Infiniti G37 Sport VS Maxima 2011 prices
I own a 2010 g37 sedan w/premium and Nav package and paid close to 36,5xx for it before tax and financing. I know some people who have claimed to have paid much less for their fully loaded G's. I myself made no negotiations, I just took what they were offering. My 06 Maxima had left me stranded for the second time due to transmission problems so I was just fed up and needed a car. The 7th Gen Maxima along with the G37 was on the top of my list. I love both cars. I chose the G because I'm not a big fan of the CVT transmission. The Maxima is alot more roomier than the G in the inside and has alot more trunk space. It also offers some options that the G didn't fully loaded e.g Panoramic Roof, Heated Steering wheel, Reverse tilt down mirrors etc. But the G is faster, and also has some features not offered in the Maxima. Both cars are great cars. Even though the interior of the G is not as roomy as the Maxima, It can still comfortably fit 5 people. I consider my G a two seater though because I dont want anyone in my backseat. Both cars are totally different driving experiences. If I needed the extra room and could adjust to the CVT i would have probably gone with the Maxima. I still get to drive both cars though because my carpool buddy has a 2009 maxima and she hates driving so I always drive her car when its her week to drive.
^^^ There probably is a reason some of the features aren't offered in the G, while you can get them on the Maxima. For the life of me, I can't figure out why they didn't make the tilt down mirrors an option. Maybe because the backup camera is standard?
The panoramic sunroof I can understand why this wasn't offered on the G. I think it would result in too much body flex for a sports sedan.
The panoramic sunroof I can understand why this wasn't offered on the G. I think it would result in too much body flex for a sports sedan.
Last edited by G37guy01; Aug 13, 2011 at 06:35 AM.
That's like passing gas in a crowded restaurant, then standing up and apologizing to everyone.In other words, sometimes when you do something really embarrassing, it's best to keep it to yourself.
Please enlighten me on why I should be embarrassed. I already knew how much money I was prepared to spend and I wasn't with all the back and forth with negotiations. They offered something within my budget and i took it. Nothing to be embarrased about. Especially when I'm not physically standing in front of anyone. Why would I get embarrassed over the internet. Really guy???? SMH in disbelief.
Please enlighten me on why I should be embarrassed. I already knew how much money I was prepared to spend and I wasn't with all the back and forth with negotiations. They offered something within my budget and i took it. Nothing to be embarrased about. Especially when I'm not physically standing in front of anyone. Why would I get embarrassed over the internet. Really guy???? SMH in disbelief.
No enlightenment necessary. Just missing details.
Anyone know how much these are going for nowadays? I will be returning from military deployment next month and will probably drive down to Dallas and check out the Infinite dealerships down there. Just curious if anyone has bought any recently and what they paid for it?
Kind of pricey for what it is. However, a 2-3 year old used G will knock $10K off for depreciation... and that seems reasonable.
I honeslty cant justify spending 42-45 on a brand new Infiniti, when for that price range there are soooo many better cars, to name a few, M3, M5, Shelby GT500, E63 AMG, I could go all day. But hey whatever makes people happy right?
^ This is for everyone to see, that this is what happens when you live in Staten Island surrounded by trash, toxic fumes, and waste run off, it all goes to your head and makes you say stupid things.
Luckily, I live in Western, NJ far away from all the toxic chemicals and fumes of the turnpike and metropolitan NY area.
The Maxima is now $41k fully loaded and brand new so who can justify spending 40-41k on a new Nissan, when for that price range there are soooo many better cars.
Luckily, I live in Western, NJ far away from all the toxic chemicals and fumes of the turnpike and metropolitan NY area.
The Maxima is now $41k fully loaded and brand new so who can justify spending 40-41k on a new Nissan, when for that price range there are soooo many better cars.
What I said wasnt stupid at all, why buy a glorified Nissan for upwards of 40k when you can get a 2011 or 2012 GT500 or an 08-09 BMW M3 or an 06-07 BMW M5. I guess its cool to have peace of mind bc ur buying a new car. But I could EASILY find a BMW M3 with cpo for the price of a new infiniti.
I respect and appreciate BMW, but I don't actually like them, and would never own one. Infiniti, on the other hand... that resonates with me. The G-Coupe is beautiful, IMO.
What I said wasnt stupid at all, why buy a glorified Nissan for upwards of 40k when you can get a 2011 or 2012 GT500 or an 08-09 BMW M3 or an 06-07 BMW M5. I guess its cool to have peace of mind bc ur buying a new car. But I could EASILY find a BMW M3 with cpo for the price of a new infiniti.
Now, once Infiniti starts going over the 50k mark, I agree, their are other vehicles in that price range that will fit the bill better but the price range you originally talked about they are excellent in what you get for your money.
Ehh, I stand corrected. Well at least for me after owning a car like mine Im sure im ready for some real HP and cant see myself spending that much on a 330hp car. But like you said, most people dont need 500+ HP like I do.
G35 vs. Maxima
New to the forum, and I just bought a 2011 Nissan Maxima SV w/sport pkg. List was $38.5K and I bought it for $32.5K. I traded in my 2008 Infiniti G35x for the Maxima, so I think I have a pretty good idea of the comparison between the two. And yes Nissan dealerships will deal on the Maxima, they don't sell that well vs. the G.
First and foremost, the stats in Edmunds say that the G35 and the Maxima have the same amount of rear leg room (34.6 inches) which is a load of hooey. I can tell you first hand that the Maxima has at least 2 additional inches of legroom. The Maxima is built as a sporty family car, and delivers well. The G35 is built as a 4-door sports car, and it delivers well. You cannot compare the two. The Infiniti is built on the Z platform, and the Maxima is (I believe) built on the Altima platform. The interior of the Maxima SV is much nicer than the G35x w/Premium pkg. The leather is nicer, the seats are more comfortable, etc. I actually like the Maxima's Stereo display better than the G's. I couldn't read the Infiniti's display in the sunlight, no problem with the Maxima. I also think that the Maxima rides nicer (even with the sport package) than the Infiniti did.
HOWEVER, and its a big BUT, if you want a 4 door car that begs to be driven and driven fast, handes amazingly well, and is just plain fun to be in, the G is your car. I've driven a 335i, and it's nice and quick, but there is something raw and angry about the G that the BMW just doesn't have.
Regarding other cars on the market for $41K that are better than the G. I'll take a new one and the warranty vs. a BMW M5 or AMG C63 and the subsequent astronomical repair bills. If you were to tack the repair bills on to the BMW or MB after four years of ownership, I can guarantee that it would cost more than the G.
Love my Maxima, (loved my G, but the family is expanding and I needed to be able to fit a carseat in the back).
First and foremost, the stats in Edmunds say that the G35 and the Maxima have the same amount of rear leg room (34.6 inches) which is a load of hooey. I can tell you first hand that the Maxima has at least 2 additional inches of legroom. The Maxima is built as a sporty family car, and delivers well. The G35 is built as a 4-door sports car, and it delivers well. You cannot compare the two. The Infiniti is built on the Z platform, and the Maxima is (I believe) built on the Altima platform. The interior of the Maxima SV is much nicer than the G35x w/Premium pkg. The leather is nicer, the seats are more comfortable, etc. I actually like the Maxima's Stereo display better than the G's. I couldn't read the Infiniti's display in the sunlight, no problem with the Maxima. I also think that the Maxima rides nicer (even with the sport package) than the Infiniti did.
HOWEVER, and its a big BUT, if you want a 4 door car that begs to be driven and driven fast, handes amazingly well, and is just plain fun to be in, the G is your car. I've driven a 335i, and it's nice and quick, but there is something raw and angry about the G that the BMW just doesn't have.
Regarding other cars on the market for $41K that are better than the G. I'll take a new one and the warranty vs. a BMW M5 or AMG C63 and the subsequent astronomical repair bills. If you were to tack the repair bills on to the BMW or MB after four years of ownership, I can guarantee that it would cost more than the G.
Love my Maxima, (loved my G, but the family is expanding and I needed to be able to fit a carseat in the back).
List prices for the Maxima run from around $31K to $41K, but most dealers let them go for between $23.8K and $34.8K.
For the money actually paid for the car, the Maxima is a better buy for the money than virtually any other car that has been named in this thread. When reliability is also factored in, the Maxima and the G are the ones left standing, and we can get great deals on the Maxima, but not as much on the G.
And that is why many of us ended up with Maximas.
Beginning in September, the price jumped to between $24,688 and $24,888. I don't know whether that jump was because of a Nissan price hike (I seem to remember a Nissan price hike some time recently), or if that may have marked the switch from the 2011s to the 2012s.
Of course the competition is very strong. I once plotted Nissan dealers within a 90 minute drive of my home, and there were 23 of them. There are easily over a dozen within a 60 minute drive of my home. The dealer I use is 4 miles from my home.
$24,888 is still $6,000 below MSRP for an 'S'. Your Infiniti dealer may be different than mine, but the few times I have tried to negotiate with my Infiniti dealer (I do like several Infiniti models), I was never able to come close to getting the discount I was offered at my Nissan dealer.
My area is the same... all four of our Nissan Dealerships will negotiate, but our one and only Infiniti Dealership doesn't. In fact, they seem to mostly hire self-important, arrogant jerks for their sales staff.
And yet they're still nicer to the public than our one and only BMW dealership...
...and the BMW sales staff is less greasy than our Cadillac salespeople.
You can see where this is going.
And yet they're still nicer to the public than our one and only BMW dealership...
...and the BMW sales staff is less greasy than our Cadillac salespeople.
You can see where this is going.
New to the forum, and I just bought a 2011 Nissan Maxima SV w/sport pkg. List was $38.5K and I bought it for $32.5K. I traded in my 2008 Infiniti G35x for the Maxima, so I think I have a pretty good idea of the comparison between the two. And yes Nissan dealerships will deal on the Maxima, they don't sell that well vs. the G.
First and foremost, the stats in Edmunds say that the G35 and the Maxima have the same amount of rear leg room (34.6 inches) which is a load of hooey. I can tell you first hand that the Maxima has at least 2 additional inches of legroom. The Maxima is built as a sporty family car, and delivers well. The G35 is built as a 4-door sports car, and it delivers well. You cannot compare the two. The Infiniti is built on the Z platform, and the Maxima is (I believe) built on the Altima platform. The interior of the Maxima SV is much nicer than the G35x w/Premium pkg. The leather is nicer, the seats are more comfortable, etc. I actually like the Maxima's Stereo display better than the G's. I couldn't read the Infiniti's display in the sunlight, no problem with the Maxima. I also think that the Maxima rides nicer (even with the sport package) than the Infiniti did.
HOWEVER, and its a big BUT, if you want a 4 door car that begs to be driven and driven fast, handes amazingly well, and is just plain fun to be in, the G is your car. I've driven a 335i, and it's nice and quick, but there is something raw and angry about the G that the BMW just doesn't have.
Regarding other cars on the market for $41K that are better than the G. I'll take a new one and the warranty vs. a BMW M5 or AMG C63 and the subsequent astronomical repair bills. If you were to tack the repair bills on to the BMW or MB after four years of ownership, I can guarantee that it would cost more than the G.
Love my Maxima, (loved my G, but the family is expanding and I needed to be able to fit a carseat in the back).
First and foremost, the stats in Edmunds say that the G35 and the Maxima have the same amount of rear leg room (34.6 inches) which is a load of hooey. I can tell you first hand that the Maxima has at least 2 additional inches of legroom. The Maxima is built as a sporty family car, and delivers well. The G35 is built as a 4-door sports car, and it delivers well. You cannot compare the two. The Infiniti is built on the Z platform, and the Maxima is (I believe) built on the Altima platform. The interior of the Maxima SV is much nicer than the G35x w/Premium pkg. The leather is nicer, the seats are more comfortable, etc. I actually like the Maxima's Stereo display better than the G's. I couldn't read the Infiniti's display in the sunlight, no problem with the Maxima. I also think that the Maxima rides nicer (even with the sport package) than the Infiniti did.
HOWEVER, and its a big BUT, if you want a 4 door car that begs to be driven and driven fast, handes amazingly well, and is just plain fun to be in, the G is your car. I've driven a 335i, and it's nice and quick, but there is something raw and angry about the G that the BMW just doesn't have.
Regarding other cars on the market for $41K that are better than the G. I'll take a new one and the warranty vs. a BMW M5 or AMG C63 and the subsequent astronomical repair bills. If you were to tack the repair bills on to the BMW or MB after four years of ownership, I can guarantee that it would cost more than the G.
Love my Maxima, (loved my G, but the family is expanding and I needed to be able to fit a carseat in the back).

Other than that you made some good points.
I just checked back and found that The Nissan dealer car ads in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution up until August showed the 'S' available for around $23,888 or thereabout at Sutherland Nissan, Capitol city Nissan, Stone Mountaion Nissan, etc.
Beginning in September, the price jumped to between $24,688 and $24,888. I don't know whether that jump was because of a Nissan price hike (I seem to remember a Nissan price hike some time recently), or if that may have marked the switch from the 2011s to the 2012s.
Of course the competition is very strong. I once plotted Nissan dealers within a 90 minute drive of my home, and there were 23 of them. There are easily over a dozen within a 60 minute drive of my home. The dealer I use is 4 miles from my home.
$24,888 is still $6,000 below MSRP for an 'S'. Your Infiniti dealer may be different than mine, but the few times I have tried to negotiate with my Infiniti dealer (I do like several Infiniti models), I was never able to come close to getting the discount I was offered at my Nissan dealer.
Beginning in September, the price jumped to between $24,688 and $24,888. I don't know whether that jump was because of a Nissan price hike (I seem to remember a Nissan price hike some time recently), or if that may have marked the switch from the 2011s to the 2012s.
Of course the competition is very strong. I once plotted Nissan dealers within a 90 minute drive of my home, and there were 23 of them. There are easily over a dozen within a 60 minute drive of my home. The dealer I use is 4 miles from my home.
$24,888 is still $6,000 below MSRP for an 'S'. Your Infiniti dealer may be different than mine, but the few times I have tried to negotiate with my Infiniti dealer (I do like several Infiniti models), I was never able to come close to getting the discount I was offered at my Nissan dealer.
What I don't understand is, if Nissan is able to discount the Maxima so heavily, why do they have the msrp jacked up so much? Don't they realize that one of the many reasons why some people don't get the Maxima is because they see the msrp and say "that's too much for a Nissan" or "your into Infiniti prices there." They might be able to sell even more Maxima's then they already are if they had a much lower msrp on the window. Most common folk don't know Nissan will take 5-6k off.
My local Infiniti and Nissan dealer here in NJ is having their annual Columbus Weekend Tent Sale. They seem to be following your comments light. They are both a part of the same family of dealership, owned by the same guy, so have discounts on them. Both the 2011 and even a few 2012 Maxima's that the Nissan dealer has, the stickers for the sale have 5-6k off window sticker. The G37's that the Infiniti dealer has have about 4k off the window sticker.
What I don't understand is, if Nissan is able to discount the Maxima so heavily, why do they have the msrp jacked up so much? Don't they realize that one of the many reasons why some people don't get the Maxima is because they see the msrp and say "that's too much for a Nissan" or "your into Infiniti prices there." They might be able to sell even more Maxima's then they already are if they had a much lower msrp on the window. Most common folk don't know Nissan will take 5-6k off.
What I don't understand is, if Nissan is able to discount the Maxima so heavily, why do they have the msrp jacked up so much? Don't they realize that one of the many reasons why some people don't get the Maxima is because they see the msrp and say "that's too much for a Nissan" or "your into Infiniti prices there." They might be able to sell even more Maxima's then they already are if they had a much lower msrp on the window. Most common folk don't know Nissan will take 5-6k off.
imo the maxima is priced about right when you compare it to other cars with similar features and similar size. the reason the g's discount is closer to the msrp is probably because it is much more sought after car than the maxima, so they dont have to discount it as much as the maxima.
But as light pointed out, getting a Maxima for $34-35k is much more reasonable and you really are getting a good bang for your buck considering all the tech goodies the Maxima has in the premium package. My point is, most lay people don't know you can get a fully loaded Maxima for that price. If they did, I think they would sell even more of them.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that the G is an import, whereas the Maxima isn't. And in Japan, the G is branded Nissan.
Just more perspective on why these two cars fail comparison efforts.
Just more perspective on why these two cars fail comparison efforts.
I know this is the Gsedan vs. the Maxima price comparison when financing but what is with the crazy low lease rates on the G37, I have considered trading my car in which is financed for a lease on a G, but also considering trading in for a 2011 Maxima for 300 a month
I don't know how cars in this price range lease for this, this is not building value for Infiniti in the eyes of the customer

I don't know how cars in this price range lease for this, this is not building value for Infiniti in the eyes of the customer
I know this is the Gsedan vs. the Maxima price comparison when financing but what is with the crazy low lease rates on the G37, I have considered trading my car in which is financed for a lease on a G, but also considering trading in for a 2011 Maxima for 300 a month
I don't know how cars in this price range lease for this, this is not building value for Infiniti in the eyes of the customer

I don't know how cars in this price range lease for this, this is not building value for Infiniti in the eyes of the customer
If BMW want to subsidize the 335i so a loaded 335i was the price of my G, I'd say to heck with building BMW value, I'll take the car.
Last edited by G37guy01; Oct 9, 2011 at 05:40 PM.
What brand that is not a true luxury brand, ie Bently, Maybach, does not have the occasional, event to remember? Maybe Porsche doesn't, I don't know I don't follow their prices. Even Lexus has factory subsidized lease and finance rates.
If BMW want to subsidize the 335i so a loaded 335i was the price of my G, I'd say to heck with building BMW value, I'll take the car.
If BMW want to subsidize the 335i so a loaded 335i was the price of my G, I'd say to heck with building BMW value, I'll take the car.
BMW will not even come close to that for a 335, but BMW does have good lease rates
Understood. But the equipment level is not the same as the G. And I'm paying much less for (almost) a loaded G37x. I thought about the 335i, but this time around I wanted the goodies. Although the BMW packages are marketed differently and you can get some goodies in one package that you have to load up the G to get.
The 335 is a better, faster drivers car. More value in the G and slightly bigger as well for much less money. It's always about the compromises.
The 335 is a better, faster drivers car. More value in the G and slightly bigger as well for much less money. It's always about the compromises.
New to this forum but not forums in general. I 'm a car guy - since 2005 I've had a 545i, S60R, GC SRT8, Mazda RX-8, Jeep Wrangler and now a 2011 Maxima - SV with Sport in Super Black.
My G35s was a 2008 - and I had done MANY mods. It was by far the best car out of 45 that I have owned - with not a single issue. It had some short comings - but I loved it. The Maxima is a different car - but I'm 47 so has has enough of what I need, while being stylish, somewhat powerful, decent handling, comfort and different enough in it's own right.
Agreed both are great cars - and 100% agree with what was said below.
On my G - I did about 9k in mods - wraps, tints, led, custom fogs, sound deadening, full set GT-Spec bracing, etc. The GT Spec braces helped the handling - but it was a long wheelbase car and had some body flex.
Any way - just chiming in. Got a good, not great deal on the Maxima - it still came in under the G. But the G is an older design, designed before the new Maxima - and you can tell.
So far - I've done 15mm front and 20mm in the back spacers. Tinted windows, heads and tails, blacked out all the chrome trim - except thin strip round grill and Nissan logos, Ipod'ed it. There were no navi cars avail - so i put in a mirror nav.
Overall - very happy.
-s-
My G35s was a 2008 - and I had done MANY mods. It was by far the best car out of 45 that I have owned - with not a single issue. It had some short comings - but I loved it. The Maxima is a different car - but I'm 47 so has has enough of what I need, while being stylish, somewhat powerful, decent handling, comfort and different enough in it's own right.
Agreed both are great cars - and 100% agree with what was said below.
On my G - I did about 9k in mods - wraps, tints, led, custom fogs, sound deadening, full set GT-Spec bracing, etc. The GT Spec braces helped the handling - but it was a long wheelbase car and had some body flex.
Any way - just chiming in. Got a good, not great deal on the Maxima - it still came in under the G. But the G is an older design, designed before the new Maxima - and you can tell.
So far - I've done 15mm front and 20mm in the back spacers. Tinted windows, heads and tails, blacked out all the chrome trim - except thin strip round grill and Nissan logos, Ipod'ed it. There were no navi cars avail - so i put in a mirror nav.
Overall - very happy.
-s-
New to the forum, and I just bought a 2011 Nissan Maxima SV w/sport pkg. List was $38.5K and I bought it for $32.5K. I traded in my 2008 Infiniti G35x for the Maxima, so I think I have a pretty good idea of the comparison between the two. And yes Nissan dealerships will deal on the Maxima, they don't sell that well vs. the G.
First and foremost, the stats in Edmunds say that the G35 and the Maxima have the same amount of rear leg room (34.6 inches) which is a load of hooey. I can tell you first hand that the Maxima has at least 2 additional inches of legroom. The Maxima is built as a sporty family car, and delivers well. The G35 is built as a 4-door sports car, and it delivers well. You cannot compare the two. The Infiniti is built on the Z platform, and the Maxima is (I believe) built on the Altima platform. The interior of the Maxima SV is much nicer than the G35x w/Premium pkg. The leather is nicer, the seats are more comfortable, etc. I actually like the Maxima's Stereo display better than the G's. I couldn't read the Infiniti's display in the sunlight, no problem with the Maxima. I also think that the Maxima rides nicer (even with the sport package) than the Infiniti did.
HOWEVER, and its a big BUT, if you want a 4 door car that begs to be driven and driven fast, handes amazingly well, and is just plain fun to be in, the G is your car. I've driven a 335i, and it's nice and quick, but there is something raw and angry about the G that the BMW just doesn't have.
Regarding other cars on the market for $41K that are better than the G. I'll take a new one and the warranty vs. a BMW M5 or AMG C63 and the subsequent astronomical repair bills. If you were to tack the repair bills on to the BMW or MB after four years of ownership, I can guarantee that it would cost more than the G.
Love my Maxima, (loved my G, but the family is expanding and I needed to be able to fit a carseat in the back).
First and foremost, the stats in Edmunds say that the G35 and the Maxima have the same amount of rear leg room (34.6 inches) which is a load of hooey. I can tell you first hand that the Maxima has at least 2 additional inches of legroom. The Maxima is built as a sporty family car, and delivers well. The G35 is built as a 4-door sports car, and it delivers well. You cannot compare the two. The Infiniti is built on the Z platform, and the Maxima is (I believe) built on the Altima platform. The interior of the Maxima SV is much nicer than the G35x w/Premium pkg. The leather is nicer, the seats are more comfortable, etc. I actually like the Maxima's Stereo display better than the G's. I couldn't read the Infiniti's display in the sunlight, no problem with the Maxima. I also think that the Maxima rides nicer (even with the sport package) than the Infiniti did.
HOWEVER, and its a big BUT, if you want a 4 door car that begs to be driven and driven fast, handes amazingly well, and is just plain fun to be in, the G is your car. I've driven a 335i, and it's nice and quick, but there is something raw and angry about the G that the BMW just doesn't have.
Regarding other cars on the market for $41K that are better than the G. I'll take a new one and the warranty vs. a BMW M5 or AMG C63 and the subsequent astronomical repair bills. If you were to tack the repair bills on to the BMW or MB after four years of ownership, I can guarantee that it would cost more than the G.
Love my Maxima, (loved my G, but the family is expanding and I needed to be able to fit a carseat in the back).

Last edited by parkstr8; Oct 11, 2011 at 03:52 PM.
My step-mom had both cars over night to test them and see which one she liked better. The g37s was very rough, but full of power, and the maxima was comfortable and still had power so it was a given. She got her Maxima for about $38,000. And that is for the fully loaded model. I think its the SV.
My step-mom had both cars over night to test them and see which one she liked better. The g37s was very rough, but full of power, and the maxima was comfortable and still had power so it was a given. She got her Maxima for about $38,000. And that is for the fully loaded model. I think its the SV.
I hate the way BMW makes their packages, theres like 5 or 6 different packages and they add on to the price very quickly. I will always say, I never see myself Buying a brand new BMW, only leasing. There definitley is more value in the Infiniti G for what you get than the 335. But the 335 would still be my choice.
I hate the way BMW makes their packages, theres like 5 or 6 different packages and they add on to the price very quickly. I will always say, I never see myself Buying a brand new BMW, only leasing. There definitley is more value in the Infiniti G for what you get than the 335. But the 335 would still be my choice.
U have to pay like 800 bucks for a heated steering wheel in a BMW lol, while in a Maxima it only costs 400 AND you get heated seats and mirrors too and in Infiniti G its standard. BMW is ridiculous with their packages and pricing. Here are three things ALL lucury cars should have standard, HID headlights, Heated seats/Steering wheel, Smart Key access.
U have to pay like 800 bucks for a heated steering wheel in a BMW lol, while in a Maxima it only costs 400 AND you get heated seats and mirrors too and in Infiniti G its standard. BMW is ridiculous with their packages and pricing. Here are three things ALL lucury cars should have standard, HID headlights, Heated seats/Steering wheel, Smart Key access.



You have my sympathy, Canadian Car Enthusiasts.
Good one.