I was looking into getting the Bully dog triple dog programer but wanted to see if anyone has ever used it and if so could u elaborate. it seems like a great add on on top of my borla exhaust and cai.

 

Search is your friend. There are like 400 posts or something in this thread.

http://forums.maxima.org/7th-generat...questions.html

 

i read the threads and the last reply was in the beginning of 2011 nothing since then? i was hoping that there was a recent update as far as the wot?

 

I was curious about this too and havent found much since that older thread. It seems like the programmer really never took off among us, but those that did use it seemed at least semi-pleased, but it was all based on butt-dynos and just the car feeling and seeming faster. No dyno numbers that I ever found.

 

I just spoke with BD and they said that since then there has been several updates and the rev limiter has been address so it's no longer an issue?

 

I have one. Just bought it a few months ago. Here are my thoughts/comments:

- rev limiter can be changed, but CVT will reach only so high of a rev.
- mph can be changed but you'll probably never reach that high.
- asked bullydog, and they confirmed with me that our cars can't change throttle sensitivity or WOT removal.
- premium tune with +2 timing advance is awesome!
- try the +4 timing you'll get zero lag. The surge is so dope!
- the car loses the tune/timing advance after a while, so you'll have to uninstall and reinstall the tune... For $300 its not such a big deal.

It's not your typical tuner. Easy to use and even though its an out of the can tune, it gives some decent power. Anyone with the BOPs will feel the low end power come back and definitely feel the gains in the mid to high.

My current set up is: BOPs, Thermal Intake Spacers, and Hyper Ground Wires. Those wires did like nothing for my car. Ha!

I plan to drop in an aFe dry panel filter, y-pipe, and maybe an exhaust and performance cat. I'll need to wait for my first emissions test before modding the cat. That should give Ghozt enough time to develop one with AAM.

I'm sure the bullydog will enhance the gains from my future mods. It's a good alternative to the more expensive UpRev tune that requires a professional tune.

 

One drunken night about 4 months ago I ran into an old friend that works tech support for bullydog. SHE (yes, I said She) told me that they had problems with the maxima at first because they didn't actually have a test car to try it out on. So they were using their customers as product development. She told me that they would fix the problems as they were reported. They also only have one tech that knows anything about the programming. She told me that if I were to buy it, then just make sure to call them every time I have any type of problem and they would get it fixed.

Not exactly my idea of a good way to test a product. If they wanted product testers, then send it out for free. Don't charge us all this money just so their business can get better.

Oh, and by the way, if you do call bully dog and get to talk with savannah (only 4 phone support people so it's pretty likely), she will most likely impress you with her knowledge of cars. I know she impressed me.

Kyle

 

Thanks for the info! So I guess the big question is? Do u recommend it for someone that already has a cai, cat back exhaust Will I notice a descent change?

 

Save this coin and go get an UpRev tune and call it a day. The timing advance is about the only good aspect of the BullyDog tuner. With the UpRev, it adjusts your A/F ratios from idle to redline so that your motor with intake, exhaust, BOP's, what-have-you runs the way it should.

 

really huh! i will look into it for sure how much is it?

 

Honestly BD is a waste of time for those looking for raw power where you can see the results. A buttdyno assessment is the best any of us could muster and honestly i did not like the way BD conducted business regarding their unit.

They told me that they'd look into fixing the issues with the WOT and whatnot but they never got back with me and then went on to develop a totally newer version of their tuner.

Based on how they conduct business and given what I know about Uprev then I'd encourage anyone to go ahead and spend the few dollars more and get a professional tune/Tuner to assist you with their unit.

At the very least, you will know that you aren't just getting a seat of the pants tune.

 

alright! i called them they suggested that i call the closes dealer and get on the dyno to see where the adjustments need to be cause he said that every maxima runs differant but to be honest with u my maxima can spin the tires with no problem it moves but u can never have enough power... lol

 

So i called the local Up rev dealer and he told me that in massachusetts it will not pass inspection anymore so thats out of the question. back to square one? oh well it is what it is..

 

Did they give you any specifics as to why it would not pass in massachusetts?

Just curious........

 

no not really just that it used to pass inspection but as of last year they've really cracked down on it! but they'll still do it for you. but there up front with you so that you dont come back screaming at them obviously. but its a real nice add-on. but if they dont pass inspection imagine if u brought it back to the dealer? if it wasn't for that i would get it cause my uncle has a shop that'll pass the inspection for me every time.. at least with the BD u can restore the factory settings

 

What does that mean WOT Removal? Why would someone want to remove something like that?

 

Is it such a difference where you'll physically feel when you lose the tune?

 

Is the Bully Dog tuner not the same as a Cobb Access Port where as you reflash the ECU? And if you reflash the ECU or change the map how could it lose the tune after a while? I am asking because I have been looking into a tuner for my car.

 

Man I'm glad I live in a state where inspections are not required. I lived in Mass. a few years back in the eighties and it was a real PITA.

 

umm....what? is this something isolated to your state because I've never heard this? I'd love to know what that guy thinks will fail in an inspection, last I checked inspections dont involve analyzing the ECU for adjusted A/F ratios and ignition timing advancement. unless i had a tech analyzing my car with a Consult II or III I highly doubt anyone would even be able to tell my car is tuned unless they were looking at that specific information; which again i don't think is standard in normal inspections.

 

It seems to be specific to Mass. There's a lot of info (not sure if it's all true or not though) on the g37, 350z, 370z, and evo forums. I'll see if i can find the posts but I've been wicked busy lately. You can google, uprev and mass inspection though.

From my understanding, when UpRev tunes your car it deletes the stock ECU file number or some shi!t. It then replaces the file with its own (and therefore a unique number). The OBD scanner that the inspection shops use don't recognize the number, or it doesn't match what the stock number is and your car fails.

What's worse is that your car gets kicked over to MAC (motorist assistance center) for full diagnostics and examination of your car.

This has been the case for a couple of years now.

 

Glad I live in Alabama where you can drive an uncatted tractor burning 1 quart of oil every mile and still not get a ticket for it

 

Yeah no emissions or inspections here in WA state at least on 09' and later.
Passenger vehicles sold here are required to be CARB certified.

 

Interesting, yeah I just looked up more about it and it definitely seems like Mass. is pretty **** about it. Seems more related to people who tune and remove all their cats/etc and are having the computer "lie" to pass all the tests. Apparently even if you just flash the Uprev license with no tune it will fail inspection. Good catch.

 

Great write-up. I have to disagree with you on the tune uninstalling itself or wearing off. I had mine on my 2010 titan for 2 years str8 without updating it. It performed well and consistently for that entire period. When I finally removed the tune, I could definitely tell the loss. I was so far behind when I went to update my unit, Bullydog had to do manual updates on my cpu to bring me out of the past!