every generation

 

Absolutely. Although always aware that, at an advanced stage of its development, a non-shifting tranny would be a superior performer in both acceleration and fuel efficiency to shifting trannies, I was not expecting the proficiency of this 7th gen Maxima CVT to be reached this soon.

I was very disappointed by Nissan offering only the CVT in the 2007 Maxima, as I knew the CVT was not yet ready to be the only option in any vehicle claiming have a 'sporting' side. I had been buying a new Maxima the first year of each new generation since 1984, but after reading all the reports I could find on the performance of the '07 Maxima CVT, was doubtful I would be buying the first year 7th gen Maxima.

But early 7th gen test reports intrigued me, and the CVT experiences of the first wave of 7th gen buyers here on the ORG convinced me that Nissan had made major improvement in the Maxima CVT.

So I bought my '09.

I understand this CVT will not satisfy some drivers. But after adapting to endless technological changes (many of which I was not excited about) since I began driving in the 1940s, I have learned that clinging to my loves of the past only prevents me from fully embracing the future.

I force myself to avoid the normal mistake of seeing only the downside of the CVT, so, on balance, I find this new 7th gen CVT to be the best overall tranny I have driven in sixty-some years of driving.

 

took the words right out of my mouth

 

Not going to happen! Get over it! Going to a CVT only option should have been your first clue! Too much time, money, research, etc... commited thus far. No turning back now.

 

is this thread spawning into another CVT war?

The CVT Battle Zone

we would love to hear what you have to say.

 

Yeah, starting to look that way, I'm about to do some housecleaning if it continues.