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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Fender braces who wants some?

Hey guys,

I have been working on expanding our product line at TMS. And on the table right now is fender bracing. So far I have built some for the Supras and will be able to build some for the Maximas on thursday since I have a clutch to do on our 4th gen and can pull fenders then.

Anyway heres the pics of the Supra braces.






-Sean Truax

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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will this require any modification.welding.etc? or will it a straight bolt-on?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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And I thought I had every piece of bracing available for the 4th gen....I might be interested as long as it's bolt-on. Possible price range?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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bracing

We are going to try to make them bolt on. According to the Subaru boys, this type of bracing really helps the WRX. They sell them for over $200 on several web sites. Welding is always an issue. We plan to pull my 4th Gen in this weekend. She needs a new clutch, and the exhaust needs tweaking. We will pull off the fenders and post up photos of what we come up with. If all goes as planned, we will be looking for 2 or 3 respected org members who cars have highly modified suspension, and want to try them out and post their review here. Sean will post later about the specifics.


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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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You should make these available for 3rd Gens as well. You'd be suprised as to how many you would actually sell. The 3rd Gen guys tend to go all out, and are craving new mods for their cars. Something to consider.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Why wait?



And yes, it had crossed my mind when it was off.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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I would be will to try it out for the 5th gen and I am very interested.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way™
Why wait?



And yes, it had crossed my mind when it was off.
Oh man this weekend seems so far away. I am sure you guys will be pleased with what we come up with.

Thanks,

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Did somebody say "Supras"??? I trust it's for the MKIV, or are you talking about the MKIII's too??

Nice. You might get multiple sales from me. I look forward to future info. Price, weight, availability etc
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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You guys need to make a lower tie bar as well
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TruaxMotorsport
If all goes as planned, we will be looking for 2 or 3 respected org members who cars have highly modified suspension, and want to try them out and post their review here.
See post #3
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You guys need to make a lower tie bar as well
And one that clears Cattman Headers/y-pipe too. [That's gonna put it pretty close to the ground!]
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You guys need to make a lower tie bar as well
Mine not good enough for you?

Originally Posted by Duckman540i
You should make these available for 3rd Gens as well. You'd be suprised as to how many you would actually sell. The 3rd Gen guys tend to go all out, and are craving new mods for their cars. Something to consider.
Unfortunately I have to disagree with you. Nobody's buying 3 gen LTBs, and these are even harder to install for work required. Price will probably be about the same.

the 3 gen is just getting too long in the tooth for people to make anything for them. I would love to have a set and was considering making them for 3/4/5/6 gens a while back, but time and guinea pig cars was my limitation. nobody was willing to let me pull their fenders off to make a set. :shrug:

But if someone else makes 'em, I'll buy 'em.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Interesting....
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Mine not good enough for you?
It's great if only we could buy it!

Staying tuned for future chassis upgrades.
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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im looking foward to the finished product. also awaiting more information...
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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IIRC didn't Larrio make a prototype of fender bracing a while back? I don't know if he ever posted about it or ever made any more, but you might want to touch base with him and see what's up with them - share ideas or something?
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
And one that clears Cattman Headers/y-pipe too. [That's gonna put it pretty close to the ground!]
The Blehmco Tie bar can be made to fit with cattman headers, I should know I have it on the there now, I have about 5 inches of clearance though lol
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Fender bars were pretty common with 240s as well as the firewall area is a weak point in that chassis IIRC.

If they will make any significant difference (probably) I will be all over it pending funds.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Did somebody say "Supras"??? I trust it's for the MKIV, or are you talking about the MKIII's too??

Nice. You might get multiple sales from me. I look forward to future info. Price, weight, availability etc
So far mkiii and an mkii is coming in this weekend. We will be first offering the 4th gen and after that the 3rd gen will happen. Since we have both those available. The fifth gen might take a few extra days to happen but will happen. And price is being discussed right now. And let me just say it will not be a wallet breaker.

-Sean
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Fender bars were pretty common with 240s as well as the firewall area is a weak point in that chassis IIRC.
dang! you beat me to it . But I do think that this would benefit the 4th gen chassis as well... since its so much of a tin-can frame as it is, any lil bit of reinforcement helps. Especially bracing the fenders. All that industrial epoxy holding the car together is no good for the sorts of driving some of us put the Max through.

Im very much be interested in these!
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Very interested, did you get my email Sean?
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Hm....very interesting.
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After a few more years TMS will probably be offering a damn exoskeleton for the 4th gen.
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
After a few more years TMS will probably be offering a damn exoskeleton for the 4th gen.
LOL!
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gtr_rider
Very interested, did you get my email Sean?
No I did not. Sorry. My personal email is sean.truax@gmail.com I check frequently.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
After a few more years TMS will probably be offering a damn exoskeleton for the 4th gen.
Heck, let's tube frame the silly thing from the start and throw the body panels on it.
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Heck, let's tube frame the silly thing from the start and throw the body panels on it.
ya might as well ...
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Just saw this:

Originally Posted by TruaxMotorsport
we will be looking for 2 or 3 respected org members who cars have highly modified suspension, and want to try them out and post their review here.
I'm your man.

One of your men.

No homo.

Seriously I'd be stoked to be one of the first to try these out. I still need to shorten the Konis up front but I should be able to give a decent review when I do so.
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I can depending on my funds to buy these
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I will buy the 3rd gen setup instantly when it is made.
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I would be interested in these as well. Im also a road course/track guy so I can give a honest review if I get to test them out.



Some bling ones from SPL for the 300ZX. They do more than a FSTB and don't clutter up the engine bay area. Only thing is that they are known for dialing in more understeer...

Also I wonder if having only one bolt as opposed to two on the door hinge part would have any effect on these?

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Originally Posted by TruaxMotorsport
So far mkiii and an mkii is coming in this weekend. We will be first offering the 4th gen and after that the 3rd gen will happen. Since we have both those available. The fifth gen might take a few extra days to happen but will happen. And price is being discussed right now. And let me just say it will not be a wallet breaker.

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do you need a 5th gen to work on.
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
do you need a 5th gen to work on.
Yes we do at this time. Email us at truaxmotorsports@gmail.com and we can work something out.

-Sean
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Originally Posted by TruaxMotorsport
Yes we do at this time. Email us at truaxmotorsports@gmail.com and we can work something out.

-Sean
e-mail sent.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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The answer to the OP is: every single Maxima owner with a brain.

The structural sections between the strut towers and the firewall are among the weakest points on the car. Any bracing for them should be right on top of everyone's list for a LOT of reasons.

If these things do add understeer, it should be dialed out through suspension parts (springs, dampers, sway bars, etc.) or tire pressures. Never ever ever EVER forgo a chassis stiffening mod just because it'll affect your handling balance slightly. Chassis stiffness has too many benefits (stability, responsiveness, etc.) that are more than worth a slight reduction in *****-out front grip.
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I wonder how well those braces work when it's so short? And only uses the 12mm door/fender bolts?
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I wonder how well those braces work when it's so short? And only uses the 12mm door/fender bolts?
That is a question you might want to ask the S chassis crowd.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I wonder how well those braces work when it's so short? And only uses the 12mm door/fender bolts?
anything's better than nothing.

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