DO NOT let this drift towards ROAD RACING.

I removed the youtube videos as they didn't look like they were shot on a TRACK. Rules are rules and I didn't make them, I just make sure that we comply with them.

 

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Originally Posted by twentyeggs

look, i am a seasoned gear head. i know all about what your talking about like the back of my hand. i don't need any lessons. when a car company says 290 at the crank, i say WHO CARES, you can have a million horsepower at the crank, what matters is what it puts down at the wheels.

That's fine.

But keep in mind that 290 is the only number that most of the membership here has to work with, and your original statement

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none of you have 290 unless you did some heavy modding

without qualifying that to "at the wheels" is misleading at best. I realize that you may have business reasons for casting doubts on the factory crank ratings, else people might not be entirely happy after their dyno sheet shows them that even with some tuning "it still makes less power than what Nissan claims for it". The flip side is that what you can get away with by way of explanation to a customer who can't see past peak numbers and visions of significantly better quarter mile times won't always fly where the level of understanding runs a bit deeper.

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and the 0-60, i challenge ANY of you to prove faster than 5.8 sec in a stock maxima. ill give you a free tune and send you 100 buck gift certificate for any aftermarket part on my shelf. maximas do 0-60 in a little under 7 seconds. 5.8 is a JOKE.

Maybe the press fleet got a "ringer" that time. Wouldn't be the first time that happened. And maybe the Accord was up on the high side of average as well - if I was Honda I'd make sure that nothing with less than average performance went out for review. As far as the actual 0-60 numbers go, I'm not one to argue over 0.2 seconds difference no matter what they are, since in the real world that's a driver's race. With maybe a little back-and-forth on the way due to differences in gearing and the torque supplied.


Norm

 

So now mag times are too fast? Most people say mag times are slow indicating you should be able to beat these times. To me this indicates you can't drive or your car is broke. Did you take your car to a track to get it officially timed?

 

Does it really matter what the HP or 0-60 time is considering we lose 90% of our power in that range anyway? I would think speaking in the terms you guys are, you'd need to subtract the % of power we lose in that range from the total before saying Nissan lost any "HP war" since they intentionally squashed our off the line power. Who cares if we have 290hp if we can only use 200 of it 0-60. Or maybe i'm sleep deprived and i've completely gone off track haha.

 

i like you norm, your very logical and seem intelligent, and you put your name at the end of your posts.

i agree with you.

 

mag times have never been slow.. donno what mag your reading. if you were trying to sell something why would you underscore it?

and yes, i had it officially timed

stock:
i got 0-60; 6.2 seconds
quarter @ 14.6

with cai and exhaust and tune (and weight reduction, our 60 lbs spare tire, jack, head rests, glove box, trunk carpet, floor mats, low gas tank) <--- i put all these back the same night, i don't drive around a mutilated car like some do.
0-60: 5.7
quarter 14.0

i have yet to pour into this car like my other ones, but im not going to stop till i hit mid 12's nat asp.

these numbers are very common, in fact, i've done better on my quarter then other maximas with more mods. so my car aint broke lol

 

Something will have to change. I see a maxima running the murano chassis and offering AWD at some point.

 

Car and Driver doesn't sell cars last I checked. They run them, record the time, and write an article about it. Most people in forums say they can easily beat times posted by the C/D, motortrend, etc.. I remember seeing a vid with an explanation from one of the drivers explaining why their times are usually slow is because they don't get a lot of seat time with the cars and they are usually not broken in properly.

 

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...8/results.html

I get 5.6 for the maxima.

 

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1Lz9xzOdN

 

Oops. You're right.

 

While the Maxima is quick-0 to 60 mph in 6.1 sec-the G8 is a full half-second quicker, gunning to 60 mph in just 5.6 sec.

 

I'm not sure what car you've been driving but nearly every Maxima has been faster than just under 7 seconds, I used a timer on my car and I've matched the 5,8 to sixty mark several times and that is with heavy wheelspin.

I'm certain if I can get my tires to hook up without all the excessive wheelspin that my car could do 60 around 5.6 or so.

 

But keep in mind that the referenced Maxima 0-60 testing was done before Nissan came up with the TSB that takes away some of the sluggishness off the line.

I personally feel Nissan wanted to give a little added protection to their newly redesigned CVT until they felt sure it was reliable. Once they felt good about the CVT (during the '10 Maxima production run), they added a ten year/120K mile warranty to the CVT, and came up with a TSB to let more power get to the CVT off the line.

Maybe in order to avoid the expense and time of service departments being swamped with all Maxima drivers wanting the TSB applied (just a guess), they limited it to a VIN range, but sometimes made exceptions for VINs outside that range when drivers were very insistent.

I remember reading the referenced Maxima vs G8 article several years ago, and wondered why on earth someone would be testing a poorly made, unreliable, noisy, 8 cylinder, rough, soon-to-be-extinct muscle car against a smooth, polished, near-luxury, reliable, comfortable 6 cylinder sporty family sedan. Made absolutely zero sense. Why not test a Dodge Challenger against a Rolls-Royce? That would be just as strange.

But all that is beside the point, and I am straying off the subject. I personally have no idea if the 7th gen Maxima can beat 6 seconds 0 to 60, and don't care. I suspect it might have trouble doing that, but don't know.

I do know the Maxima is not designed as a race car. I also know the 7th gen Maxima is the FASTEST FROM 40 MPH TO 80 MPH of any car I have owned in 63 years of driving. THAT is more important for me. It handles very well, which is MUCH more important than elapsed time for me. I can take curves at speed with very little lean. The Infiniti M45 parts added to the Maxima suspension for the 7th gen work very very well.

I love my 7th gen Maxima!......... But it isn't a race car.

 

Well all I can say about that is that there are a couple of people here who has taken their cars to the track and posted timeslips that prove they did 60 in less than 6 seconds so there's no reason to doubt that it could do it and do it rather easy.

 

Best numbers posted here to 60 were somehting like 5.7 seconds, which I think is good for a 3600lb fwd sedan.