K-Sport Coilovers Talk
Originally Posted by sciff5
Almost everyone has had clicking noise
Originally Posted by sciff5
It seems like there are constantly issues with coilovers where as issues with spring/strut combo are minimal.
It's a $700-$800 coilover system that has almost all the features of a set costing twice as much. There's always a catch.
Mind you, I count no more than 6 incidents of problems that required warranty service. Considering how many units Ksport has sold, that's really not bad....
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Perhaps. And then they tighten everything properly and all is well...
Yes, issues with spring/strut combos are minimal by comparison. Kinda like handling.
It's a $700-$800 coilover system that has almost all the features of a set costing twice as much. There's always a catch.
Mind you, I count no more than 6 incidents of problems that required warranty service. Considering how many units Ksport has sold, that's really not bad....
Yes, issues with spring/strut combos are minimal by comparison. Kinda like handling.
It's a $700-$800 coilover system that has almost all the features of a set costing twice as much. There's always a catch.
Mind you, I count no more than 6 incidents of problems that required warranty service. Considering how many units Ksport has sold, that's really not bad....
Jesus man are you gettin paid off by ksport??? You should sell their product for a living, you'de be good
Well, since there's probably less than 20 people who have posted in this thread who have the coilovers, that's pretty bad. 6/20, and there will probably be more as time goes by. And ManualMaxima hasn't been able to solve his clicking problem (see his last post).
We could give Ksport the benefit of the doubt since it's still a fairly new product, but there shouldn't be this many problems, especially if they just took an earlier design and "improved" on it.
We could give Ksport the benefit of the doubt since it's still a fairly new product, but there shouldn't be this many problems, especially if they just took an earlier design and "improved" on it.
Originally Posted by sciff5
I just wasted 2 hours of my life reading through these posts only to find out at the end that these things are NO WHERE near reliable enough for me to put it on my car. Almost everyone has had clicking noise, now there have been several of them that broke. Others leaked oil... My car is my daily driver and roads around me are pretty crappy. I dont like the idea of having my ride be bouncy if I hit some bumps at 75.
I was really buying into this but seriously I dont like dealing with constant BS when it comes to my mods (one reason I'll never buy a turbo kit for the max) It seems like there are constantly issues with coilovers where as issues with spring/strut combo are minimal.
I was really buying into this but seriously I dont like dealing with constant BS when it comes to my mods (one reason I'll never buy a turbo kit for the max) It seems like there are constantly issues with coilovers where as issues with spring/strut combo are minimal.
Your also not counting the many who have coilovers but arent posting in this thread, they more than likely arent posting because they arent having any problems. My D2's are quite and smooth. I adjusted them a few times and sicne then thats it.
or get some JIC's no one who purchased those have had problems with them:
Originally Posted by dukelubas
I had that clunk from my right rear coilover since late last summer (they were installed last May). I thought it might have been my rusting exhaust/hangers but last week the issue came to a head. I pulled the wheel to investigate and when I rolled it away I had a decent sized puddle of oil. Shock oil. The shock ruptured and had rendered itself useless. I called K-sport who told me to send it back to them for repair. They should have received it just today so I don't know the diagnosis. Looks like K-Sport has some QC issues they need to work out.
yup looks like mine blew, ksport has had it for a few days now, and i sent in the other three to get checked out while they were there. so hopefully it will all be ok now
another thing is that im very dissapointed with the guy on aim, this was part of the conversation i had with him
[14:41] KrNnAmJa67: you know, this isnt going to look too good for you guys... i was the first 4th gen maxima to buy your coilovers on maxima.org forums, and it was my review that got almost everyone else to buy them...
[14:41] KrNnAmJa67: and to have a strut leaking oil in less than a year is really bothersome
[14:42] KSPORTSUPPORT: if you were the first than you are out of warranty, they have been selling in the states since 2004
[14:43] KSPORTSUPPORT: you are over a year out of warranty than
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: because now i need to take all four out, and put in my stock again because i cant go for 48 hours with out
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: wow
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: i got them last year around april may
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: i was the first on the FORUMS not in the states
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: do you want me to dig in my email and find my invoice?
[14:44] KrNnAmJa67: please dont try and be a smart *** about this, all im saying is that Jinsu came onto our forums last year and introduced you guys to us
[14:45] KSPORTSUPPORT: im not being a smart ***, you just said you were the first so this is going to look really bad
[14:45] KrNnAmJa67: i was the one who went ahead and bought these to hopefully bring a new company into our community
[14:45] KSPORTSUPPORT: and i know some vendors sold on the maxima forum in 2004 as well for a short time, that is why i say that
[14:45] KrNnAmJa67: well not a single person on the forums have heard about these untill jinsu came along
[14:46] KSPORTSUPPORT: hmm, possibly than, not sure
[14:41] KrNnAmJa67: you know, this isnt going to look too good for you guys... i was the first 4th gen maxima to buy your coilovers on maxima.org forums, and it was my review that got almost everyone else to buy them...
[14:41] KrNnAmJa67: and to have a strut leaking oil in less than a year is really bothersome
[14:42] KSPORTSUPPORT: if you were the first than you are out of warranty, they have been selling in the states since 2004
[14:43] KSPORTSUPPORT: you are over a year out of warranty than
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: because now i need to take all four out, and put in my stock again because i cant go for 48 hours with out
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: wow
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: i got them last year around april may
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: i was the first on the FORUMS not in the states
[14:43] KrNnAmJa67: do you want me to dig in my email and find my invoice?
[14:44] KrNnAmJa67: please dont try and be a smart *** about this, all im saying is that Jinsu came onto our forums last year and introduced you guys to us
[14:45] KSPORTSUPPORT: im not being a smart ***, you just said you were the first so this is going to look really bad
[14:45] KrNnAmJa67: i was the one who went ahead and bought these to hopefully bring a new company into our community
[14:45] KSPORTSUPPORT: and i know some vendors sold on the maxima forum in 2004 as well for a short time, that is why i say that
[14:45] KrNnAmJa67: well not a single person on the forums have heard about these untill jinsu came along
[14:46] KSPORTSUPPORT: hmm, possibly than, not sure
Originally Posted by MDeezy
Then dont buy them, simple as that. You know for your living conditions, and lack of patience is an easy decision not to buy them. Get a good strut/spring combo and call it a day.
Your also not counting the many who have coilovers but arent posting in this thread, they more than likely arent posting because they arent having any problems. My D2's are quite and smooth. I adjusted them a few times and sicne then thats it.
or get some JIC's no one who purchased those have had problems with them:
Your also not counting the many who have coilovers but arent posting in this thread, they more than likely arent posting because they arent having any problems. My D2's are quite and smooth. I adjusted them a few times and sicne then thats it.
or get some JIC's no one who purchased those have had problems with them:
Price, Performance, Reliability: Pick two.
I'm not getting paid by Ksport. Just saying it how it is.
EDIT: This post was quoted below and reflects incorrect information according to Ksport, so I have (completely of my own free will and with no prompting from them) deleted it and made a new post below.
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Just found some interesting numbers. I don't want to seem like I'm G.I. Ksport, because I'm not. I just think that if people are going to be making declarations about Ksport's quality, they should at least know what they're dealing with. Hell, I own their coilovers too. It's also in my best interest to know.
Before I begin, I should say that these are VERY crude numbers based on INCOMPLETE information, and should not be considered accurate. I will update them if I get more info.
Dunno if anyone remembers but Ksport actually posted in this thread here and stated that they had sold over 85 kits for Maximas alone. That was near the end of June 2005. Jinsu himself has sold nearly 60 kits total. Assuming about 2/3 of Jinsu's sales were after June, that makes a total of over 125 Maxima kits sold -- without even counting the number of kits sold since then by other vendors. But let's be d*cks and say the total is 125, even though it must be more than that.
Now let's count the failures. We're going to leave out installation issues and problems that were easily corrected with a wrench.
A quick search in this thread reveals three incidences of blown shocks (max929, dukelubas, and Mr.Duck). I seem to remember one person having a problem with the pillow ball mount (although I can't really find it now), one person had a bolt break on him, and I had my freak rear mount problem, so that's a total of six.
Now let's be d*cks again and double those numbers for no good reason: 12 total major failures.
Drumroll please.
9.6% failure rate. And that's assuming they only sold 125 kits and had twice as many failures as we can see, which might be pretty pessimistic.
If that's too much for you, then fair enough. It's your money. And in all fairness, if that's the right number, it's relatively high.
But to be honest, you're going to have a hard time doing better than that without paying double on modding a car with small aftermarket support into doing stuff it was never designed to do.
And of course, PLEASE feel free to set the record straight if I made any mistakes.
Before I begin, I should say that these are VERY crude numbers based on INCOMPLETE information, and should not be considered accurate. I will update them if I get more info.
Dunno if anyone remembers but Ksport actually posted in this thread here and stated that they had sold over 85 kits for Maximas alone. That was near the end of June 2005. Jinsu himself has sold nearly 60 kits total. Assuming about 2/3 of Jinsu's sales were after June, that makes a total of over 125 Maxima kits sold -- without even counting the number of kits sold since then by other vendors. But let's be d*cks and say the total is 125, even though it must be more than that.
Now let's count the failures. We're going to leave out installation issues and problems that were easily corrected with a wrench.
A quick search in this thread reveals three incidences of blown shocks (max929, dukelubas, and Mr.Duck). I seem to remember one person having a problem with the pillow ball mount (although I can't really find it now), one person had a bolt break on him, and I had my freak rear mount problem, so that's a total of six.
Now let's be d*cks again and double those numbers for no good reason: 12 total major failures.
Drumroll please.
9.6% failure rate. And that's assuming they only sold 125 kits and had twice as many failures as we can see, which might be pretty pessimistic.
If that's too much for you, then fair enough. It's your money. And in all fairness, if that's the right number, it's relatively high.
But to be honest, you're going to have a hard time doing better than that without paying double on modding a car with small aftermarket support into doing stuff it was never designed to do.
And of course, PLEASE feel free to set the record straight if I made any mistakes.
9.6% is a VERY high failure rate. There are very few things that people will buy if theres a 10% chance it will fail within the first year, especially if they have to count on it to get them to work everyday.
I do love the reviews on handling though as I would love to have my car oversteer. I guess what I'm looking for is something between the spring/strut combo and coilovers. If I could design my own setup it would have progressive springs that had an initial spring rate of like 220 but than as it was compressed went to 350-400 with an externally adjustable strut like the illuminas. but no one makes anything like that. I dont think the Konis can handle a spring that high even if there was one out there and I dont think they are externaly adjustable in the back.
Originally Posted by sciff5
9.6% is a VERY high failure rate. There are very few things that people will buy if theres a 10% chance it will fail within the first year, especially if they have to count on it to get them to work everyday.
But you have to admit, if a >90% chance of success is too low for you, maybe you shouldn't be modifying the car you depend on to get to work every day...
Originally Posted by sciff5
I do love the reviews on handling though as I would love to have my car oversteer.
But you know, hey, whatever makes you happy...
Originally Posted by sciff5
I guess what I'm looking for is something between the spring/strut combo and coilovers. If I could design my own setup it would have progressive springs that had an initial spring rate of like 220 but than as it was compressed went to 350-400 with an externally adjustable strut like the illuminas. but no one makes anything like that. I dont think the Konis can handle a spring that high even if there was one out there and I dont think they are externaly adjustable in the back.
Perhaps what you meant to say is that you want something better than a spring/strut combo but with less risk of problems than with these particular coilovers? If that's the case, then your only options are:
- JIC coilovers (expensive)
- Ground Controls (less suspension travel unless you use shortened struts)
Either way, it sounds like you need to do some more reading on shock absorbers. Koni Yellows are MUCH better than Tokico Illuminas, and they can handle much stiffer springs. They are also definitely externally adjustable in the back (you just need to remove them first).
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Didn't you just say you have to depend on your car to get to work daily? How is getting oversteer out of a front-heavy car with a super-flexible chassis and an unsophisticated rear suspension -- and then driving it on public roads -- any less of a gamble than a >90% chance that your coilovers won't break?
I never drive hard enough to create a situation where I have a 10% change of wrecking the car at any given moment.
I do have a quesiton about the GCs though. If I got them and only dropped my car an inch or so, wouldent I have plenty of travel. Dont you only get in trouble with GCs and travel when you slam em.
But you're still stuck with the rear beam. By the time you stiffen the rear and loosen the front enough to get significant oversteer, your car will ride and handle like a$$, and it will punish you the instant you forget to take a bumpy corner like a granny.
The point is that it won't be as safe as you think. That's part of why most coilovers for our cars have stiffer front springs, which keep an understeer bias at the limit -- if anything happens that makes you lose the rear end momentarily, they let you get it back quickly.
And by the way, a Mini weighs several hundred pounds less, has a BMW-designed 4-wheel fully independent suspension, and supposedly has the most rigid frame of any car ever mass-produced. I'm not sure if that was a good comparison.
The point is that it won't be as safe as you think. That's part of why most coilovers for our cars have stiffer front springs, which keep an understeer bias at the limit -- if anything happens that makes you lose the rear end momentarily, they let you get it back quickly.
And by the way, a Mini weighs several hundred pounds less, has a BMW-designed 4-wheel fully independent suspension, and supposedly has the most rigid frame of any car ever mass-produced. I'm not sure if that was a good comparison.
Originally Posted by d00df00d
And by the way, a Mini weighs several hundred pounds less, has a BMW-designed 4-wheel fully independent suspension, and supposedly has the most rigid frame of any car ever mass-produced. I'm not sure if that was a good comparison.
I was just stating that the fact that the car is front heavy is not going to make it uncontrollable. Yeah the mini isnt the best example but you could also use any of the other Japanese imports that are front wheel drive and have a rear beam.
I was also talking about slight oversteer like you are experiencing on your coilovers
You're right, front-heaviness doesn't make a car uncontrollable by itself. My point was that when you combine that front-heaviness with the rear beam suspension and a lot of dead weight, you get a chassis that is heavily predisposed to understeer. The only way to get oversteer with that setup is to overcome the chassis's predispositions by adding TONS of stiffness in the rear with your springs and sway bar, and loosening those components in the front. By the time you do that enough to get significant oversteer, you won't be able to count on it to keep it in check all the time, and it will be one hell of a handful to control if you ever hit a bump in mid-corner. Good luck trying to make that safe.
Besides, even if you could (maybe with massive rear tires), you'd still end up with a poorly riding car: stiff springs in the rear don't exactly help compliance when the rear of your car is so light.
I don't get anything but understeer with my coilovers unless I really, really chuck it foolishly hard into a really tight corner sometimes. According to a search of this thread, the only person who ever seems to have come out and reported even slight oversteer with these coilovers is Spaniard, who saw it on a race track with his race-prepped car.
Besides, even if you could (maybe with massive rear tires), you'd still end up with a poorly riding car: stiff springs in the rear don't exactly help compliance when the rear of your car is so light.
I don't get anything but understeer with my coilovers unless I really, really chuck it foolishly hard into a really tight corner sometimes. According to a search of this thread, the only person who ever seems to have come out and reported even slight oversteer with these coilovers is Spaniard, who saw it on a race track with his race-prepped car.
it ended with my apoligizing, cuz i want my **** taken care of, i dont want to be on bad terms while they have all 4 of my coilovers.
everytime i ask what the problem was or if any of the other coilovers are bad, he keeps on saying, the techs havnt told me yet.. so i just gotta wait now.
also i asked how much it would cost to fix these type of problems after the warranty is up, he said roughly 100 dollars, and according to him that is way cheaper than any other company. anyone got imput on that?
everytime i ask what the problem was or if any of the other coilovers are bad, he keeps on saying, the techs havnt told me yet.. so i just gotta wait now.
also i asked how much it would cost to fix these type of problems after the warranty is up, he said roughly 100 dollars, and according to him that is way cheaper than any other company. anyone got imput on that?
d00df00d, your reasoning is mostly sound, although you're forgetting that just because there are many Maxima owners with K-sports who haven't posted here does NOT mean they haven't had problems too! Tons of Maxima modders are not on Maxima.org.
Further, I have to second what sciff5 was saying: no one has had these for more than 1.5 years, and most people have had them much less than that. So the hypothetical worst-case failure rate of 10% is for only about the first year! Not good.
I'm still considering getting them but may go for the TEINs which have a better track record (although we don't have a TEIN Basic thread on the Org to compare with...).
Further, I have to second what sciff5 was saying: no one has had these for more than 1.5 years, and most people have had them much less than that. So the hypothetical worst-case failure rate of 10% is for only about the first year! Not good.
I'm still considering getting them but may go for the TEINs which have a better track record (although we don't have a TEIN Basic thread on the Org to compare with...).
Originally Posted by joebangaa
now i feel like selling mine....they're still unstalled 
I think the cold and huge potholes take a huge toll on all coilovers
Originally Posted by sciff5
Your in CA. Dont worry about it you dont have to deal with anywhere near as much crap as we do out in the North East. The roads are much better and the weather is always mild. In your type of conditions I would have bought these coilovers too.
I think the cold and huge potholes take a huge toll on all coilovers
I think the cold and huge potholes take a huge toll on all coilovers
ALL of the failures I can see have been on cars in or around the Northeast, one of which is in an area that the owner complained about for having terrible roads.
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even still, these things haven't been around that long. furthermore, i plan on keeping my car till the wheels fall off...and i really don't want to continually change my suspension set up until then...
ok i just installed mine and this is what i came up with. i live in NYC. compared to the tein super streets on my 240 at the same setting i found the k-sports to be a lil smoother. the fronts i found the easiest way to adjust was to remove the 2 bolts on the lower mount and to spin the lower mount on the car. the rear i adjust by undoing the top mount bolts jacking up the back of the car and lowering the rear end. spinning the whole assembly. i didnt even have to take the wheels off to adjust the rears. as of now i am very happy with the k-sports and have no noises coming from them. the quality looks great for the price and from what ive heard they have a pretty good rep in japan. they are also growing in popularity in the 240 forums and from what ive heard in other car applications forums as well. one my teins blew after about a year and a half. with the considerable drop coilovers give combined with the crappy roads of new york having a shock blow is expected. i think k-sports track record isnt bad at all considering everything. thats my .02
Originally Posted by jasonv
ok i just installed mine and this is what i came up with. i live in NYC. compared to the tein super streets on my 240 at the same setting i found the k-sports to be a lil smoother. the fronts i found the easiest way to adjust was to remove the 2 bolts on the lower mount and to spin the lower mount on the car. the rear i adjust by undoing the top mount bolts jacking up the back of the car and lowering the rear end. spinning the whole assembly. i didnt even have to take the wheels off to adjust the rears. as of now i am very happy with the k-sports and have no noises coming from them. the quality looks great for the price and from what ive heard they have a pretty good rep in japan. they are also growing in popularity in the 240 forums and from what ive heard in other car applications forums as well. one my teins blew after about a year and a half. with the considerable drop coilovers give combined with the crappy roads of new york having a shock blow is expected. i think k-sports track record isnt bad at all considering everything. thats my .02
but right now I'm in miami.
keep us updated on your experiences with them
Alright, ready for some info straight from the horse's mouth?
ksportsupport: we sold over 2400 kits in 2005
ksportsupport: which amounts to about 10,000 individual struts
ksportsupport: and the returns were under 50 individual struts
ksportsupport: i only had 3 defective maxima kits
TheUberclocker: out of how many total sold
TheUberclocker: it's gotta be around 200 or so, right?
ksportsupport: a few hundred
ksportsupport: i dont know exact
TheUberclocker: oh wow
TheUberclocker: alright
ksportsupport: more than that
ksportsupport: 100-200 i think just through the dealer on your board
ksportsupport: we have alot more dealers across the US
TheUberclocker: alright
TheUberclocker: thanks
There you have it:
<1% failure rate within one year across the board, and the same for Maxima kits.
ksportsupport: we sold over 2400 kits in 2005
ksportsupport: which amounts to about 10,000 individual struts
ksportsupport: and the returns were under 50 individual struts
ksportsupport: i only had 3 defective maxima kits
TheUberclocker: out of how many total sold
TheUberclocker: it's gotta be around 200 or so, right?
ksportsupport: a few hundred
ksportsupport: i dont know exact
TheUberclocker: oh wow
TheUberclocker: alright
ksportsupport: more than that
ksportsupport: 100-200 i think just through the dealer on your board
ksportsupport: we have alot more dealers across the US
TheUberclocker: alright
TheUberclocker: thanks
There you have it:
<1% failure rate within one year across the board, and the same for Maxima kits.
ok guys.. UPDATE!
they replaced the entire coilover that was leaking, and also replaced one of my fronts because of surface rust. The rust isnt even covered under warranty but they went ahead and replaced it anyways. here is my convo with them on aim just a few minutes ago
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: one rear and one front replaced
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: others maintained
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: ready to ship
[12:55] KrNnAmJa67: one front? what happened to the front?
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: not defective just a little surface rust on the shaft
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: thats not under warranty but we replaced it anyway
[12:56] KrNnAmJa67: ah ic, were they fully replaced, or fixed?
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: both replaced
[12:56] KrNnAmJa67: awesome, thanks
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: no prob
[12:56] KrNnAmJa67: so they are going to be shipped out soon? this body roll is killing me!
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: all the other rust came off, just try to clean them occasionaly
[12:57] KrNnAmJa67: sure thing
[12:57] KSPORTSUPPORT: the rust on the threads was just surface rust, and came off with wire brush
looks like the rumor about their good customer service is true.. ill be back to my good ol drop in no time! they are shipping them back to me today
they replaced the entire coilover that was leaking, and also replaced one of my fronts because of surface rust. The rust isnt even covered under warranty but they went ahead and replaced it anyways. here is my convo with them on aim just a few minutes ago
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: one rear and one front replaced
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: others maintained
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: ready to ship
[12:55] KrNnAmJa67: one front? what happened to the front?
[12:55] KSPORTSUPPORT: not defective just a little surface rust on the shaft
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: thats not under warranty but we replaced it anyway
[12:56] KrNnAmJa67: ah ic, were they fully replaced, or fixed?
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: both replaced
[12:56] KrNnAmJa67: awesome, thanks
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: no prob
[12:56] KrNnAmJa67: so they are going to be shipped out soon? this body roll is killing me!
[12:56] KSPORTSUPPORT: all the other rust came off, just try to clean them occasionaly
[12:57] KrNnAmJa67: sure thing
[12:57] KSPORTSUPPORT: the rust on the threads was just surface rust, and came off with wire brush
looks like the rumor about their good customer service is true.. ill be back to my good ol drop in no time! they are shipping them back to me today
dude.. they replaced one of my fronts cuz it had too much rust... they shouldnt have but they did! im not complaining.. haha and it should be back by friday, if they didnt forget my name it would have been shipped out last week, lol
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btw, can anybody tell me what this cracking noise is? it only happens when i steer to the left. i also hear it when coming to a stop everynow and then under hard braking...
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Originally Posted by VIP Maxima
btw, can anybody tell me what this cracking noise is? it only happens when i steer to the left. i also hear it when coming to a stop everynow and then under hard braking...
http://d7.yousendit.com/E/0PNVF9WKXN...KVYS/Movie.wmv
http://d7.yousendit.com/E/0PNVF9WKXN...KVYS/Movie.wmv
then if that don't work, try tighten the 19mm bolt thats located in the engine bay...the one near the dampening hole....40ft-lbs is the target tq
if that don't work, then
Originally Posted by VIP Maxima
steven, u talkin about the one that requires an allen wrench? im pretty sure they didnt tighten it up real good after i got my camber adjusted. it started happening right after i got that done
Guys and girls of course:
Please if you haven't already print out a copy of your paypal transaction report for your own records. Ksport WILL accept this as a reciept!!!!! Also, their moving in two weeks to a new warehouse so make sure to call them and find out where for future notice. I wrote it down but I can't seem to find it now
P.s. Go to history in your paypal account and you can look back up until January of last year.
Please if you haven't already print out a copy of your paypal transaction report for your own records. Ksport WILL accept this as a reciept!!!!! Also, their moving in two weeks to a new warehouse so make sure to call them and find out where for future notice. I wrote it down but I can't seem to find it now
P.s. Go to history in your paypal account and you can look back up until January of last year.