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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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Sudden engine surge

I just got my 2012 Maxima two weeks ago with 10k miles on it. I noticed something weird when I completely release the gas pedal. Say my speed is above 20mph and I release the gas pedal, the car slows down smoothly but every time at 20mph, there's a sudden split second surge and continues to slow down smoothly. The engine RPM jumps about 200rpm and then goes down and you can actually feel the car going just a tad faster during that split second rather than decelerating smoothly. Anyone else notice something similar?
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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Hi there, I'm new here and been lurking aroun this forum for a good month or so?. I have a 2009 sv max with 60000 miles and started experiencing this yesterday into today, from the exact description you posted. When I let off the gas, it slowly decelerates almost like dropping a gear? Weird? Maybe someone else has also experienced this?
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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I'm taking a stab at the dark, but could it be that you started to notice the point when the CVT's torque converter unlocks itself?
On a normal automatic transmission, it usually locks up fairly high in gears when you are up to speed, but on the CVT, it actually locks up around that 20mph area.
I think 16mph is the magic number before it locks/unlocks.

EDIT x2: Our cars also have something called a "deceleration mode".
This effect is most noticeable when you are going down hill and you let off the gas pedal and do not touch the brake either.
What happens is that the ECU, using various sensors, detects that it is going down hill, and the that driver is trying to use engine braking to slow prevent the car from going faster and faster downhill.
Thus, what it does is that it shifts the CVT into lower gear ratios so that the engine in essence acts like an air compressor and slows the car down, or at least keeps it the same speed going downhill.
On flat roads, the effect is still there, just not as noticeable until the point when the torque converter unlocks; once that happens, inertia/momentum takes over for a second, and once equalization happens, you go back to feeling the slow deceleration.
In short, what you are feeling is probably normal.

EDIT: This is what I mean.

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 07:23 AM
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It definitely makes some sense to be some kind of engine braking. As soon as I put a little bit of pressure on the brakes, it never happens.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 12:59 AM
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I'm glad Akiyukio described the engine compression braking so well. This engine compression braking has been in the 6th and 7th gen Maximas. It can catch the attention of drivers who are not used to it.

When I first drove my '04 6th gen back in spring of '04, I thought the CVT was not working just right.Then I read the Owner's Manual and Nissan writeups and found Nissan was heralding this as a 'feature' that made for a sportier ride whenever we were pushing the car on winding and/or hilly roads.

Once I got used to it, I really liked it, and am glad they kept it in the 7th gen. I sometimes drive on twisting mountain roads, and found engine compression braking does make for a more entertaining driving experience. It also helps save on braking on long downgrades. Those that don't like it can simply push the gas pedal slightly and the engine braking stops.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 05:16 AM
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I noticed this too early on. Does it everyday while driving home from work on a steep hill. I usually will shift into a higher gear using the paddle shifter.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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If you cant get use to the engine breaking you can have it disabled at the dealer see here: http://forums.maxima.org/7th-generat...aking-off.html

This engine breaking does affect MPG coasting especially but there aren't any numbers yet on how much it affects mpg. AFAIK my 00 had engine breaking also.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I'm glad Akiyukio described the engine compression braking so well. This engine compression braking has been in the 6th and 7th gen Maximas. It can catch the attention of drivers who are not used to it.

When I first drove my '04 6th gen back in spring of '04, I thought the CVT was not working just right.Then I read the Owner's Manual and Nissan writeups and found Nissan was heralding this as a 'feature' that made for a sportier ride whenever we were pushing the car on winding and/or hilly roads.

Once I got used to it, I really liked it, and am glad they kept it in the 7th gen. I sometimes drive on twisting mountain roads, and found engine compression braking does make for a more entertaining driving experience. It also helps save on braking on long downgrades. Those that don't like it can simply push the gas pedal slightly and the engine braking stops.
I agree Light....I really like this feature. Keeps me a bit more engaged with the vehicle and helps on brake pad/rotor wear.
Old Dec 3, 2024 | 01:02 PM
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same issues with my 2017

[QI had my 2017 maxima transmission replaced at 105k with a reman from the shop. Ever since getting it back, first thing i noticed was I used to get around 500-520 miles per fill up and now I'm only getting 330-350 miles.
Next and the biggest issue is you can get up to 30-35mph and let off the gas as if you were slowing down and when it gets to 20-25mph it will randomly rev up about 500 rpms. I You can get up to whatever speed you want, but once it hits that 20-25mph zone, it will randomly rev up. I first noticed this when I would be approaching a stop sign or car in front of me and would apply the brake then out of nowhere it lunges the car forward slightly. Throws off your timing when applying pressure to the brakes. When you let off the gas it's like it holds a slight throttle until reaches the 20-25mph then revs up and then the rpms will drop like normal. Also feels like it has an aggressive idle/ vibration when in gear because if you put it in neutral it goes away. Any thoughts
Old Dec 3, 2024 | 01:03 PM
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Update, kind of. Still dealing with the same issue. I took it back the transmission shop that installed the reman and each time they couldn't figure out what was wrong so they would send it to the Nissan dealership and Nissan would tell them they were able to replicate what I was talking about, but that it wasn't a major concern and didn't warrant a replacement. I drove it for a little while longer, but was coming up on the 1yr warranty expiring so I decided to take it to a different Nissan dealership and get it diagnosed. They assured me that the transmission was in premature failure and was causing the issue. I took the paperwork that nissan gave me back to the transmission shop and the owner agreed to put a ne w transmission in w/ a 3 yr unlimited mile warranty. I just knew all would be good. I pick the car up and it's still doing the same thing so back to square one. The thing is, it was not doing this before they put the reman transmission in. Of course Nissan will say its failing if they are trying to sell a transmission and they will say it's not if they would have to replace it. I efn hate dishonest people. Something new that i've noticed, now that it's cold, the rev jump occurs exactly at 14mph, instead of 25mph when it was warm.
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