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Old May 10, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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i dont even know how to dump or raise the car. everytime i go to play with it, i simply give up.

Old May 10, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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The shock (the long, threaded piece) is very far up into your spring area. To get it down past the black collar all you have to do is loosen the two preload collars and spin it down. This will enable you to raise your car up a lot.
Old May 10, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Maxima
The shock (the long, threaded piece) is very far up into your spring area. To get it down past the black collar all you have to do is loosen the two preload collars and spin it down. This will enable you to raise your car up a lot.

WERD....Good point.
Old May 10, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ManualMaxima
i have a question is this safe? i need my car higher no joke.....i have to have it higher......the lower mount is fully threaded and the black collar atthe bottom has a good amount of thread on it. do you think that this will be safe? cause i would imagine all the pressure is put on the collar above the mount......please hit me back up...



Doesn't that seem a lil scary, what if the collar spin out, if it possible??? Why dun you preload it all the way?
Old May 11, 2006 | 02:20 AM
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Once you tighten the bottom mount, the two bolt hole tabs squeeze the mount together, making it virtually impossible for the bottom collar to spin off.
Old May 11, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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ManualMaxima - Do you have another picture of the whole strut on the table? I would like to see one of the top spring area. A full shot of it would be great. I believe your shock is spun way up in there.
Old May 11, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Like this?
Old May 11, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Yo, azn, does the shock piece come out of the lower mount?
Old May 11, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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BREAKING NEWS
After securing a replacement coilover for my leaking rear strut I asked the tech guy if there were any plans on offering an in car driver adjustable option for the dampeners. His snawer was: "Yes, we've been working on it for a year now. We are trying to develop a retrofit top plate so it will mount on all exitsting K-Sport coilovers without having to buy a new coilover set." No specific date was given on when testing would be finished and ready for sale. I just thought everyone might want to know!
Old May 11, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Maxima
Yo, azn, does the shock piece come out of the lower mount?
yeah What you mean by the shock piece? You can get the springs and all the perches out, all you need to do is just twist it.

Wondering, can the rear and front spring swap around?
Old May 12, 2006 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
BREAKING NEWS
After securing a replacement coilover for my leaking rear strut I asked the tech guy if there were any plans on offering an in car driver adjustable option for the dampeners. His snawer was: "Yes, we've been working on it for a year now. We are trying to develop a retrofit top plate so it will mount on all exitsting K-Sport coilovers without having to buy a new coilover set." No specific date was given on when testing would be finished and ready for sale. I just thought everyone might want to know!
Beautiful.

Now, if only they would be so kind as to offer dampers with digressive valving and maybe frequency selective damping. But eh, I guess a digital controller and four little servos are a lot cheaper to develop than serious dampers....
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
BREAKING NEWS
After securing a replacement coilover for my leaking rear strut I asked the tech guy if there were any plans on offering an in car driver adjustable option for the dampeners. His snawer was: "Yes, we've been working on it for a year now. We are trying to develop a retrofit top plate so it will mount on all exitsting K-Sport coilovers without having to buy a new coilover set." No specific date was given on when testing would be finished and ready for sale. I just thought everyone might want to know!

That would be awesome. I wondered that when a friend of mine had a civic with electronic adjustable coilovers......stupid civic

Even better if they will slap right on to the coilovers we have now.
Old May 12, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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has anyone changed springs out to ones that are a little softer? My car has changed duties and has become a daily driver and rather rough roads, and my kidneys do not appreciate the harsh treatment they are recieving. So if anyone has changed the springs to a softer rate please let me know thanks.
Old May 12, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Old May 13, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Now, if only they would be so kind as to offer dampers with digressive valving and maybe frequency selective damping. But eh, I guess a digital controller and four little servos are a lot cheaper to develop than serious dampers....
It's an upgrade I'd be happy with!
Old May 16, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I got a few question to the owners of k-sports:

1) Are you guys happy with the maintenance? (How much time do you have to spend to keep them in a proper condition?)

2) How long does it take to get new shocks under warranty.

3) How much would it cost me to replace one shock after warranty expires?

4) What's the brand of the shock absorbers?

5) If you had to do it all over, would you get k-sports again? If not, what would you get?

Sorry if it was already discussed but this thread is so long that it's almost impossible to find exactly what you are looking for.
Old May 16, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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1. The last time I cleaned and adjusted my D2s was about 5-6 months ago and since then they are still working fine, no sounds.

2. Never had to replace one

3. Never had to replace one

4. Dont know.

5. So far I have been pretty happy with them. A few minor things here and there that I dont like. Such as the way you adjust the shock dampening, and the fact that you have to make your own brake line bracket. But other than that I think they are good for the money. I have absolutely no interest in getting tein basics, and I would never spend the money that JICs cost for this car.
Old May 16, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlasic
1. The last time I cleaned and adjusted my D2s...
thats cool and all but this is a thread about K-Sports...

anyway, i've only had mine for a few weeks so im not sure about the maintenance, but they seem pretty easy to adjust. once you find the settings you like, tighten everything down really well and you should be fine.
Old May 16, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Ksports and d2's are pretty much the same and anything that applies to ksports applies to D2's and vise versa.
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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I love how people keep complaining about people posting D2 impressions here...they are essentially the same coilover system; the main difference is the color.
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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could anyone else answer these questions please?

Originally Posted by DrKlop
I got a few question to the owners of k-sports:

1) Are you guys happy with the maintenance? (How much time do you have to spend to keep them in a proper condition?)

2) How long does it take to get new shocks under warranty.

3) How much would it cost me to replace one shock after warranty expires?

4) What's the brand of the shock absorbers?

5) If you had to do it all over, would you get k-sports again? If not, what would you get?

Sorry if it was already discussed but this thread is so long that it's almost impossible to find exactly what you are looking for.
Old May 16, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlasic
Ksports and d2's are pretty much the same and anything that applies to ksports applies to D2's and vise versa.
Ah, sorry about that.. i didn't know
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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I got a few question to the owners of k-sports:

1) Are you guys happy with the maintenance? (How much time do you have to spend to keep them in a proper condition?)

i retightened everything down about 3 months ago, and been good since, and before that didnt have to touch em for about 7 months, i will be taking them out in the next few weeks to clean em up a bit though

2) How long does it take to get new shocks under warranty.

when i sent my stuff in i got them back in less than 2 weeks, and this is including me taking everything off, shipping out, them fixing 1 shock, check the other 3 coilovers, and fixing a second shock after seeing too much rust

3) How much would it cost me to replace one shock after warranty expires?

when i talked to kspor they said to replace one shock it would only cost about 100 dollars

4) What's the brand of the shock absorbers?

i have no idea on this one sorry

5) If you had to do it all over, would you get k-sports again? If not, what would you get?

yes i would def go w/ ksport because they have great customer service, and VERY quick turnaround. if you wanted to try something else but is a bit more pricey there are boss chens that lassio makes, and jics which are the most expensive, but for the price and what you get, you really cant beat ksports
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Vlasic
Ksports and d2's are pretty much the same and anything that applies to ksports applies to D2's and vise versa.
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I love how people keep complaining about people posting D2 impressions here...they are essentially the same coilover system; the main difference is the color.
Ignorance...


1. The damping is different. Ksport users generally find that the best damping settings are near the top or bottom of the adjustment range. D2 users often find it around the middle.

2. The retention mechanisms for the lower mounts on the front are different. D2 uses Allen bolts, and Ksport uses collars.

3. D2 has had more production problems than Ksport. The first couple of batches had the wrong oil in the dampers, Allen bolts have snapped, pillow ball mounts have come assembled too tightly from the factory, and camber plates have been machined incorrectly. These may not have been ridiculously frequent problems, but apparently they have been frequent enough that D2 has acknowledged them. Ksport, on the other hand, has had no similarly consistent errors.


Those differences are MORE THAN ENOUGH to make the D2s and Ksports noticeably different in terms of behavior, noise, and quality.. The only things that are the same between D2s and Ksports are the feature sets, front spring rates, and spring position/preload adjustment method.


So stop freakin' saying they're the same coilovers.
Old May 17, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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I've been browsing ksport website and noticed that they have two types of coilovers for maximas:

Ksport Kontrol Pro (CNS04-KP and CNS05-KP) MSRP: $1150

and

Ksport GT Pro Damper System (CNS04-GT and CNS05-GT) MSRP: $1610

Question, which system are we talking bout and why nobody has the second system?
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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guys i have a 2002 altima do u guys suggest that i get it for my car.. what dou guys think
Old May 17, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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I have the Kontrol Pro dampers, as does probably everyone else here. I haven' t even seen the GT Pro dampers for sale anywhere that I have looked. I bought the K-Sports from SCO in December, and they didn't mention another system. They sound like a better design, with the inverted shock and the resistance to oil leakage. The better shock probably makes a huge difference in ride quality, but they are also a lot more money.

I would like to know from those who have changed their spring rates down, did it make a big difference in the stiffness? I have put about 1500 miles on mine and I must say that they are stiff. I like a sporty ride, but I am wondering if I go to 8/6 will the ride soften up enough to not feel every single tiny imperfection in the road, because it it driving me crazy.

If it is still going to be rough, I am looking for a set of Stillen camber plates, and will be selling the K-sports or possibly trading them for the camber plates.
Old May 17, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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guys i have a 2002 altima do u guys suggest that i get it for my car.. what dou guys think
Yes. I'd suggest coil overs for any car. Even the quest.
Old May 17, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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2 questions:
1. i wasnt thinking about it when i put my coilovers in, but now that i read up on it, i see you're supposed to have the camber plates a certain way... horizontal when you're looking from the front of the car. Well mine are diagonal pointing in towards the engine... but i took it to firestone and they aligned it and set the camber with no problem... do i need to take my coils out and reposition them or is it ok the way it is?

2. Do we have to use the tophats from our original rear shocks? My friend was helping me install them and he said i didnt need them. The coilovers bolted up fine and i've been riding on them for a few weeks with no problems.. Do i need to redo this?

Thanks guys
Old May 17, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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I have a question,
I wanna get the Tein Basic Coilover Damper Kit for my maxima.
I was wandering if i could drop my car 2inch and will the ride be smooth?
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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I have a question,
I wanna get the Tein Basic Coilover Damper Kit for my maxima.
I was wandering if i could drop my car 2inch and will the ride be smooth?
Yes.

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Old May 18, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
I've been browsing ksport website and noticed that they have two types of coilovers for maximas:

Ksport Kontrol Pro (CNS04-KP and CNS05-KP) MSRP: $1150

and

Ksport GT Pro Damper System (CNS04-GT and CNS05-GT) MSRP: $1610

Question, which system are we talking bout and why nobody has the second system?
We all have the Kontrol Pro (and we got it for a DAMN sight less than that price, so don't pay it any mind).

The GT Pro is actually exactly the same as the Kontrol Pro in terms of spring rates and valving, but with inverted dampers -- better for the track and not as good for the street, according to Ksport. No one has it yet because it's still pretty new, and hasn't really been publicized very much.

The inverted damper design -- i.e. shock body on top, piston on bottom, which is the opposite of how we have it -- significantly reduces unsprung weight, since the heavy part (the body) is now bolted to the frame and the light part (the piston) is what moves with the suspension. Theoretically that should allow better handling AND ride comfort, which is why I'm kind of puzzled about why Ksport would say the GT Pro handles better but many people don't prefer it for the street... I do know that inverted dampers sustain a lot more stress just by the nature of their design, and building them up to take that stress causes extra friction, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Anyway, yeah, there it is.
Old May 18, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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which one is better, and has a smoother ride??

The
Ksport Kontrol Pro Damper Coilover System
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Tein Basic Coilover Damper Kit ???

I wanna lower the car 2 inch and have it smooth
their both around $850
Old May 18, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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Smoother ride, i would think the TEIN because the spring rate is lower. But i'll go for Ksport instead, cuz you can drop lower and 32 ways adjustable. I've seen 240SX and Mazda Protoge MP3 w/ Ksport, and they very happy w/ it, so am I!!!
Old May 18, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by armeng
which one is better, and has a smoother ride??

The
Ksport Kontrol Pro Damper Coilover System
or
Tein Basic Coilover Damper Kit ???

I wanna lower the car 2 inch and have it smooth
their both around $850
i would say tein is a little softer but ksports have much more adjustability and if your lowering your car it really isn't going to be smooth. I have ksports dropped about 3in. and i love it. A little stiff but i don't mind
Old May 19, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Here's my .02 DrKlop;

1) Are you guys happy with the maintenance? (How much time do you have to spend to keep them in a proper condition?)I only have a couple thousand miles on them, however I'd say that once you get them TIGHT they should almost be maintaniance free.

2) How long does it take to get new shocks under warranty.We'll, this has been a particular sore subject for me now. It took 2 weeks of calls and emails to K-sport and finally I had to ask Jinsu for his assistance before I finally got K-Sport to agree to send a replacemenmt shock while a removed mine and sent it back for a rebuild. Checking my old emails indicates my first email contact with K-sport was on 4/10, they finally agreed to send my a "loaner" coilover on 5/10 and here it is 5/18 and I still don't have my coilover!! I placed a call to them on the 17th only to here they are "out of the office till 5/21". So to say the least I'm not thrilled nor pleased with their customer service.

3) How much would it cost me to replace one shock after warranty expires?The cost to get a "loaner" is $150 plus $9.95 shipping so I'm assuming that would be replacement cost.

4) What's the brand of the shock absorbers?Not sure

5) If you had to do it all over, would you get k-sports again? If not, what would you get?[QUOTE][/QUOTE

I really don't know about this one. Part of me says yes, you can't beat the price and features, but another part of me is concerned that I only have a couple thousand miles on them, yet the 1 year warranty is running out, so what will happen after 10k, 20k etc. Will I have to go through this all over again? I sure as hell hope not!! If I did it over again I might just do a regular lowering spring and adjust damper int he stock set-up and not a coilover, but then again the Boss Chen's do look interesting and more robust.

I hope some of this was helpful.
Old May 19, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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I installed KSports in a 5.5 Gen today. I will not tell you who's car, but I'm sure he will post pictures soon. The installation was pretty easy and took most of the day because of the adjustments. The first thing I would like to tell you guys is that I DID NOT use the stock rubber mount with the KSports. I bolted the KSports onto the car without any additional parts. The rears fit perfect and there were no noises on the test drive. The 5th Gen with KSports rides so much cleaner than my 4th Gen. It's smoother and not as loud. The bump are not as nearly as harsh as my 4th Gen. Another thing I would like to say is that the 5th Gen wheel wells are huge. If I had a 5th Gen, it would be sitting on the ground. With the stock 17" wheel you can tuck the shyt out of them...
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Rides smoother probably because of the 5th gen's stiffer chassis.
Old May 19, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Rides smoother probably because of the 5th gen's stiffer chassis.
stiffer chassis, and independent rear suspension
Old May 20, 2006 | 04:52 AM
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5th gens have a beam that's almost identical to the 4th gens. The IRS didn't come back until the 6th gen.



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