Obviously you don't get out much the Accord EXL V6 starts at 31,630 and has 271hp. If that isn't a direct comparo I don't know what is? This with options can get in or close to 40k.

 

Well what you have is a larger variety of models for an Accord and a Camry as they are and always will be a more popular car for this reason. The Maxima doesn't have a cheap trim like the Accord or Camry. However the Accord has a higher level Accord which does in my opinion compete very well with the Max. It's base price is over 31k.

 

Here's a link to an Accord Coupe which you can even get in a manual how cool is that. It has a nav and some sort of sports package.

http://automobiles.honda.com/tools/b...700M&IColor=BK

 

We are not here to argue with you guy, we are just stating what the cars competitors are Altima compares/competes directly with the Accord in price from 18k on up to 31k.......Top of the Line Altima 3.5 SR is that cars direct competitor.......You have a low range Altima and S that competes with lower to mid range of the Accord/Camry Spectrum that you can get for 17k to 21 and you have the SR 3.5 Altima that MSRP's in the 30k range thats compares directly to that EXL V6 Accord. Check out the selector and try different versions of the Altima and Max and it has the competitors as we stated listed.

http://compare.nissanusa.com/NNAComp...e.compare.link

 

Oh I'm not arguing with anybody just stating it the way I see it and a lot of reviews see it. My point is this just because the Accord or Camry start at a lower price does not mean that they're only competing with the Altima. Most people out there looking at this category of car are going to consider the Altima and Maxima. Let's be real for a second here. If I want a V-6 sedan that has some juice I'll look at the V-6 Accord as well as Altima but for around the same price surely I'll look at the Max as well. I'll bet you 9 out of 10 times this is exactly what a consumer is doing. I'm not the only one who sees it this way. There are several reviews and comparisons that out right put the Max up against the Accord and Camry. Why do you think that is? I'll tell you it's because as I just stated people are comparing the Max with the Accord and Camry V-6. You can't deny that. The Max isn't on the same level as an Audi or Bmw that ain't happening. Also I clicked your link and it compares the Max to two rear wheel cars. To me both the Caddy and Bmw are less like the Max than the Accord or Camry. When people talk Bmw or Audi or Caddy I never hear them say oh yeah the Maxima. Do you?

 

Professional review here not to overstate my opinion or anything. Hmmm Malibu,Sonata,Accord and Legacy. I have read several reviews that outright state the Max doesn't compare to a Bmw 3-series not sure why that's even there.

Competitors: Acura TL, Acura TSX, BMW 3-Series, Buick LaCrosse, Chevrolet Malibu, Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, Hyundai Azera, Hyundai Sonata, Infiniti G37 Sedan, Mazda Mazda6, Saab 9-3, Subaru Legacy, Volkswagen Passat, Volvo S60

 

ok

 

Maxima1981 - Consumer Reports shows the base price for the Accord 4DR sedan as starting at $21K, and the base price of the Maxima as $31K. That is a $10,000 difference, which is HUGE.

Yes, we can load up the Accord to over $30K, and we can load up the Maxima to over $40K. That is STILL a HUGE $10,000 difference.

Any Accord 4 door sedan decked out in a manner that goes over $40K (such as the Premium Maxima does) is a very rare and special vehicle that I have never seen, and that would represent less than 1% of Accords. By contrast, the over $40K Premium Maxima represents a sizable chunk of the Maxima market. Probably 20% to 30% of non-fleet Maxima sales are the Premium version.

The 2.5 Altima is Nissan's direct competitor for the entry level Accord, and the 3.5 Altima is Nissan's direct competitor for the V6 Accord. The 3.5 Altima has almost the EXACT same horsepower as the V6 Accord.

Monte did not wish to belabor the point (he is a peaceful sort), but he is exactly correct in his analysis.

 

If you say so however there are several reviews comparing the cars I am talking about. Not even mentioning the Altima. I would say both the Altima and Maxima are very close. Some reviews prefer the Altima over the Max others don't. I guess what I am trying to say is it's all a matter of opinion.

 

According to Edmunds pricing the Accord tops out at 31k about where the Maxima begins..there are no options and no such animal as a 35k Accord. If this is incorrect information point us to a source.

 

Those reviews you mentioned covered cars from several classes that are not considered direct competitors by most rating services. I have seen ratings that compare $18,000 cars with $28,000 cars, but that doesn't mean those cars are direct competitors. In fact, they aren't.

The 3.5 Altima and the 3.5 Accord are almost clones in their specifications. You are correct that they are not greatly different from the base Maxima. In fact, those two are probably more practical transportation purchases than the Maxima.

All the Maxima does is add M45 parts to the suspension, giving better handling, add the smaller steering wheel from the Z for sportier driving, add 20 horsepower to help differentiate itself from the Altima/Accord group, add generous packages that take the car to near-luxury level (as well as a 'near luxury' price), and offer an aggressive and attractive styling that we don't see everywhere we go, giving a touch of 'individuality' totally lacking in high-volume sellers such as the Camry, Accord and Altima.

The Camry, Altima and Accord are aimed at a very large mass market with hopes of selling 250,000 to 350,000 copies each at an average driveout price between $22,000 and $27,000, while the Maxima is aimed at a totally different clientele, with target sales of around 70,000 and an average driveout price between $28,000 and $36,000.

When everything is factored in, the Maxima is almost in a class by itself. As a result, it often gets lumped into the 'general family sedan' category by systems classifying mostly by interior room. But it doesn't belong there.

Rating services that really know cars and observe class characteristics are more likely to place the Maxima in a category with such vehicles as the G37, the TL, the Hyundai Genesis, the Hyundai Azera Limited, and even cars such as the new Ford Taurus Limited, the Lincoln MKZ and the Avalon Limited.

All those have one critical factor in common; their MSRPs begin over $30K and end over $40K.

Consumer Reports lists the 4 door Accord prices as ranging from $21,180 to $31,730, and 4 door Camry prices as ranging from $19,720 to $29,370. Of course those two cars can be loaded up to an even higher price, but then so can the Maxima, and the Maxima begins at a base price already over $30,000, and commonly chosen packages take that price way up fairly quickly.

 

I think you nailed it here. This is exactly why I went with the Max, were all the add-on options in addition to the unique body styling. I feel like most other cars have roughly the same body shape, especially when in the same class. Nothing looks like the Max except MAYBE the G37 coupes and even then it's not THAT similar. If you debadge your Max everyone will ask "what kind of car is that?" and that really says it all. Unique beautiful powerful machine. Love it.

 

There ARE additional options on the Honda website and it IS possible to spend 36k on one...my mistake, sorry.

 

Yes, by ordering chrome finish wheels, spoiler, body side molding, sunroof deflector, etc, etc, we can get the Accord price up to $36K. Likewise, by adding things like a spoiler, etc, to the Maximum Premium with navi, the price, already over $40K, moves even higher.

The key here is the Accord is available in a far greater range of versions and options, because it is a very high volume vehicle intended to cover a very wide audience. It's price ranges from $21K to $31K, and can reach $36K when all options are added. But very few folks spend $36K for an Accord.

Rating systems lump the entire Accord line with Camry, Altima, etc, because the specs of the varying versions of each are very similar, and the average Accord buyer is buying a version that costs about the same as Camry and Altima buyers pay.

By contrast, base Maxima MSRPs start around $10K higher than the Camry, Accord and Altima base versions, and rise accordingly. Different level of car in both price and image.

That is why Consumer Reports places the Camry and Accord in the 'Family Sedan' category and places the Maxima in the 'Upscale Sedan' category.

 

thats the infinti essence twin turbo

 

I thought the maxima compared to like the toyota avalon, acura (which one im not sure) like a BMW 5 series base and a few others? I personally wouldnt pay the money for a infiniti g series, looks extremely close to a altima and has for years now. Thats why we went with the maxima.

 

What a Dream Ride#

 

That (early posted, not the infiniti) concept looks like a Buick Lacrosse, not good. I never thought a maxima really sized up to BMW and after owning one for 9 years I still dont think so after driving several 3 and 5 series over the years, they are far more refined and well built than the maxima will ever be, but you have to pay for that.

The maxima is a car that is at the very highest end before you can label it a "luxury car", and I dont think that Toyota or Honda currently make such a vehicle, so we have to compare to the Lexus ES and the Acura TL, rather than the Camry or Accord. Personally, I think its fair to compare the Max to all four of the cars including decked out variants of the Camry and Accord, because thats what the Max is, a decked out near luxury car and must be held back in the name of Infiniti.

 

To each their own I guess. The altima and max both look Infiniti ish, but the g has a DNA and look distinct from the max and altima. Even the murano and fx series hae a similar DNA except the fx is way more appealing.

The last reason I would get a max is because it looked like a g. To each their own.