8th Generation Maxima (2016-) Let's see what Nissan has to offer on the 8th generation Maxima

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Old Nov 22, 2017 | 12:16 PM
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It has been a short lived visit here. I absolutely love the Maxima for what it is but miss owning a sports car and tormenting the youngsters at on/off ramps and traffic lights so am going back to one.
GM has these cars for 20% off MSRP during the month of Nov and I couldnt resist. Pick one up an auto in silver next week:

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Old Nov 22, 2017 | 01:03 PM
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No comparison and a totally different beast. The Maxima was obviously the wrong car for you. That being said. Great choice! Its to bad GM is killing this car off one of the best kept secrets out there. Such a beast! That was the car we wanted before getting the Maxima. But had a bad experience with our 2015 Chevrolet Impala 2LTZ and decided not to reward Chevy for being bad.

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Old Nov 22, 2017 | 02:17 PM
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Old Nov 22, 2017 | 04:41 PM
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Looks like a fun car, enjoy!
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Congrats! I traded in my 2014 Maxima SV Sport in March during the last 20 percent off sale for a 2017 Slipstream Blue SS with spare/sunroof/auto. 10,000 miles on it so far with no issues. Surprisingly gets only 1-2 less mpg than my Maxima did in combined driving. The exhaust note and throttle response on the SS is intoxicating. Just put Michelin X-ice snow tires on it so ready for winter. The ride and handling is very tight, but not punishing, and the car behaves itself nicely as long as the electronic nannies are on. Overall, the SS is even better than I had hoped it would be.

Only thing I dislike is the "MyChevy" infotainment system. It is terrible. It does not work well with my ipod/iphone (indexes all the songs for a long time upon each startup), and when our kids watch videos on our phones it cuts in over the car speakers. Also, even the prior gen Maxima had a much better sound system than the SS. However, when I get annoyed with the system I simply turn it off and listen to the engine/exhaust. Then all is forgiven!
Old Nov 22, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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In Magazine test results, the SS averaged a combined fuel efficiency of 17 MPG, compared with the Maxima's 25 MPG. You must have eggshells hidden under your accelerator pedal.

At over 400 HP, the SS is a far cry from a family sedan. In my opinion, the SS should be considered to be in the sports car category. It is RWD, which many sports car fans love, but which I ditched back in the 1970s. The SS is available with manual, which would make the fuel efficiency worse than if it used a CVT or automatic, but, for some folks, makes it more fun to drive. Reliability of the SS is below that of the Maxima, but then a person does not buy an SS as a family sedan or for reliability or fuel efficiency.The SS is a person's way of saying 'I am tired of normal. I am tired of 'sporty.' I need a true sports vehicle in my life.' And the SS is exactly that. I know Chevy was losing money on the SS, but was still surprised when they killed it. It was a 'one of a kind' vehicle that looked good and performed very well.

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Old Nov 23, 2017 | 06:28 AM
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I have no great expectations for the fuel mileage. My day to day average in the Maxima is 25. When I run to town it is 15 miles, mostly flat, speed limit of 55 and no stop lights. So this makes it about optimum to get great mileage. I expect the SS to average 18 and maybe 22-23 on a long trip.

"The SS is a person's way of saying 'I am tired of normal. I am tired of 'sporty.' I need a true sports vehicle in my life.' And the SS is exactly that".

Well written. And would add the SS has a nice combination of being a sports car, powerful, plus 4 doors and a trunk bigger than the one in the Maxima.

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Old Nov 23, 2017 | 07:28 AM
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In Magazine test results, the SS averaged a combined fuel efficiency of 17 MPG, compared with the Maxima's 25 MPG. You must have eggshells hidden under your accelerator pedal.

At over 400 HP, the SS is a far cry from a family sedan. In my opinion, the SS should be considered to be in the sports car category. It is RWD, which many sports car fans love, but which I ditched back in the 1970s. The SS is available with manual, which would make the fuel efficiency worse than if it used a CVT or automatic, but, for some folks, makes it more fun to drive. Reliability of the SS is below that of the Maxima, but then a person does not buy an SS as a family sedan or for reliability or fuel efficiency.The SS is a person's way of saying 'I am tired of normal. I am tired of 'sporty.' I need a true sports vehicle in my life.' And the SS is exactly that. I know Chevy was losing money on the SS, but was still surprised when they killed it. It was a 'one of a kind' vehicle that looked good and performed very well.
As I noted, I had a 7th Gen. Combined I would get around 20 mpg with it. Getting 18.5-19.5 in SS. As far as reliability, Nissan is not exactly on par with its Japanese counterparts. By 10,000 miles in the Maxima I already had my engine torn into for the bearing knock, a rocking driver's seat, and flaking paint on my front bumper. No issues so far on the SS. As far as it being a family sedan, it has more front, rear, head, foot and trunk space than the Maxima, and it fits our 3 kid seats in the back. Finally, it was built to fulfill a Holden union contract in Australia. GM never marketed the car and I doubt they lost money on it.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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That's not a sports car.
Old Nov 29, 2017 | 05:47 AM
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22.8 on the drive home. Have to be careful driving it or it is easy to send the rear tires up in smoke. Loved the Maxima, especially how roomy it is. But the surprising thing is the SS is easier to get in and out of (I am 5'10).
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Old Nov 29, 2017 | 09:32 AM
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22.8 on the drive home. Have to be careful driving it or it is easy to send the rear tires up in smoke. Loved the Maxima, especially how roomy it is. But the surprising thing is the SS is easier to get in and out of (I am 5'10).
I have followed your postings with keen interest on your trade for the Chevrolet. As a frequent vistor to Australia, I am very familiar with the Holden version of the SS. From my point of view, alot of this car reminded me of my earlier 63 to 66 Chevie Super Sports, having a modern car that you could row through the gears with and enjoy the great V-8 torque as well as the sounds the car makes. The rear drive platform makes for a sporty handling sedan. Add to the that the aftermarket parts trove and I can see why you like the car.

The downside is that you end up with an orphan car that may not hold it's value on trade. Add the cost of trading your Maxima in makes it a costly move all around. You might be thinking, "Thanks for stating the obvious!" Respectfully what I am suggesting is that our followers can learn from your experience and ask themselves if the Maxima really fits the bill of expectations or should a person take more time to see and accept a front drive V6 car over the much more sporty RWDs out there. For me at age 71, the Maxima was the right choice though I will agree, the car is not so easy to get in and out of. Keep us posted on the SS and it's performance.
Old Nov 29, 2017 | 03:14 PM
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Good comments. But I am betting these cars hold their value extremely well due to the RWD and Corvette LS3 V8. Time will tell
I am 65 and refuse to grow up. A little more history about buying the car......I wanted one from the get go but didnt want to spend $50K. Found the Maxima SL on sale for $30K so bought it. All of this in June. Fast forward to November where GM announced a 20% off MSRP sale for the SS. So I traded the Maxima for $27K and bought the SS for $40K. At this point in my life losing a few thousand to be happy doesnt bother me much.
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Old Nov 29, 2017 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunderjet
Good comments. But I am betting these cars hold their value extremely well due to the RWD and Corvette LS3 V8. Time will tell
I am 65 and refuse to grow up. A little more history about buying the car......I wanted one from the get go but didnt want to spend $50K. Found the Maxima SL on sale for $30K so bought it. All of this in June. Fast forward to November where GM announced a 20% off MSRP sale for the SS. So I traded the Maxima for $27K and bought the SS for $40K. At this point in my life losing a few thousand to be happy doesnt bother me much.
Cheers.
I know these 2 cars are completely different beasts. But I am so curious as I have not driven the SS personally. How does the Maxima hold up to it power wise? Or do you think the SS just completely wipes the floor compared to the Maxima? Its really not a fair comparison one bit I know. But really curious power wise....
Old Nov 30, 2017 | 04:42 AM
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Power wise there is no comparison, the SS is way ahead. But it should be with 415 hp and 415 torque. The SS is bascially dead even with a GT V8 Mustang but with a huge back seat and trunk with more capacity than the Maxima. I don't know the current 0-60 times for the Max but the SS runs it in 4.7 seconds.

I did not once feel our Maxima was under powered for being a sporty large "luxury" sedan. Nothing built in the USA compares with the SS as far as power and safety features other than a very expensive Cadillac CTSV

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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunderjet
Power wise there is no comparison, the SS is way ahead. But it should be with 415 hp and 415 torque. The SS is bascially dead even with a GT V8 Mustang but with a huge back seat and trunk with more capacity than the Maxima. I don't know the current 0-60 times for the Max but the SS runs it in 4.7 seconds.

I did not once feel our Maxima was under powered for being a sporty large "luxury" sedan. Nothing built in the USA compares with the SS as far as power and safety features other than a very expensive Cadillac CTSV
C&D says the Maxima runs at 5.7 0-60 time. https://www.0-60specs.com/nissan-maxima-0-60-times/ I am not buying that 1 bit its 1 second behind that SS. That would put them almost neck and neck with each other.

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C&D says the Maxima runs at 5.7 0-60 time. https://www.0-60specs.com/nissan-maxima-0-60-times/ I am not buying that 1 bit its 1 second behind that SS. That would put them almost neck and neck with each other.
1.2 sec is quit a bit when velocity/acceleration is involved, but a big indicator is the trap speed in the 1/4. The SS is doing it at 111 mph and the Max is at 102 mph, so the SS pulls much harder as speed builds as it should as its 115 horsepower advantage starts to show....
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1.2 sec is quit a bit when velocity/acceleration is involved, but a big indicator is the trap speed in the 1/4. The SS is doing it at 111 mph and the Max is at 102 mph, so the SS pulls much harder as speed builds as it should as its 115 horsepower advantage starts to show....
Well said. A difference of 8-10 mph in trap speed over a 1/4 mile is significant. I have read on other forums that every .1 second in the 1/4 mile time roughly equates to 1 car length (15 feet). So if the Maxima runs a 14.2 compared to the SS running 12.8, it will likely be 10+ car lengths behind.

Car and Driver has reviewed both a 2014 SS and 2016 Maxima SR which further shows differences in acceleration:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ed-test-review

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ed-test-review

Note the differences in 0-100mph (10.5 vs 14.1) and that the SS went 0-150mph in 28.6 seconds, while the Maxima went 0-130 in about the same time (27.3 seconds).

All this said, the SS does not "feel" particularly fast (as a Charger or live axle Mustang do when you floor it), and its acceleration is not its strongest attribute. Instead, it is the combination of a very balanced chassis with an excellent suspension/brakes, combined with the okay (and easily up-gradable) power, that many of us appreciate in a car of this size.
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For $40k it is a true bargain. LS3 motor, magnetic ride control with 3 settings ($1,795 option on the Corvette coupe), power seats both sides with memory settings, dual automatic climate control, All standard. It is a nice balanced package of handling and power while packaged in what appears just to be another FWD daily driver Impala. State Farm also lowered my rates $60 every 6 months from the Maxima premium. One of the more important reasons I wanted one is because the car is such a sleeper. Very few people know what or how capable they are. It will pull almost 1 G on the track.
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The SS had issues including not initially launching with a manual transmission, and real advertisments for the car aside from NASCAR.
But since this is Chevy's 4-door Camaro , you and others do have a right to believe that this car's value will hold up. They are nice. Seeing one on the road is like seeing a unicorn.
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The SS it is not sell in Mexico....

I already tested the Kia Stinger GT V6 RWD....sadly, it comes with more adds than my Maxima SR (HUD, blind point warnings, etc), more HPs, but not enough despite of twin turbo engine (well, that it is not relevant for me)....7 years of warranty..!!...and zero rattles, noises etc in a demo car with 5k in the odometer....price near the Maxima Platinum....
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The SS had issues including not initially launching with a manual transmission, and real advertisments for the car aside from NASCAR.
But since this is Chevy's 4-door Camaro , you and others do have a right to believe that this car's value will hold up. They are nice. Seeing one on the road is like seeing a unicorn.
I doubt the auto cars will increase in value down the road (within the next 10 years). Just hoping they hold their value well. Some bought to flip for a profit down the road but I just don't see that happening. But if a guy bought a new manual and didn't title it he might be able to make a few bucks on it right now since the 20% discount went away on 1 Dec.
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Nice car. Nice specs. Nice interior. I just can't get over the exterior of the car. Most people can't tell this is a special chevy cause of it's looks. Shame this car should try to be close to the corvette in the looks department but its competing with the malibu.
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Nice car. Nice specs. Nice interior. I just can't get over the exterior of the car. Most people can't tell this is a special chevy cause of it's looks. Shame this car should try to be close to the corvette in the looks department but its competing with the malibu.
And this is one of the main reasons I bought it. It looks plain jane until you hit the gas or the curves. A true sleeper that flys under the radar. Parked at Costco yesterday to do some shopping. When I came out 2 guys were standing besides that car checking it out. Both thought it was a Malibou, then they noticed the brakes, the wide tires, etc. They were both shocked when the hood popped and they seen the LS3. One guy called BS on the price ($40K) till I showed him the bill of sale, lol.
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For what it's worth: "Would you buy a four-door Chevrolet sedan for $47,000? If you answered no, you agree with just about every U.S. car consumer. Chevy’s rear-wheel Super Sport (SS) bruiser was always a darling of the critics that never sold, but it has reached the point where it barely registers. As of February 2017, SS had locked down 244th place and was selling a mere 312 units a month. Fittingly, SS production will end with the demise of GM’s Australian operation in 2017."

Above from "America’s Least Wanted: 25 Cars on Life Support in 2017" https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobil...tml/?a=viewall
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Surprise to see the Chevy Impala not make the list. Rumor has it that model will be gone as well after this gen.
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Surprise to see the Chevy Impala not make the list. Rumor has it that model will be gone as well after this gen.
I don't know much about the sales figures of the Impala, but would tend to agree based on my gut reaction to that car. It's a car that seems to check all the right boxes, it's reasonably fast, it's got a huge interior, the styling isn't too bad. But my reaction was just ... Meh! It's just so uninspiring that I couldn't see myself behind the wheel.

When it comes to the SS, it's kinda cool to have a "sleeper", but I guess I'm getting too old to care about racing punks on the street. The Max might not be the fastest or sportiest car on the street, but its style really stands out. My wife wasn't really into the Max at first, even after I showed her some pictures. But after seeing one in person and sitting in in that cockpit, she's all in on it now
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GM's mistake was where they had it priced. At $50K few buyers wanted it. Once they dropped it down to $40K it sold fast. Now there are less than 100 in stock in the USA. Nothing inspires sales or values more than the parent company saying you can't have it any more.

Different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't buy one for $50K. But at $40k it is/was a bargain. However, you really need to drive one before rendering an opinion. The SS is a niche car. It never was designed for the masses. It could never compete with a 4/6 cylinder Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. It is a 415 hp V8 that will smoke the tires, handle like it is on rails and gets mediocre gas mileage.

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Originally Posted by Fishlet
I don't know much about the sales figures of the Impala, but would tend to agree based on my gut reaction to that car. It's a car that seems to check all the right boxes, it's reasonably fast, it's got a huge interior, the styling isn't too bad. But my reaction was just ... Meh! It's just so uninspiring that I couldn't see myself behind the wheel.

When it comes to the SS, it's kinda cool to have a "sleeper", but I guess I'm getting too old to care about racing punks on the street. The Max might not be the fastest or sportiest car on the street, but its style really stands out. My wife wasn't really into the Max at first, even after I showed her some pictures. But after seeing one in person and sitting in in that cockpit, she's all in on it now
I had the same vibe with the Maxima as your wife. I seen plenty of pictures and videos etc. Then when I actually seen it in person. I was sold! It looks better in person then pics/videos imo. The styling is definitely its own and unique. You either love it or hate it.
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Originally Posted by Thunderjet
GM's mistake was where they had it priced. At $50K few buyers wanted it. Once they dropped it down to $40K it sold fast. Now there are less than 100 in stock in the USA. Nothing inspires sales or values more than the parent company saying you can't have it any more.

Different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't buy one for $50K. But at $40k it is/was a bargain. However, you really need to drive one before rendering an opinion. The SS is a niche car. It never was designed for the masses. It could never compete with a 4/6 cylinder Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. It is a 415 hp V8 that will smoke the tires, handle like it is on rails and gets mediocre gas mileage.
I'd have to disagree with you on the part highlighted in Bold. No wise automaker is going to design and sell a car in the 40k to 50k range just to appease a niche market.


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