hey guys, I hope this isnt a touchy subject but I was just curious who has springs that wishes they had coilovers? from what I have seen the springs look great but I think there is still at least 1.5" - 2" of fender/quarter gap. please just be honest as I'm on the fence right now and trying to justify the extra $ for coilovers. thanks

 

If you got the coins, go with the coilovers...i'm seriously thinking to swap mine out...but at the same time I want some new shoes.

 

Well, I have springs (Eibach Pros) and I'm happy with mine because of the way the streets are here. There are far too many dips, ruts and whatnot to warrant this car sitting any lower, even at the current ride height I often scrape certain streets or have to drive at an angle when going across certain speedbumps in parking lots because they're too high (or my car sits too low) due to scraping.

The other factor here is that it rains so much and floods and when it does that poses another problem with the depth of water and the ruts/dips in the roads.

I like the look of the coilovers but I'm ok with that little inch gap I have now, it's far better than the 3 inches or so it was before the Eibachs.

 

Thanks for the info... I was considering coilovers versus Eibach pro kit but I have the same issues with bad roads as I am in Jersey. I want them for better cornering not the "looks" factor

 

thanks for your input guys! can I ask about the gap with the Eibachs, others have stated that the rear sits just a little lower than the front & that the gap is roughly 2 fingers (about 1.5") is it the same for you guys front & rear?

although the roads in my area arent the greatest, I'm not that worried as I know which routes to take. I also have a lowered truck with BellTech coilovers & rear blocks. The obvious advantage of coilovers is being able to adjust the ride height. If I go with the coilovers I would probably swap them back out for the winter months.

Ive seen some pics with the Eibachs and they look great but I just have a feeling I will regret not spending the extra $ and being able to go all the way down

 

I myself will probably be going with Eibachs.

 

is that based on your current funds or because you dont want/need the maximum drop that coilovers provide?

 

If you got the money do the coilovers. You have the option to adjust the height at anytime. My bro went from Tein H-tech's to H&R springs to Tein SS Coilovers on his 5th gen. He regrets not getting the coilovers from the beginning.

 

There's not many coilover options that's why I stuck with the eibachs . If tein or apexi came out with some coilovers for the 7th gen I would be all over that but only one I know of is d2 racing.

 

ya the D2's appear to be the best option right now and at $900 the price is fair. I was hoping to hear from someone else with a 7gen who had them but havent found or seen anyone yet. I've heard great things about Tein, man I wish they made em for the 7gen! for now I'm gonna powder coat the 19's, put a 35 series tire on em and slam the car as low as possible...good thing about the coilovers is that when I do get 20's I can adjust them

 

Coilovers are the best invention.

 

x1! I have them on my truck and the ride is amazing, way better than stock! I understand the coilovers are like 4x the $ as the springs and I would assume thats why most ppl go with springs but I still havent heard from anyone with a 7gen who actually has coilovers...

ps. $ is not an obstacle when I'm buying toys for the Max

 

a member in here does have coilovers but hes barely on the forum..

 

i had the springs but then sold it because NY roads are rough not to talk bout even with the stock spring, my car still scratch my driveway so with spring, it be worst...

 

coilovers are great for lowering options, u can go low.

but the ride is usually a lot harsher due to the super high spring rate and the stiff nature of a coilover system.

also another huge factor is the changes u will be doing to the alignment. the lower u go, the more difficult it will be to get to proper alignment; and uneven tire wear will almost, always be a part of life once u take the coilover dive.

 

Kmoney - so you went back to stock height?

BBmaxi - I'm looking to go low! my knowledge on coilovers isnt the greatest but I believe the dampning & rebound is adjustable. also the D2's have pillowball mounts to compensate for camber.

special thanks for gtmassive as this is exactly the kind of post I was looking for.

 

Well I never got to install it. Didn't want to take the chance for the Max scratching more than it already has. So I sold it to a fellow member here

 

1) I'm disagreeing here. The way the damper & spring is setup, in spite of a higher spring rate allow the car to ride smoother because you don't need as much rebound as you do with lowering springs/struts (because with springs you're shortening the height of the spring and wanting the strut to make up for it to prevent hitting the bump stop), whereas with the coilovers, you're lowering the car by changing the overall height of the shock body while the damper's travel is unchanged, resulting in no loss of travel and not needing as much rebound.

I'm sitting on D2 coilovers, 9kg front springs and 6kg rear springs and it rides smoother than my friend's BMW E36 on H&R Race springs & Bilstein dampers (German engineering whaaaaaat )

2) Disagreeing also. This is 100% dependent on how you lower the car, but most coilover systems have camber plates which help you dial in the camber in a much larger range. As opposed to getting some severe drop springs and needing some kind of camber bolts to get the camber in spec.

 

Well, I think it all has to do with the size of your tires when it comes to filling up the rest of the gap in the wheelwell but most guys here are of the 20" and up club and they have lowpro tires so they'll tend to notice the gap more.

I stayed with 18"s and Nexxen tires not a lowpro tire because sitting low here in Texas and hitting some of these bumps with lowpros you'd feel damn near everything and I like my ride to be somewhat complaint and not as hard as it would be with a lowered suspension and lowpro tires.

 

Thanks for your reply MoncefA33! Could you do me a favor and post a pic of yours as I'm wanting to order the D2's this week.

You mentioned you have 9kg front & 6kg rear springs, I'm assuming that's adjustable...is that correct? Thanks again

EDIT: just noticed you dont have a 7gen but none-the-less thanks for rating the D2's!!

 

Ordered the D2 RS coilovers today from Joe at JM Auto Racing. Should have them by this time next week and will be doing a full install/review thread shortly after.

 

I HAVE K-SPORT COILOVERS ON MY CAR AND IT RIDES PERFECT EVERYBODY HATE EM I DUNNO WHY BUT I LOVE THEM YOU CAN ALSO GO WITH BC RACING AND WITH CUSCO COILOVERS IF YOU REALLY HAVE THAT TYPE OF MONEY BUT OTHER THAN I COULDNT LIVE WITHOUT COILOVERS, AND ABOUT THE ROADS BEING BAD THATS JUST THE POORMANS EXCUSE CUZ I DROVE FROM MIAMI TO BOSTON AND THE ROADS WERE JUST FINE

 

3PCMAX22..can u post some pics on your drop...I seriously thinking to swap fr my Eibach to coils.

 

he has pics in his album. the drop looks nice, I've just heard too many negative things about K-Sport so I went with the D2's based on overall reviews of the product & company. I will post pics of mine when the coils are installed. She will be sitting as low as possible

 

I've got a fifth gen. The spring rate itself is not adjustable, however the dampening response is adjustable on the coilovers, which changes the stiffness of the ride.

D2 has great customer service.

 

I think the eibach pro kit works out great. I just put them on Sunday and they ride really nice. I didn't lose any of the ride and the gap for the wheels is about 2 fingers...little less but I have big hands.

Off topic but Strut and Sway completely changed the cornering....I didn't realize that this car could stay so flat to the ground when taking a corner at 40!

 

If you got the money do it right I didnt and now its costing me

 

hey white09maxima,

here is a 7th gen on 20's with ksports. I also believe the owner is a member here, from older posts.

http://www.stancenation.com/2010/11/...-your-game-up/

Should give you an idea of how low to go. cheers.

I would like to add to this.

1.) You can buy aftermarket coilover springs, with different spring rates (i.e. Swift), to suit your comfort level. As well as adjusting the stiffness of your dampers.

2.) Toe should be the main concern for a lowered car. Camber tire wear is marginal compared to toe. Most people think the extreme wear on a tire is camber, but it is actually toe.

 

great post, thank you! That car is simply amazing! Now i cant wait to get my coilovers in!! In regards to your comment about "Toe" could you please give me a little more info on that, I like learning things from ppl who actually have good insight/knowledge like that thanks again~

 

Toe is the angle in which the wheels are pointed toward, or outward, the center of the vehicle. This affects the handling of the vehicle; such as speed stability and how the vehicle turns.

As for toe affecting tire wear; put your hands on your desk and point them forward. Now imagine your fingers as tire threads, and push them forward to visualize how your tires will travel on the road. This would be toe in a neutral, or zero, setting. Now turn your hands inside (toe-in), or outside (toe-out), a bit and push your hands forward as before. From there you can visualize how the treads in the inside will get scrubbed.

hope that helps. maybe google it.

 

I get it. Thanks for the info!

sidenote: My coilovers came in yesterday!!! Hoping to do the install next weekend

 

Dont make me regret getting eibach springs, now im thinking coilovers. I had tein basics on my last car and they were the ****

 

coilovers will cause axle problems over time, just ask Wally. you can buy reinforced axles though too