You'll probably need an ECU/Intake manifold to finish it off.

 

id say vasilly. 3.5 in a 4th gen...thats what, low 14s stock, easily? he jsut needs some mods and it would obtainable.

 

Well if you use the occasion to put headers, flywheel an all on, plus lightweight 15" wheels and the rest of the N/A mods+ECU... mid 13s, street tires perhaps? I mean Tilley got 13.87 on 16" even with the restrictive 3.0 heads/manifold(US), no ecu...

 

Mid 13's with vasilys engine modded is a joke i ran 13.82 with full 3.0.that car in a 4th gen stock 13.4 or less or else its a joke

 

Slow down here. When he gets an 8000 rpm redline he'll beat you, don't worry, I was just being conservative. I think with the right mods, a 3.5-powered 4th gen will eventually be able to break 12's NA on slicks. But not right away. You can't do everything at the same time, his 3.5 isn't fully modded like your 3.0. Give him the same time you had to mod yours.

 

I already have a 12 second NA car. All I have to do now is get to the track and prove it. But I am getting bombarded right now with Maxima work so the schedule keeps getting pushed back.

 

Fully modded are you joking ,i'am far from fully modded.
And id like to see his 3.5 go to 8000 boom

 

8000???

 

I believe a 3.5 in a 4th gen is faster than a 3.0 in a 4th gen but the times you guys throw out that he should run They are a joke ,vasily shouldnt have to heavely modifiy his 3.5 in order to beat my times.
SR20DEN car is not modded that much and runs a 13.1 @ 107 thats a insane trap also. And keep in mind its in a 5th gen,so vlastic should be much faster if not it was a waste

 

thats exactly what i just said. 3.5 in a 4th gen is already fast.

 

That's my point. You have "only" a 3.0, but he can't go over 6600 right now, not 8000 like yours. I mean, how many guys other than you have taken their 3.0 up to 8000? None that I know of.

True, but he was lucky enough to get an entire car for 1550$. I couldn't find a smashed 2002+ Altima/Maxima for less than 6800$. JapMax couldn't find anything lower than 4000$ and Tilley didn't bother. The lack of variable Timing Control without the 5.5gen ECU will rob some power right there for anybody else doing this swap without going through the trouble of rewiring the entire car. So if he can't drive, we're not going to see a 3.5 powered 4th gen hitting 107+ trap speeds anytime soon. Also I don't think he has aftermarket headers/cat/catback and all.

As for SR20DEN, yes he is running 13.19 on slicks, and yes, Neal was running 13.43 before some ****head smashed his car, but how many NA maximas are this fast? We don't know whether or not he's a good driver, at what elevation he's at, if he has a bad Knock Sensor, how ****ty his tires are, if he knows how to get a good launch ... ect. ect. ect.

 

I know what we do know.. we don't have any slips yet so this is all speculation.

 

yes but you may not know but many 3.5 owners stock or near stock can run low 14's or better so ,thats what i'am talking about .

 

Yeah, it's in the 1/4 mile section; "best stock; 14.3-14.1 (a bunch)".

 

Damn, I had a pair of those, I gavem to my friend before i came to china, they were light old school rims too!!!, Shiet, I woulda happily donated them to you!

 

why does SR need to rev to 8000 rpm. Kirsmax can't have any usable power that higfh in the rpm range with the mods he has.

 

actually nobody said sr has to rev to 8000rpm

But you guys forget one this weight determines usable power ,how does a civic with 156peak hp run 12.6 ? Trust me i use past 7500 in first and it pulls me. But i must say second is only good for 7600.

 

Yes, but what about peak power and the powercurve? By shifting way late (ie 7500rpms+), you're overshooting your powerband. Optimal shift points are calculated by using ending curve torque/rpm and entry torque/rpm. The goal is to land each successive shift with more torque than you ended with in the last gear. Usually this means taking 1st gear 600-800rpms higher than peak power, 2nd gear at around 500-700rpms higher than peak, 3rd gear to 200-400rpms higher than peak, and 4th gear to slightly above peak. This is all dependant on the shape of power curve. The VI-equipped VQs sit on the higher end of the spectrum since the power curve is so long which is a rarity in a lot of engines. The MEVI peaks at 6200-6300rpms and the DE-K peaks at 6300-6400rpms.

 

Coming soon full 3.5 run off 3.0 ecu

 

Don't foget to use the same dyno you used for 3.5/3.0 hybrid so we can the difference and if the 1.2:1 drop in comp ratio made a significant difference with the higher flowing heads.

 

Krismax: valve float doesnt bother you does it?

 

I never floated a valve that high and if i was than the car reved there 1000 times in 8 months with 200,000 + miles and didnt care it was valve floating

 

ballsy, I respect that.

 

Thanks to the 31 people who voted for me. The task is complete and this competition is over. Now the 12.50 competition begins.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=377044

 

I voted SR20DEN, oops I win.

 

Same here [/shameless plug] Although I gave some thought to choosing Tilley instead.


It's gonna take a while for someone to break 11.99 N/A

 

well he is the first in the 12's a great feat.

But now i can concentrate on my 11 second goal

 

Start gutting that interior.

Now first I have to break 14s
Then 13s
And finally 12s

By the time I get there you guys will probably be in the 9s *shakes fist*

 

A maxima in the 9's... um... yeah

 

Notice the extremely obvious heavy sarcasm.

 

hey a max could be in the 9's if someone felt like spending enough money on it. i'm sure if we get krismax or sr to run low 12 then maybe go for some boost i dont see y low 10's wont be possible. but i dunno.

 

Guys, does anyone remember a certain Max clip of a beige? 4th gen that had some wild engine/cam work done IIRC. The small clip was of it in a store parking lot revving like crazy, sounded like a built engine w/open headers or something almost. Then the Max pulls out into traffic and takes off down the street......? I can't find the vid on my comp right now but was wondering what time that fellow ran...13's???

Just curious if anyone remembered what I'm talking about...

Jeremy

 

Someone should close this poll. ***** are coming in here voting after the fact.

 

12's in an all motor Maxima yeah right Im calling

 

Im calling on the whole calling thing

 

That was Iron Lung with his car and camera work was by me

 

OK there Uncle Sprinty.

 

Congrats on the feat there SR20...when I used to run my Altima ('93) the fastest guy on the Altima forum had a bolt on '95 w/a 75shot and slicks...he ran a 13.1 and the fastest NA was a 13.9...Other than turboed Altimas, those were the fastest recorded Altys I think..

BTW, a Max member spread the word about the 12.85 run over at Altimas.net...the vast majority was very impressed and supportive...only a few of the '02+ Altima owners got a Napoleon complex...

Jeremy

 

If we get that from fellow Nissan guys, I have a hard time figuring out how anyone would ever convince an f-body/mustang owner that N/A maximas are running 12s...

 

who really cares what rustang owners think? they were dumb enough to buy mustangs werent they?