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Old 11-04-2015, 04:12 PM
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2016 Maxima Platinum CVT JUDDER/

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I bought a 2016 Platinum in Deep Blue Pearl and charcoal interior October 15th, 2015. It had 311 miles on it. At mile 1,742 I noticed a mild "stammer" more than hesitation. Really bothered me. This continued again several times. After researching the issue I found there is a recall for an "O" ring. (was not the problem)

I documented it with the Nissan dealer Monday 2 November... Called the dealer this morning (Wednesday) at 8:00am to check status...Was told they will call back. 10:30am I called Nissan Consumer Affairs and was told the "O" ring was back ordered.

I called the dealer (Sales Manager) to question why I was not informed as I am a busy person that has to schedule around events as well. In fact why were they not aware of the recall, they blamed Nissan (I call BS). 5 minutes later the dealer service department calls me to say they have the part bring it in...cool, or so I thought.

Dropped it off and got a loaner at 11:30am.

3:00pm dealer called me to come pick up the car as the "O" Ring Recall had been completed. But....a diagnostic revealed my concern and confirmed a "Judder" in the CVT. (CODE = P17F1 CVT JUDDER).

I picked up the vehicle, then inquired as to when, how long, what is involved etc...for this repair. Other than getting inside the CVT and replacing a "control Valve" they were clueless and had never done one before...I am calm but pissed.

I got home and called Nissan Consumer Affairs for the 3rd time today in order to add to my Case Number for the Special Consumer Affairs Rep's return call tomorrow to be aware I am asking for a replacement vehicle.

I do not want a 2 week old $42,000.00 rattle trap after the suspension and transaxle has been dropped and repaired by someone who has never done it before with parts that do not exist at the moment.

Hope this does not sound extreme but I paid for a brand new car not a basket case experimental auto.

Your thoughts please.

Hope you get right on it if you have any Juddering/hesitation with your CVT's. Almost feels like a fuel line issue.

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I love the new Maxima...it just makes me sick to see it needing ripped open right out of the factory.

I owned 3 Maxima's before this one 2000/2004/2007
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The Judder has been very problematic with the Pathfinder community.
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The Judder has been very problematic with the Pathfinder community.
Thank you for the reference.
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I had this issue I made a post a while back but every said it was just me I have the sr it happened when I let off the fuel the car felt like it took a while to catch up
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I have had this exact same jerking/judder happen a few times on my SR. In my case, it always seemed to happen at higher speeds, around 40-60 mph, under light acceleration. I was able to occasionally replicate it under light acceleration while going up a slight hill.

Can you describe what circumstances it happens to you in? The issue is that I can't reliably replicate it. I thought it might be break in related, as the car is now at 1000 miles and it hasn't happened at in the last 300 miles. Did you have any warning lights come on, or did the dealer just find the code in the history?

I was also really upset when it happened as it is a jerking motion and feels like a major hesitation. Adding more throttle didn't make the jerking go away, although the vehicle speed did increase. I'm hoping it is just break in related...
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I had this issue I made a post a while back but every said it was just me I have the sr it happened when I let off the fuel the car felt like it took a while to catch up
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I have had this exact same jerking/judder happen a few times on my SR. In my case, it always seemed to happen at higher speeds, around 40-60 mph, under light acceleration. I was able to occasionally replicate it under light acceleration while going up a slight hill.

Can you describe what circumstances it happens to you in? The issue is that I can't reliably replicate it. I thought it might be break in related, as the car is now at 1000 miles and it hasn't happened at in the last 300 miles. Did you have any warning lights come on, or did the dealer just find the code in the history?

I was also really upset when it happened as it is a jerking motion and feels like a major hesitation. Adding more throttle didn't make the jerking go away, although the vehicle speed did increase. I'm hoping it is just break in related...
Both of your accounts are relative. My first observation was turning right at an intersection while accelerating. I now know that it was occurring before while decelerating as it felt as if the rotors were warped. It now does it on all occasions. It has even done it at 70 MPH on the freeway.

No lights came on but I knew something was wrong so I started research and found the damn Fuel Ring Recall (can't believe they sold the car knowing full well there was a recall) then the diagnostic showed the shudder code.

There so far as I know is not a fix in place for the moment. The front electronic suspension and transaxle will have to be dropped etc...I will not consider it to be a new care if they break into the drive train, not what I paid for. It will become a rattle trap once they break into the factory assembly.

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I still smell gas...guess they did not get that right either. Waiting for a Nissan Consumer Affairs Specialist to call me this afternoon. This needs returned to Nashville for rework and replaced with a post recall auto.

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You're overreacting. Just because the techs there have never done that exact repair before does not mean that they can't do it without "turning it into a rattle trap". And if that happens to be the case, you'll be able to pressure Nissan into getting a new car. If you have a good dealership, they'll take care of you.

Unfortunately, when you buy a brand new model of anything, car, appliances, games, etc. there will always be issues. It's unfortunate but virtually every company does this now a days. It's also a good idea to wait awhile for the bugs to be worked out of whatever you're buying if you can't handle some speed bumps.
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You're overreacting. Just because the techs there have never done that exact repair before does not mean that they can't do it without "turning it into a rattle trap". And if that happens to be the case, you'll be able to pressure Nissan into getting a new car. If you have a good dealership, they'll take care of you.

Unfortunately, when you buy a brand new model of anything, car, appliances, games, etc. there will always be issues. It's unfortunate but virtually every company does this now a days. It's also a good idea to wait awhile for the bugs to be worked out of whatever you're buying if you can't handle some speed bumps.
Well put. The dealership contacted me today and stated that the valve body had arrived overnight and the suspension does not need to be touched so I agreed for the repair Monday. As for speed bumps I will not tolerate many for 42K.

I love the car...hope this resolves the issue.

Thank you for the input.
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Sorry you're having an issue, but I agree you're overreacting. Cars these days are extremely complex machines, and it's naive to think they'll be 100% problem-free. And to think a car company is going to just give you a new car because you have an issue is even more naive.

Their responsibility under the warranty is to repair things that go wrong, and sometimes it takes a little while to find solutions and get it done. In those cases you just have to wait.

I know $42k is big dollars to you, but in the big scheme of things it's lower-middle end. Spend $100k + on a Mercedes or Porsche and you have some leverage, but a $42k Nissan is chopped liver.

Have faith - they'll fix it. If not, and you have the right documentation, try a Lemon Law action. And good luck with that, too.

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Originally Posted by NewReligion
Well put. The dealership contacted me today and stated that the valve body had arrived overnight and the suspension does not need to be touched so I agreed for the repair Monday. As for speed bumps I will not tolerate many for 42K.

I love the car...hope this resolves the issue.

Thank you for the input.
Good luck with the fix! I would love to hear if this resolves the issue for you after driving a while. I luckily haven't had the judder recently, but if it happens again, I will take my car in as well.
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Sorry you're having an issue, but I agree you're overreacting. Cars these days are extremely complex machines, and it's naive to think they'll be 100% problem-free. And to think a car company is going to just give you a new car because you have an issue is even more naive.

Their responsibility under the warranty is to repair things that go wrong, and sometimes it takes a little while to find solutions and get it done. In those cases you just have to wait.

I know $42k is big dollars to you, but in the big scheme of things it's lower-middle end. Spend $100k + on a Mercedes or Porsche and you have some leverage, but a $42k Nissan is chopped liver.

Have faith - they'll fix it. If not, and you have the right documentation, try a Lemon Law action. And good luck with that, too.




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Thanks for the advice...I have many possession's that cost more than Chopped liver 42K, not the point. I do agree there will be some bumps in the road but I expected more out of Nissan for some reason. Perhaps it was a bit naive to expect manufacturer's and dealers to resolve known recalls before selling the auto at any price but I live with a lot of integrity. Perhaps it was a reasonable expectation because of the great success with my other 3 Maxima's and those of my son's I gave too much credit to a first year generation 8.

Like many here I can be a cork sniffer but again, not the point. Simply building a case if needing to use Indiana's very stringent Lemon Law (IC 24-5-13, et, seq) in addition to making others aware that the (Hesitation) they experience may be something more than just that. I am retired well at age 50 and not due to being naive or a push over.

By utilizing Nissan Consumers Affairs I received expedited service that was otherwise being slowly addressed as I left out some boring details of communication between the dealer and my self. A prudent call up-channel and down-channel has always been a key to success for my management skills in resolving poor dialogue and/or group dynamics.

I do apologize for being high keyed as my tolerance for BS is low. A poor habit I am working with.

Respectfully, New Religion

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Good luck with the fix! I would love to hear if this resolves the issue for you after driving a while. I luckily haven't had the judder recently, but if it happens again, I will take my car in as well.
Thank you. I will post the results in a more sensitive and professional manner as we all should be on top of helping to mentor the success of the beloved Maxima.

Regards, New Religion

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I'm 100% with you, 42k brand new Platinum and they SHOULD take care of you. Stay in contact with Nissan and the dealer and they should do whatever they can to fix the situation properly.
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I'm 100% with you, 42k brand new Platinum and they SHOULD take care of you. Stay in contact with Nissan and the dealer and they should do whatever they can to fix the situation properly.
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I think you should expect and demand the problem be resolved to your satisfaction. It is a brand new car and 42K ain't chump change. You should not have to spend 100k to get a reliable car. All new cars may have some issues, but not with the drive train. That can be major. Nissan's track record of dealing with similar problems on the Pathfinder and Altima is not good. That is fact. Let's hope this problem on your Maxima isn't a trend. I suspect it is not, or it would be much more prevalent, like it was with the Pathfinder and Altima.
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I think you should expect and demand the problem be resolved to your satisfaction. It is a brand new car and 42K ain't chump change. You should not have to spend 100k to get a reliable car. All new cars may have some issues, but not with the drive train. That can be major. Nissan's track record of dealing with similar problems on the Pathfinder and Altima is not good. That is fact. Let's hope this problem on your Maxima isn't a trend. I suspect it is not, or it would be much more prevalent, like it was with the Pathfinder and Altima.
Thank you for voicing your opinion. I have been through the Euro auto problems and wish not to return to that format. Most US are out of the question I hold the Maxi in higher regard and have been quite disappointed. I chose it over the Infinity family, can afford to drive whatever I choose. Consumer affairs and I had a discussion for 20 minutes today. All documentation has been put in place and case number assigned to include the two known issues. These are resolved great if not it will take about 20 day process for them to put together what is needed for buyback. Of course there are no guarantees but if the drivetrain continues to come apart they likely will have no other choice. Again I love the Maxima I wish you all the best will keep you posted .
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I've noticed a shudder on my platinum..i've been able to replicate it by holding the rpms around 1k and maintaining roughtly 20mph going uphill...perfect school zone scenario..it seems the transmission is trying to lug the car and it shudders. if I am more aggressive with the throttle it doesn't happen, but if I repeat the above example it seems hard to accelerate out of it once it starts. I got the car with 69 miles on it and I put a few on it test driving it so it hasn't been abused. it's got 700 on it now, but I will see if it continues. I really enjoy the car and won't let this get me down..its been great otherwise. its going in for final option parts to be added so i'll have them check it for codes..
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Thanks for the advice...I have many possession's that cost more than Chopped liver 42K, not the point. I do agree there will be some bumps in the road but I expected more out of Nissan for some reason. Perhaps it was a bit naive to expect manufacturer's and dealers to resolve known recalls before selling the auto at any price but I live with a lot of integrity. Perhaps it was a reasonable expectation because of the great success with my other 3 Maxima's and those of my son's I gave too much credit to a first year generation 8.

Like many here I can be a cork sniffer but again, not the point. Simply building a case if needing to use Indiana's very stringent Lemon Law (IC 24-5-13, et, seq) in addition to making others aware that the (Hesitation) they experience may be something more than just that. I am retired well at age 50 and not due to being naive or a push over.

By utilizing Nissan Consumers Affairs I received expedited service that was otherwise being slowly addressed as I left out some boring details of communication between the dealer and my self. A prudent call up-channel and down-channel has always been a key to success for my management skills in resolving poor dialogue and/or group dynamics.

I do apologize for being high keyed as my tolerance for BS is low. A poor habit I am working with.

Respectfully, New Religion



Thank you. I will post the results in a more sensitive and professional manner as we all should be on top of helping to mentor the success of the beloved Maxima.

Regards, New Religion
Well said. I probably confused you with youngsters I run into on forums who seem to think if they have a problem with their car, the mfr ought to just take their car back and give them a new one. Like they would at Walmart if you buy a toaster and it doesn't work right.

There's no question Nissan should take care of you, and I believe they will. Unfortunately, it sometimes takes a little longer than it should.

Hang in there.

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I've noticed a shudder on my platinum..i've been able to replicate it by holding the rpms around 1k and maintaining roughtly 20mph going uphill...perfect school zone scenario..it seems the transmission is trying to lug the car and it shudders. if I am more aggressive with the throttle it doesn't happen, but if I repeat the above example it seems hard to accelerate out of it once it starts. I got the car with 69 miles on it and I put a few on it test driving it so it hasn't been abused. it's got 700 on it now, but I will see if it continues. I really enjoy the car and won't let this get me down..its been great otherwise. its going in for final option parts to be added so i'll have them check it for codes..
Same stutter/judder on our 2016 Maxima SL. Purchased 08/04/2015. Car now has a little less than 4000 miles. I noticed the problem at 1200 RPM, light throttle about a month ago, and the problem has gotten worse with more miles. Now I notice the same stutter/judder with my foot off the gas pedal and on the brake as I slow to a stop when the RPM's drop to 1200. Very noticeable, even to a passenger.

When we purchased the car, the dealer gave us free oil and filter changes @5K for the first 30K, so I will soon be taking the car in for it's first service. I doubt that the problem will get better on it's own, so I'm sure by 5k the tech at the dealer will not be able say "can not duplicate" after a test ride with me.

I will let everyone know the outcome and what was done to correct the problem.
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So many forums are complaining about this problem on lots of Nissan vehicles. I cant understand why they didn't correct the problem before the 2016 Maxima was released. From what I have read, Nissan knew about the problem. No way in hell would I even thing about touching a CVT equipped car....Good luck fighting Nissan
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Same stutter/judder on our 2016 Maxima SL. Purchased 08/04/2015. Car now has a little less than 4000 miles. I noticed the problem at 1200 RPM, light throttle about a month ago, and the problem has gotten worse with more miles. Now I notice the same stutter/judder with my foot off the gas pedal and on the brake as I slow to a stop when the RPM's drop to 1200. Very noticeable, even to a passenger.

When we purchased the car, the dealer gave us free oil and filter changes @5K for the first 30K, so I will soon be taking the car in for it's first service. I doubt that the problem will get better on it's own, so I'm sure by 5k the tech at the dealer will not be able say "can not duplicate" after a test ride with me.

I will let everyone know the outcome and what was done to correct the problem.
I would report the judder...Bet there is a diagnostic code that appears...= (P17F1) CVT JUDDER
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Sorry to hear about these problems with your new car. I agree that some new vehicles will have some issues. The problem here is Nissan continuing to sell vehicles with known issues. With the 7th generation, there were known issues & they just kept selling them. Consumers were then left to deal with these issues later on.

I had some problems with my 7th gen. Nissan ended up replacing the CVT & the head gasket on my car at 56k miles. While I was not happy about my car having these big issues, I felt that they did take care of me. What I don't get, is why not deal with known issues before the sale. I get the immediate economic benefit, but not when it's hurting their reputation.

I hope all goes well for you.
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Sorry to hear about these problems with your new car. I agree that some new vehicles will have some issues. The problem here is Nissan continuing to sell vehicles with known issues. With the 7th generation, there were known issues & they just kept selling them. Consumers were then left to deal with these issues later on.

I had some problems with my 7th gen. Nissan ended up replacing the CVT & the head gasket on my car at 56k miles. While I was not happy about my car having these big issues, I felt that they did take care of me. What I don't get, is why not deal with known issues before the sale. I get the immediate economic benefit, but not when it's hurting their reputation.

I hope all goes well for you.
Thank you...I hope it works out as well. I damn near bought an Infiniti but preferred the New 8th Gen Maxi... I believe Infinity uses Nissan engines, is that correct? The AWD would be great or perhaps just another headache. I am covered and have plenty of time to deal with the current issues but as a consumer it is my opinion to keep me they (Nissan) better get their engineering together before it is released to the public, at ANY cost.

Respectfully, New Religion...

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Infiniti is Nissan's upscale brand. As to which specific parts are shared, I'm not sure. Infiniti ended up with 3.7L engines, & our Maximas still use the 3.5L I actually buy OEM Nissan parts through my friend who works for an Infiniti dealer. He gets discounted prices.
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Taking the Maxima in tomorrow 8:00am for valve body replacement in the trans...

POINT OF INTEREST...It seems if I turn OFF the Traction Control and operate in Sport Mode it does not JUDDER as often or extreme...In fact it runs like a SOB. It appears the "control" crap may be aiding in choking out the grand design.

Try this out if you will and see if it helps then report back please. Thank you.

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That was the first thing they did to my original CVT before changing out the whole transmission. Hopefully that will solve the issue for you.
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That was the first thing they did to my original CVT before changing out the whole transmission. Hopefully that will solve the issue for you.

Did the new replacement trans resolve the issue?
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Yes...original CVT didn't just completely go out. When in sport mode it would get stuck in one of the simulated gears. The RPMs would go up & it would not change until I let off the gas. The other issue is that it would take longer to engage when going from reverse to drive.
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Took the Maxi in this morning and had the valve control in the CVT changed..."minor surgery" as they said. Out patient I responded. I have put 100 miles on her since and it is smooth so far. This car is awesome in sport mode with no traction control.

I will keep you posted in 1,500 more miles as it will be time for the 4,000 mile oil change and check up.

If you are experiencing this issue make sure to get the car checked for codes. The Service Manager stated that once they go into the CVT's of all the other models they do not come back. IDK but I hope so.

As an added note they gave me a 2015 2.5 Altima with 900 miles as a loaner...man did I mis the Maxi.

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Took the Maxi in this morning and had the valve control in the CVT changed..."minor surgery" as they said. Out patient I responded. I have put 100 miles on her since and it is smooth so far. This car is awesome in sport mode with no traction control.

I will keep you posted in 1,500 more miles as it will be time for the 4,000 mile oil change and check up.

If you are experiencing this issue make sure to get the car checked for codes. The Service Manager stated that once they go into the CVT's of all the other models they do not come back. IDK but I hope so.

As an added note they gave me a 2015 2.5 Altima with 900 miles as a loaner...man did I mis the Maxi.

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Great news! How did you like the interior of the Altima compared to the Max? I drove a 2014 Altima SL and I was shocked how low quality it was compared to the Max.
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I'm currently sporting a '15 Altima S while mine is in for some cosmetic work..it's night and day difference..but its a base model that serves its purpose as a loaner..i haven't gotten the shudder lately so I didn't bother trying to explain..please keep this updated and hopefully it's fixed for good..
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Hello brothers and sisters I have the 2016 maxima sr.My friend works for the Nissan dealer as s service tech and has for the last 15years.i asked him about the current issues with the judder on the 2016 maxima and he went to the tech bulletin bored to check it out for me .He said not that many people have come in yet with the complaint .He said there will be two service codes that can appear during the judders depending upon which one appears they will offer a cvt solinoid valve replacement or and actual whole transmission.i was one of the first ppl to have the maxima I brought it the second day it was released .I currently have 9,000 miles on my car.i have experienced the judder when I release the gas the transmission feels like it's stuck in gear then suddenly it catches up and the rpms drop and the car seems smooth again.It isn't happening all of the time and I currently don't have any lights on or codes .But if you experience it let your dealer no immediatly so that if you have and issue down the line your covered.ask for a print out with the check out and the complaint ,pls don't wait until the last min.If we all get on bored they may offer a recall.-
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I have also experienced the judder but have only noticed it a couple of times and currently have approx. 3800 miles on the car. I will definitely be taking it to the dealer as suggested if this continues. Thanks for the post and helpful replies.
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Old 11-12-2015, 07:36 AM
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Hello brothers and sisters I have the 2016 maxima sr.My friend works for the Nissan dealer as s service tech and has for the last 15years.i asked him about the current issues with the judder on the 2016 maxima and he went to the tech bulletin bored to check it out for me .He said not that many people have come in yet with the complaint .He said there will be two service codes that can appear during the judders depending upon which one appears they will offer a cvt solinoid valve replacement or and actual whole transmission.i was one of the first ppl to have the maxima I brought it the second day it was released .I currently have 9,000 miles on my car.i have experienced the judder when I release the gas the transmission feels like it's stuck in gear then suddenly it catches up and the rpms drop and the car seems smooth again.It isn't happening all of the time and I currently don't have any lights on or codes .But if you experience it let your dealer no immediatly so that if you have and issue down the line your covered.ask for a print out with the check out and the complaint ,pls don't wait until the last min.If we all get on bored they may offer a recall.-
I've experienced what I think you're describing and I'm thinking that's probably intentional.

When I let off the gas and I'm slowing down to a stop, or very slow speeds, I can feel the transmission "release" the car. I used to do this in my manual cars, engine brake and once I got close to stopping I would press the clutch in, it would "release" the car the same way.

When braking, a feature of this car is that it also assists with engine braking to reduce brake wear, this is the same reason I used engine braking in my manuals.
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I've experienced what I think you're describing and I'm thinking that's probably intentional.

When I let off the gas and I'm slowing down to a stop, or very slow speeds, I can feel the transmission "release" the car. I used to do this in my manual cars, engine brake and once I got close to stopping I would press the clutch in, it would "release" the car the same way.
Torque converter unlocking.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:48 PM
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Great news! How did you like the interior of the Altima compared to the Max? I drove a 2014 Altima SL and I was shocked how low quality it was compared to the Max.
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I'm currently sporting a '15 Altima S while mine is in for some cosmetic work..it's night and day difference..but its a base model that serves its purpose as a loaner..i haven't gotten the shudder lately so I didn't bother trying to explain..please keep this updated and hopefully it's fixed for good..
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Hello brothers and sisters I have the 2016 maxima sr.My friend works for the Nissan dealer as s service tech and has for the last 15years.i asked him about the current issues with the judder on the 2016 maxima and he went to the tech bulletin bored to check it out for me .He said not that many people have come in yet with the complaint .He said there will be two service codes that can appear during the judders depending upon which one appears they will offer a cvt solinoid valve replacement or and actual whole transmission.i was one of the first ppl to have the maxima I brought it the second day it was released .I currently have 9,000 miles on my car.i have experienced the judder when I release the gas the transmission feels like it's stuck in gear then suddenly it catches up and the rpms drop and the car seems smooth again.It isn't happening all of the time and I currently don't have any lights on or codes .But if you experience it let your dealer no immediatly so that if you have and issue down the line your covered.ask for a print out with the check out and the complaint ,pls don't wait until the last min.If we all get on bored they may offer a recall.-
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I have also experienced the judder but have only noticed it a couple of times and currently have approx. 3800 miles on the car. I will definitely be taking it to the dealer as suggested if this continues. Thanks for the post and helpful replies.
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I've experienced what I think you're describing and I'm thinking that's probably intentional.

When I let off the gas and I'm slowing down to a stop, or very slow speeds, I can feel the transmission "release" the car. I used to do this in my manual cars, engine brake and once I got close to stopping I would press the clutch in, it would "release" the car the same way.

When braking, a feature of this car is that it also assists with engine braking to reduce brake wear, this is the same reason I used engine braking in my manuals.
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Torque converter unlocking.
The Altima was nice but apples to oranges with the Maxima Platinum.

Please do report your issue(s) so Nissan may stay on top of the engineering problems.

Since my CVT valve replacement I now have an additional 450 miles. NO JUDDER. No hesitation when letting off or slowing. Just smooth as the day I bought it. If you guys are having torque converter release issues I am not experiencing this. You may reconsider buying off on that IMO.

Good luck to all. I will continue to report back and check in.

Regards, New Religion.
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If you guys are having torque converter release issues I am not experiencing this. You may reconsider buying off on that IMO.
It's not an issue, it's normal operation.
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Torque converter unlocking.
Glad someone with more mechanical knowledge than me was able to chime in.
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Glad someone with more mechanical knowledge than me was able to chime in.
Pretty much all torque converter equipped cars do it. Some you notice more than others. Especially in a CVT where it doesn't normally shift, the converter unlocking feels like a downshift so it stands out. In a normal automatic with gears, you're used to the feeling of shifting gears so it's less noticeable.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:22 AM
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It's not an issue, it's normal operation.
Originally Posted by ATDoel
Glad someone with more mechanical knowledge than me was able to chime in.
Originally Posted by R1600Turbo
Pretty much all torque converter equipped cars do it. Some you notice more than others. Especially in a CVT where it doesn't normally shift, the converter unlocking feels like a downshift so it stands out. In a normal automatic with gears, you're used to the feeling of shifting gears so it's less noticeable.
Regardless...The work completed on my 2016 Maxima allows for a smooth transition, so far. I notice no "unlocking". Not splitting hairs, just saying nothing annoying about the function now. I have owned 4 Maxima's, several Euro manuals and auto's in addition to countless other models to include Muscle cars with 4 speed and turbo 400 transmisions etc... in my 51 years. Never felt the Jake Brake effect or unlocking.

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