I have seen slight talk about the topic in other treads but I was wondering what is the real differences between D and Ds. Ds is supposed to be "sport" but does it do nothing more than try to simulate transmission shifts to give the driver the conventional tranny feel? Most feel that D is actually faster and others even say that MPG is better in D. Is there anything more to Ds than the shift feel? Should it really ever be used over D in any situation?

 

Other than that I use regular D because that is all you really need, unless your racing of course! (at the track)

 

Can you say what V8's, Im sort of a car snob, and as much as I look at engines, and know which cars not to mess with, it's always good to know but I would probably not even try with an SS Camaro, 5.0 Mustang or RT/SRT8 anything.

I like the CVT, actually the manual mode is probably the best, has me wondering if I will make good on the 120k warranty DS just simulates shifts

 

D IS faster than either Ds or Manual mode because in the latter two modes, the engine power is retarded for the split second it takes to simulate a shift. In D, the engine is delivering full power continuously as the tranny is continuously changing the gear ratio to optimize the engine's power delivery.

From what I've seen, 5.0's are slow. They were fast in their day but now they are slow. They only sported low 200's for horsepower.

 

I think the Ds mode also haas better throttle response.....i use it when driving on a windy road and i think it performs a bit better then D.

 

We have had a few people post time slips to back up that D mode is faster then Ds mode. But I can agree that throttle response is quite a bit better/more fun in Ds mode. Very rarely do I use Ds mode but its fun when I do. I haven't had any problems keeping up with R/T's and 5.0's. Keep in mind they were mostly stock from what I could tell. I am sure if you slap a s/c on them we wouldn't stand a chance but then again whos to say it wouldn't be the other way around if we did the same thing. Keep in mind people that our car has no problems achieving 0-60 in under 6 seconds.

 

I mean modern day 2010 Mustangs, no idea about the new V6 that has like 300hp but the 5.0 I was referring to is the Mustang that was revised to compete against the new Camaro.

I do know of older 5.0, and had friends with them with some upgrades and then they where impressive.

The Maxima can hold it's own, probably way to many cars it runs neck and neck with, need to hit the track and get time slips if you want a clear winner

 

Being a former 5.7L R/T owner, I would find this very hard to believe having owned both... : )

 

Believe it buddy . I have beat both the 300c and Charger R/T

 

When are you getting them after 30 or 40mph ish, as the 09/10 Maxima do not takeoff that fast. They are like 2.6-2.8 to 30 mph which is not fast, it does make up for it as the mph builds although!

 

Just realized that is you over at the zine defending the Maxima in that thread "what constitutes a luxury car", good job. I am over there I'm Monte TLS,Max, my wife had a TLS before her G back in the day.

 

I've noticed that too a little bit. Maybe it just is by feel, but when I put her in Ds and then gun it, it feels like she takes off faster then in D! Regardless, the Max really shows her colors at high speed cruising, I've had her up to 100-110mph easy a couple of times and she feels like she can do more with no problem.

 

Dude...we know...we know....you happened to get the one 7th gen Max that Nissan accidentally dropped their prototype turbine jet engine into and...you have beaten mustangs and corvettes and SRT8's and lambos and ferraris and veyron's and....oh and HOW could I forget....you even beat the stealth jet fighter......

Like we said before in the other thread....you just happened to run against a crappy driver in the Mustang...that's all.

Sorry to sound forward....but it seems like you have to make it a point to talk about how you are spanking cars that under all other circumstances would more than likely hand you your ****.

 

Yeap that is me! I have a 08 TL and this 10 Maxima. I feel I got the best of both words. I love both the TL and the Maxima! Can't go wrong with either car, though the new TL styling is just straining my eyes sometimes. Glad I got my 08 when I did!

 

My brother has a 300C AWD, he will walk me every time we line up, he has gotten to 60 in 5.2, thrown back into the seat, my 09 Maxima, awesome on the highway but not from a light against my brother.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7sh1xi9iw
1:20+ "the car is actually faster if you stand on the gas and let it sort things out in Drive"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHv5pAKyYmc
2:30+ "we found the paddle shifters actually slowed things down

 

Did they know they where running against you, your using the most inaccurate form of comparing cars, I've had a Charger RT pull away from me like I was slowing down, and it all has to do with I let off the gas which killed my throttle/gas and the dude in the Charge floored it at the same time, both drivers need to be on the same page.

Take your car to the track

 

Don't know how well the Maxima would do against an RT 300C/Charger...but I do know that in my 07 G35S 6MT (HR Motor), I would spank 300C's and Chargers like a bad habit.

 

Right, I totally agree with that statement. The R/T would throw you back in your seat as soon as your stomped on the gas. Loved the mean growl of the V8 and the size of the car. When gas was $4.25 a gallon, it was hard to keep it around... The max has filled the void of size and decent gas mileage but I still don't think it would touch my R/T..

 

Only a handful of the races (2 x 5.7L, an 06 GT, 3 x Talons, and a 300zx TT) were on the track being that our local race track is in the midst of being thrown out of its lot as of last season (long story). I am in no way saying this is an absolute end all be all of car comparisons I just know that the driver that was in the other car was indeed trying his best to get around and/or in front of me. And so what, I take a little pride knowing I was a little faster then him that day. Under different circumstances he may have got the best of me, but maybe under different circumstances I may have got the best of him again. You guys are taking this way too seriously. All I am saying is the capability is there.

 

Are you stating that you beat all of these cars?

2 x 5.7L, an 06 GT, 3 x Talons, and a 300zx TT

 

Dont forget R/T's FEEL a lot faster because of the torque.

 

and they are louder and we all know that means faster

 

The 5.7's have really the same performance numbers as the maxima. At the track ive seen a bunch of stock r/t chargers run low 14s, one ran a 13.9 i believe. Our maximas run about the same in the 1/4, including me a couple of members on here have ran high 13s with a few bolt ons

 

I think my post in post #11 sums of the Maxima and the way it delivers power, slow down low but from 30 to 40 on up accelerates quickly and sorta makes up for slow start. No doubt that those R/T have much better low end the Max, I have been in a few and they pull hard from a stop just do not have the best gearing although!

 

Fair enough, this to me sums it up to end the conversation now. If the Talons and 300 ZX were modded at all, it wouldn't even be a contest, especially if they were heavily modded. Good luck with your future races and all your wonderful wins...

 

ahh yes, I completely forgot they remade the engine for 2010 from a 4.6 to a 5.0...[/

 

That would be the upcoming 2011 GT, the 10 still has the 4.6!

 

Yea I know they do, which is why I wasnt in complete disbelief about it. Just really not too familar with how maximas are putting down real world numbers, I know you told me yours, but wasnt sure how stocks werer doing. R/T's are powerfull with a lot of torque...but theyre very heavy.

 

Folks, beat them at the track and provide timeslips for proof. I edited a few obvious posts that break the rules on "road racing", please don't "go there" as it's against the forum rules and the ADMINS will give you a ban if they see it. As a moderator, I don't want to have to ever ban anyone but I do have to enforce the forum rules.

If you have a post here that is IMPLYING road racing that I missed, please edit that part out of your own post. Please don't risk your account over this type of stuff.

 

D mode is definitely faster than DS. I ran a best of 13.9 @ 100mph in D mode vs a best of 14.2 @ 97mph in DS mode about 30mins between these 2 runs.

But even without time slips, it should be clear that continuous power would equal faster acceleration vs brief power cuts to simulate trans shifts. DS definitely has better throttle response though which might be why some think its faster.