2012 Maxima on ebay. Sometimes its good to get a different look than what's on Nissan site.

I guess clears tails look ok on the white, but I'm not to keen on the Ford Focus grill.

Enjoy....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-5-S...item56462b0c44

 

wish they put led accent lights on the front end like half the other cars on the road these days. maybe next gen.

 

the updated grille looks really awkward, doesn't even flow with the car.

the rear lamp clears look like cheap ebay upgrade from china.

the upgraded wheel design look worse than anything nissan has ever designed as a wheel.

 

Agreed the wheels are just hideous....

 

40 grand????? GTFO !

altezza's?? really???????

 

A different redesigned headlamp housing to cater to a led drl

 

Told ya guys that new grill was gay

 

omg at those wheels...
: here i thought i would be dissapointed that i didn't wait for the 12...glad i got my 2011 when i did lol.

 

For me, the new wheels looked much better standing beside the car at my dealer's than they do in these pics. The definitely look better when viewed from eye level than from down at tire level.

I agree with others that I like the old grille better on dark colored cars. On light colored cars, the new grille is not quite as noticable as it is on dark colors.

I haven't decided yet on the new tail lights. I'm leaning toward liking the old ones better. I remember not liking the chrome surround tail lights on the 5 1/2 gen 2002/3 as well as those on the 5th gen 2000/1.

The one on ebay for $40K is considerably overpriced, because it does not have either the Sport or Premium package. I would think that by Thanksgiving, we could get one equipped exactly as the one on ebay for less than $30K. Maybe even $27K or $28K.

It may be that we are looking too closely at small pieces of this 2012. No, I do not particularly like some of the individual exterior mods on the 2012, and yet, just looking at the 2012s at my dealer, the overall effect was fairly pleasing. In this instance, it may be that, for some observers, the the sum of the parts is greater than the parts themselves. But that would be up to the perception of each viewer.

 

I agree about the tailights very reminiscent of the 5 to 5.5 transition, but after seeing this picit will be just as the 5.5 gen. Look better on white, silver and other light colored cars vs the darker colored ones. These wheels really aren't anything new as they Nissan has offered a similiar design on the Rogue, they really are just trying to mimic the look of the 19 inch Sport and 19inch Rays on the 370 Sport. Me personally think that they look sportier than the 09 to 11 18 inchers, but I do like the 09-11 Sport design better than the 12+ ones.

 

Going back in Nissan history, the ugliest rims that Nissan ever made was in the mids 80's and it happen to have been on a Max. The rims on the 85 and 86 Max were the ugliest/busiest looking rims ever to be put on a Max....yuck!

 

But . . . but . . . Monte, I owned two of those 2nd gen Maximas, and . . . and . . . OK, those '85 and '86 wheels were pretty bad. Tons of nooks and crannies. It was impossible to get them completely clean. I called them 'turbine' wheels.

Then, for the '87 and '88, Nissan went to the opposite extreme with wheels that were just mostly flat all the way across except for four lug nut holes. At least those were easy to clean.

I loved my two 2nd gens (206,000 happy miles on one of them), but those wheels were not very attractive.

You were right about the '02 and '03 tail lights looking better on light colored cars than on dark colored cars.

I think the '12 will still sell, because the basic very attractive body shape is still there. And those who chose to can either put black plastic or flat black paint over the chrome grille surround and tail light surrounds, as well as pop on some good looking 20 or 22 inch rims.

All is not lost.

 

I concur and it will sell, and lol that would be a good name for the 85/86 rims...lol. My 1st car was a loaded to the gill 87 GXE, it probably was one of my favorite cars all times that I owned. My older brother had an 86 5spd SE and I remember him saying lets swap out rims, I was like no way... He said exactly what you said, I cannot get these things clean totally and he was/is a stickler for clean cars!

 

Interesting you feel that '87 might be your all-time favorites. My fist '85 was my all-time favorite car, and I bought a second '85 for my wife. I let my '85 go after 206,000 miles, and the engine and body were still in perfect shape. I saw that car tooling sround town for several years after I let it go. Each time I saw it, I felt like a traitor for letting it go. I absolutely loved that car.

I have owned cars since 1949, but have not owned anything but Maximas since I bought that '85. It totally stole my heart.

 

It appears to have the Premium package since the pictures show the dual panel moonroof as well as the paddle shifters. That plus NAV should add up to around the price they are listing this car for at MSRP.

I think that the overall package will look attractive, especially in a light color. Has anyone seen any pics of the 2012 S limited edition in winter frost?

 

Car looks the same to me, all I want is that digital tire pressure unit in my 09

 

Yes it was, I felt the same way about it as you did. The 2nd gen really is what put the Max on the map as a sporty/luxury car from Japan, it was the 1st "sports sedan" from Japan as many pubs have stated and started that trend from Japan. It just had so many features (remember those copper colored windows on some Z's and Maximas of this vintage), sporty, quick for its day and those lazy boy style front seats in the GXE just won me over. We have owned one of every gen of Max to from 2nd to 6th, but I decided to get a 370 this go around instead of 7th gen since my 03 Max and my wifes G are in excellent shape.

7th gen is a great car although, but my 2nd gen just holds that spot in my heart!

 

Just felt the need to say I love the tires on this car. No more good years for Nissan.

 

1000% agree. No 6/7/8 speed automatic, no manual and finally, and this is the most egregious of all, no SMT/SMG. Im sick and tired of companies refusing to get on top of SMT/SMG in this market segment. These things cost $40k, give me a break.

I wont touch this car until the transmission nightmare is solved. Not like a G37 is a bad thing either.

Hey, Nissan, I could buy a new loaded car with CASH, and I'm sitting on the fence because of this transmission garbage.

 

Actually, the Maxima can be had at driveout prices ranging from around $24K for the 'S' to $35K for the 'SV' with premium and tech (navi) packages at Nissan dealers around Atlanta.

The same CVT tranny is used in all versions of the Maxima. That is one of the steps Nissan uses to reduce costs and give us a sharp-looking near-luxury car for these prices.

Remember that the Maxima is now a sporty, near-luxury family sedan, not a 4DSC.

As for the CVT, it took me some time to learn all its nuances, and now that I have driven the CVT for almost three years, I will never go back to a shifting tranny. And I am one who once loved manuals.

It doesn't take a scientist to understand that a well-designed and properly working tranny that does NOT shift will be more fuel-efficient than a tranny that DOES have shift points. As the CVT continues to be improved and strengthened, there will be a time when the CVT will out-accellerate any tranny that shifts.

Of course there will always be drivers who prefer other type trannies. They have that right. As time passes, there will be fewer and fewer of those drivers, as more cars switch to the CVT. The ever-increasing fuel efficiency regulations will leave the manufacturers little choice.

 

damn i should have waited a few months

 

Wow it feels like everything I like about the '12 is what everyone hates.
Maybe it's just because I tend to get bored quickly though.
I had an 09 and now have a 12 instead and I like the exterior changes they made and the new style interior woodgrain is SO much nicer!

Im not really into changing the exterior much anymore so I welcome the new changes and think they work very well.
Maybe its just that they look good on a white car, who knows, but I looked at the crimson black as well and it didn't really seem to do it for me.

Now when I put on the spoiler this weekend I think it will really finish it off perfectly!

Does the grill really look that bad?



Although I should add that the rims on the Sport are terrible and are one of the main reasons I didn't get it!

 

Motor Trend had a pic of the 2012 Maxima and the grill looked very nice!

 

Not too much of a difference overall on the grill. Better than the previous changes to the 6th Gen.

 

And there will be a time when cars like ours won't exist due to CAFE standards.

No way could Nissan continue selling cars and have something in the fleet that gets 25 mpg at best when fleet AVERAGE has to be 56 mpg (in 2025) and 34.1 in 2016.

Goodbye power. Goodbye V6.

Look at the Nissan you will be buying in the future.

THE FACTS

Nissan Micra 1.2 DIG-S

Tested: 1,198cc three-cylinder supercharged petrol engine driving the front wheels through a five-speed manual gearbox

Price/on sale: £11,150 to £13,650/now

Power/torque: 97bhp @ 5,600rpm, 107lb ft @ 4,400rpm

Top speed: 112mph

Acceleration: 0-62mph in 11.3sec

Fuel economy: 41.5mpg/52.3mpg (EU Urban/Combined)

CO2 emissions: 95-97g/km depending on specification (CVT 115g/km)

VED band: A (£0)

Verdict: Interesting approach to tackling low emissions without sacrificing performance, but interior feels dated compared to the best European rivals.

 

PhatMax - I have been very concerned ever since the 56 MPG requirement was announced. It is going to be very difficult to get that kind of MPG from a gasoline powered vehicle the size of the Maxima.

But when we consider the very frightening news of earlier this week, when scientists found the greenhouse gasses were accumlating in our atmosphere four times as fast as had been predicted just a few years ago, the handwriting is definitely on the wall. The inevitable consequences are going to be much hotter, drier summers, much colder winters, and far more violent weather than during the last millenium. The southern half of the U.S. will eventually become a desert.

By using the 'fleet average' we can assume Nissan might give the Maxima a tad leeway and make up the difference by selling more electric Leafs, which use no gas. But Nissan has 17 different vehicles, and only the Leaf uses no gas.

There will come a time when solar panels will be much more efficient, and the cabin tops, hoods and trunk lids of vehicles will be solar panels (shaped into the car's syling lines). But that is probably several decades away.

I have hoped for years that Nissan might put a modern diesel engine in the Maxima, which could probably be tuned upto 40 MPH, but nowhere near 56. Another approach might be to transition to engines that use all cylinders to accellerate, but once up to speed, use only two to four cylinders to maintain speed.

Maybe it is best that I am very old, and will probably be able to grab one of the last 'real' Maximas, and drive it right ino my grave.

 

Your right it looks better in person. And the base rims actually looks better then when i saw pics. I saw white at the dealer and goes pretty good with the updates. Only thing I don't like is the body color lower grill opening, imo black opening of previous looked better.
Can't wait to see pics of your car with spoiler.

 

As a meteorologist I can tell you Global " Warming" or now called "Climate Change" is a huge scam based on false science, lying and manipulated data.
Most meteorological research is funded by the federal government. And boy, if you want to get federal funding, you better not come out and say global "warming" is a hoax because you stand the a big chance of not getting funded.
A warmer planet would bring LESS storminess as there is then less temperature difference. You need TWO AIR MASSES TO CLASH TO CREATE A STORM. COLD AIR SINKS, WARM AIR RISES & BOOM!

Record cold at the mid and upper levels of the atmosphere:
Dr.Roy W. Spencer, a former NASA scientist explains the following charts:http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/11/...11-0-11-deg-c/
I look at these measurements and many others everyday. The new charts today shows a NEW RECORD DROP as reality strikes with record mid and upper tropospheric cold deepening @ 14k,25k. Only in a world of denial, does warming cause cooling. Of course most of the media and the climate change frauds won't show you this or even talk about the cooling because their agenda is all about the $$$$.

After all, cold, hot, dry, wet, snowy, tornadoes, hurricanes..etc...it's global "warming" or the new word "Climate Change" Which issue don't they own? You can't have it both ways. How could there be record extreme cold and snows the past 10 years on the globe in a time of so called global "warming"? How is it that Western Pa, Appalachian Mountains, NYC/New England, England and Ireland get the earliest and biggest snowfall in October of this year? No Cold + No snow = No storm 


Do some real research and look at actual records, facts and data. Look back at the 1930's. It is still the hottest years on record during a time with much less cars, buildings , etc. Even the 1950's were extremely hot before so called global "warming" Take a look at 1936 alone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_No...ican_heat_wave
The whole idea that man can manage climate change predictably is arrogant to begin with. The next time you are in an airplane at 35,000 feet, just look down. You will realize just how small we really are.

 

Here it is!

 

Max - This doesn't belong on Maxima.org, but placing this rebuttal to your post elsewhere would be meaningless.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Several big-industry influenced scientists that have been denouncing global warming for decades have recently taken a deeper look at their data and concluded they have been wrong. Most scientists still clinging to the assumption nothing is changing have direct or indirect ties to either big industry (especially industries involved in the use of coal) or have political involvement that would make it embarrassing to admit their stance has been incorrect for decades.

The earth is actually getting warmer at a disturbing rate. Most of the hottest years ever recorded on earth since record keeping began have been in the last twelve years. The disappearing glaciers on mountain ranges and shrinking ice at the North and South Poles give stark visual proof through satellite imagery of the effect on polar areas.

Meterology is not the science under which such studies can be made. Climatology is the area in which such broad-scale research must be done. Global warming is very tied to factors such as industrial and combustion engine emissions, widespread deforestation, el nino and la nina, as well as exterraneous factors such as increased volcanic and tectonic activity. There are probably other factors involved. We are now getting strong earthquakes where we never had them before. Such as in Virginia last month and Oklahoma yesterday. Even eathquakes in seismic areas are becoming stonger.

Those scientists first detecting what appeared to be a warming of the planet thirty years ago warned that global warming would mean not just hotter summers, but also colder winters, stronger storms, and large changes in the average amount of rainfall in many areas. And that is precisely what we have seen. Texas is just one of several areas that has had the hottest and driest year on record this year. And predictions are for that to only continue.

There are incredibly huge amounts of money involved in any effort to reduce missions and switch to cleaner forms of energy. Hundreds of thousands of jobs could be at stake. And that is why there will be denials all the way up to the point it is far too late to address the issue.

Ever since global warming was made a political issue, the views of citizens are generally hardened along political lines, and will not change. That is sad, but is the way of all issues these days.

 

^I've several specials on TLC, Discovery, National Geographic, etc explaining and showing all those things. Kinda scary. Seems like not a whole lot of people care.

 

I am going to respond to the Climate Change issue in a non-confrontational manner.

In regards to TV and media claims about climate. Follow the money and look at the leadership of the outlets.

You will find that the ownership of the media outlets and leadership are very biased and have financial gain to be had from hyping claims of cliamte change. Either through political connections, or through "green jobs" or through trying to accumulate more federal funding for "studies". The more they can scare people that the world is going to end "sometime" the more money they can get to continue to massage numbers and stay employed.

The same goes for the "defecting scientists", look at the money and how those scientists are employed and how they are connected.

Mostly, do your own research and look at LONG term historical records, ice cores, sea bed data, etc. In geological terms the last 150 years is a blink of an eye. If you go back and look at CO2 versus temperture graphs for thousands of years, it is eye opening.

I am ALWAYS cautious about taking information from face value from people that stand to gain financially or gain political power through "pending disasters". I always try to find a selfish reason for someone making huge claims that can affect everyone's life. It is shocking to see the statements made by some "scientists" and how they have changed over the years as the current "crisis dujour" has changed.

 

At the end of the day FACTS will win out. The frauds are being proved wrong and mother nature will make sure of that.

ice caps are not melting, in fact they are growing, especially the antarctic ice cap at record levels The ice caps run in cycles. It is usually when the Antarctic ice cap grows then the Arctic Ice Cap melts some. Well in a Washingtontimes post in June had revealed that the Arctic Ice cap has grown by some 26% since 2007. http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...e-cap-growing/

Go back and look at the North Pole in the 1950s! What ice? http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/2...-not-so-thick/

Texas and Oklahoma are overall dry places!!! This happened in the 30s 40s and 50s. Dust bowl anyone??? Then in the 70s and 80s were a very wet time. Are you noticing the pattern? Now its back to a dry pattern and it very well maybe for the next few years. The FRAUDS will not debate the past and look at ACTUAL HISTORICAL RECORD KEEPING. It's like it never happened.
ALL government funding towards research on global "warming" should be either defunded or not funded at all! Climategate anybody?
Oh and that's right I forgot to mention EARTHQUAKES are now blamed on GLOBAL "WARMING" You see how stupid this whole global "warming" fear movement really is? Well, it is bound to fail. And take my word for it. It will disintegrate before our eyes! The frauds have been reduced to pointing to every storm, flood, hurricane or tornado, even earthquakes, blah blah blah, as proof of man-made global "warming"
Now we have, NCDC data showing USA has not warmed in the past decade, summers are cooler, winters are getting colder:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/0...etting-colder/

The frauds have been predicting winters to be much warmer with hardly any snow. http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...st-724017.html

How about 2006: http://www.redorbit.com/news/science...ort/index.html

His a deal for the "global warming" frauds: You can use heat for your agenda, but you cant use the nasty winter that is coming again, okay? Fat chance they would concede that, as they claim EVERYTHING is "global warming"!
Real scientists are lining up by the thousands to sign a petition rejecting global warming.

So far 31,487 American scientists have signed a petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/

sorry about this getting off track a bit from the topic but I was only responding to the global warming, whatever you wanna call it side of it. I'm done.

 

wow big failure in design in my opinion for 2012..no more HP, no AWD..bad bad bad and nothing at all for changes worth while IMO...

looks like this 09' will be my last Maxima...

 

Why are you posting stuff about the 2012 Maxima in a Politics and Climate Change thread?

 

I went by the local Nissan dealer this past weekend and I noticed the stream of 2012 Maxima's coming in. Saw a black Maxima S with the PP and it had the 18" dark gunmetal wheels on it and it looked really hot.
With the dark tinted tails, the thing reminded me of the Acura TL Type S with the dark wheels. Had a very stealthy look to it.
I do like the new wheels better. They appear to be more edgier than the previous ones.

 

300+ hp wont do any good in a fwd car. awd adds weight and lowers mpg. im pretty sure none of us want a heavier maxima.

 

If the Maxima was AWD I would buy one tommorrow.

 

whit - We need to have realistic expectations. The '12 Maxima is the same 7th gen Maxima as the '09, '10 and '11. There was no redesign involved. No change other than cosmetic tweaks of the grille edge, wheels and tail lights and a new TPMS system. Actually, very little change, as is often the case with Maxima half-gens, and would be especially so in this time of an extremely troubled economy.

Your HP expectations are also unrealistic. For one thing, FWD does not handle high HP well. For another thing, government MPG requirements are going much higher in 2015, and far higher than that around 2025. We are going to begin seeing LESS HP in vehicles, not more.

To expect an AWD system on a vehicle that has never had an AWD system in its 30 year history is sort of stretching things. AWD would add more weight, reduce MPG, increase the likelihood of problems, and cost more to produce and to buy.

Also working against any AWD version is the fact the Maxima is now a low-volume vehicle (around 70K per model year). It used to be a higher volume vehicle. For instance, the '04 Maxima sold over 132K cars.

We could go on here, but all I am saying is that the '12 Maxima is exactly what long-time and knowledgable Maxima fans should have expected. And it is a very nice car.

 

Really has been up and down on its volume the past 10 yrs or so....01 it sold 120k, 02 to 90k dropped intentionally, 03 was 83k, 04 was 132K... yada yada...It has been a see saw since. Nissan could do it heck, the TL which is the Maximas best most similar rival in size and mission in the market place (largish/ sporty/semi lux auto) which has been around with some name or another Vigor/TL etc for 23ish yrs now has offered AWD on the TL after many many years. This car would sell as the AWD TL has done especially in areas that are hit with winter weather, and it would cost a tad less than the TL AWD . AWD with the CVT would be interesting although I must say.