robtroxel

To begin with I did get a fair lease deal with roughly the same payment as with my just departed 2016 Plat. And this 2019 sticker'd for 3 grand more ($45690)

Observations so far:

This car is noticeably quieter! Maybe its more insulation and heavier glass.
The Smart part of the cruise can be defeated if you need to!
The Bose system has more Bass punch but still not audiophile quality. Good enough for me though.
The 19s seem to ride ok. Has Goodyear tires. Did have to reduce tire pressure back to 35 lbs on each corner.
The updated LED lights, front and rear look great. though I don't see any higher light throw in front.
Finally I can vertically adjust the front passenger seat! Something not possible on the departed 2016 Plat
I like the rear end, fake quads and all. I ordered the rear diffuser and it looks great! (Sorry a pic will be posted later)
Navigation interface has been improved allowing views down to 1/64th. In general the are more screen buttons to get things done without paging through menus.
Getting used to the "big Brother" steering wheel nudges is the system thinks I am wonder across lane lines.
Speed sign recognition camera works fast and accurate.
This car still has a spare tire and jack standard! Something Acura Owners do not get!
I appreciate know there are outboard rear passender side air bags (in addition to the curtain airbags)
Also Kudos to Nissan for adding front knee airbags on both sides (hopefully never to be used)
Current getting 30 mpg on the highway with just 180 miles on the clock. (On regular always)
For Lindros, my rear seat upholstery came through without the uneveness you experienced around the middle headrest boster.
The heated steering wheel seems very slow to heat up and not as warm as the 2016. It may be my 1st squalk.

Gator5000e

Steptide

Just curious, how do access the weather map?

Gator5000e

Steptide

Thanks! I'm just new to the maxima so I don't know how to do everything just yet

FattiesGoneWild

Max2013

Fishlet

lindros2

Couple things:
1. The quieter part is due to active noise cancellation (via Bose speakers). However, after 1000 miles, both of my front windows are "chattering" - and it's not even cold here.
2. My smart cruise control jams the brakes, and then accelerates. I have to see if the dealer can adjust it.
3. Forgot about vertical passenger seat - I feel like every mid-cycle refresh has this, and most of the time I've missed it. Then again, my prior two cars (pre-Maxima) were BMW 5-series with 18/20-way Comfort seats, so...
4. The lane assist blows compared to my Honda Odyssey. The Honda actively steers and can recognize lanes. The Maxima does a poor job, AND hits the brakes once it detects wandering out of lanes.
5. It's not speed sign recognition (i.e. Audi, Mercedes, Genesis, etc.). It's strictly the speed sign data from the map.
(you can turn off the speed sign info in the gauge cluster, since it tends to only be about 75-80% correct in my area. Then again, the 2016 was about 50% correct)
6. Heated steering wheel is definitely more subtle. The 2016 could have cooked pancakes it got so hot. Probably a running change or different supplier.

The sports score stuff is a disaster. It's worse than the old way, but still the same hunting around.
There is now an overall "favorite team" and "favorite weather city" on the main SiriusXM audio channel page.
NEITHER work (my city isn't listed, and my sports team never has alerts even when the game is active).

The weather map is a little better if I recall. The 2016 was dicey (I had it all along - subscribed to All Access + Traffic + Weather for $177/yr).

lindros2

Also Rob - did you notice the new trunk access "plunger" - you can put the seat down from inside the car (in addition to the two release straps from the trunk).
HOWEVER... does this lock?
Or is it a vulnerability (like you can break into car and access the trunk without a key)?

Maxman200

Would you be willing to share the deal you got?

lindros2

Steptide

This is accurate. I was able to get about $8000 off on my 18 sv. Both the 19s and 18s had discounts, but the 18s had larger discounts. I couldnt turn down a $360 payment per month on the 18sv vs a $475 payment on a 19sv.

robtroxel

With $3000 total out of pocket including all taxes, plates, plus rubber winter floor mats, rubber trunk tray etc the monthly was $450 with 15,000 miles per year.(36 months)
What was interesting is that the residual is around 22K for the 2019. For my 2016 Plat, Nissan Finance wanted almost 23K for a buy out, yet the trade in prices I see for that car were closer to 17-18K. Glad I leased!

Steptide

Residual values on cars are horrendous nowadays with crossovers being the big sellers. This maxima is my 4th lease and the residual value after 3 years is around 15k. That's absurd. Sticker price of $36k and a value of $15k after 3 years. Granted the 18s value have dropped more with the 19s being out . Still, cars are not holding their value anywhere near what they used to

robtroxel

5. It's not speed sign recognition (i.e. Audi, Mercedes, Genesis, etc.). It's strictly the speed sign data from the map.

I think I'm correct as the 2019 owners manual points out the camera mounted up near the rear view mirror that is used to read the actual speed limit signs. I realize our 2016s had a speed sign info in the dash display that was linked to the GPS database and that was often wrong.
The newest version "reads" the sign via the camera and updates that on the dash read out however it also reverts to the GPS data base if it cannot update frequently. I checked this out moving from some temporary road construction speed signs which varied from 35 to 45 to 55 and the car dash read outs were correct shifting up and down as the actual signs appeared.

robtroxel

I sure agree with what you say. As first glance you might think it is a Nissan depreciation issue, but I was cross shopping Acura TLX and Toyota Avalon, each loaded to the gills with $45-46 stickers. The TLX came in @ $495 monthly and the Avalon at $475 monthly with 15,000 miles and 36 months. The Genisis G70 was up over $700, same miles and downpayment. It also stickered at 54K . Not a great experience with Hyundia ...ERR...Genesis dealerships here1

robtroxel

Thanks for the kind words. One thing I want to be sure everyone knows is that the 2016-2018 Maximas are still the standard when it come to great cars for the money. Some might say I paid a bunch to go with a 2019, given the remarkable 2018 deals out there and I would agree. I was just ready for the 2019 after having the 2016 for 40 months. It was kind of sad to part with the 2016 given the fine service it has given us over that time.

robtroxel

No I did not. Can you fill me in on where to look for this plunger?

robtroxel

As you know, there are always better deals out there but after cross shopping many cars, I kept coming back to the Maxima which is equipped very well for the money involved. Plus I still can get 30+ mpg on Regular consistantly. Thanks for the note!

robtroxel

Strange you mentioned that headliner handle. Sorry to say it remans missing on the 2019 drivers side.
One thing I always do is add insulation under the rear seat for even more quietness. I used foam carpet padding. The rear seat is easy to remove by pulling out a slide clip on each side of the seat just above the footwell

Steptide

Even camrys, accords etc don't hold their value anymore. My previous car was a camry so before the maxima was even a thought in my head, I was looking at similar cars (maxda 6,, accord, altima and so on) and the leases on these cars were just as bad(value wise) . Problem is residual values have gone way down while auto makers are keeping the prices the same or raising them

robtroxel

Had another "Aha" moment last night when I discovered the ambient lighting can actually be seen at night! Thats the light strips behind the passenger dash panel as well as the front door panel accents on both sides. I had to turn up the intensity via the settings control but it is far more visible than my 2016.

lindros2

It's "whiter" on the 2019.
The 2016 was more "orange", which made it tough to see.
Our Honda Odyssey is "blue", so it's more visible, but not obnoxious like Hyundai.