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Old May 5, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Another 3.5 up and running

Well today after some ground problems Krismax's car is up and running.
Old May 5, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Test drive impressions? At his weight it must pull like there's no tomorrow

What were those ground problems? Today I put the 4th gen wiring harness on the 3.5 and the injector plugs dont fit. I'm gonna cut the injector plugs off the 2002 wiring harness and use them on the 02 injectors to plug to the 95 harness.
Old May 5, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Test drive impressions? At his weight it must pull like there's no tomorrow

What were those ground problems? Today I put the 4th gen wiring harness on the 3.5 and the injector plugs dont fit. I'm gonna cut the injector plugs off the 2002 wiring harness and use them on the 02 injectors to plug to the 95 harness.
ECU harness ground in front of IM was in a poor location. it was grounded too fuel rail since the 00VI doesnt have the tab too ground too.
Old May 5, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Let the fun begin. Any track/dyno events planned? Congrats ... man I wish you dudes weren't so far away .. I'd get this done in a heart beat!! Phuk it maybe I should try it anyway ..
Old May 5, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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damn homie....its about time is this a full 3.5 or hybrid? I assume it has the 00VI? And did you get those Alti headers to fit? I look forward to coming back up to your shop
Old May 5, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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full 3.5 but with 00vi intake manifold. Headers wouldnt work so im gonna mod a crossmember for mine so i can make em work.
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How was the intall of the IM ... forgive me if this has been discussed as I though it had only been used with 3.0 heads/lower IM.
Old May 5, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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dam i cant wait to drive it ,tilley knows his stuff .

I also have a long 800 mile ACT clutch brake in so i wont know how it feels for a while at least
Old May 5, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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That would suck ***** waiting on the clutch to be happy ... same thing happens with a 5spd sswap .. only this is just madness.
Old May 5, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
How was the intall of the IM ... forgive me if this has been discussed as I though it had only been used with 3.0 heads/lower IM.
I would LOVE to know this as well.
Old May 5, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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My clutch is new as well. It's gonna be granny driving time for a few weeks. At least I'll get used to the car progressively...
Old May 5, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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I would LOVE to know this as well.
the inatke manifold installs just like a 3.0 install no diff i have no egr so thats not in the way. its deks lower with rails and injectors and dek upper.
I ported the dek lower so big that it is bigger than the 3.5 intake ports.
Old May 5, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Expect another 3.5 4th gen next week.
Old May 5, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Nismo, LMK when you plan to turn the car over for the first time...I wanna be there.
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Originally Posted by krismax
the inatke manifold installs just like a 3.0 install no diff i have no egr so thats not in the way. its deks lower with rails and injectors and dek upper.
I ported the dek lower so big that it is bigger than the 3.5 intake ports.
Wow hold up! Kris you mean to say that the DEK lower IM will bolt up to the 3.5 heads, and thus the rest of the 00VI manifold would just bolt up with no issues? There was no custom work and it just bolted up? OMG OMG OMG could it be?
Old May 5, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
Wow hold up! Kris you mean to say that the DEK lower IM will bolt up to the 3.5 heads, and thus the rest of the 00VI manifold would just bolt up with no issues? There was no custom work and it just bolted up? OMG OMG OMG could it be?
Yeah Rob what's the deal with the 00VI?
Old May 5, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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Yeah Rob what's the deal with the 00VI?
The DE-K lower has to be port matched to the 3.5 heads.


THT: I was working on the car tonight, and ran into a few small issues. Nothing major, but it will set me back a few days, but i'll let u know when I plan to start it.

Tilleys99: One question, Is it okay to leave the CVTC solenoid off like this?

The reason I ask is because the rear one seems to get in the way with how I want to mount my IACV..
Old May 5, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
The DE-K lower has to be port matched to the 3.5 heads.
Has there been any dyno testing of the de-k vs the 3.5 mani yet?
Old May 6, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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[QUOTE=Nismo3112]The DE-K lower has to be port matched to the 3.5 heads.
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OK, yes that would have been required anyways since they are of different shapes, no problem for my dremel . But here's the thing, does the 2k lower intake manifold BOLT up to the 3.5 heads?
That's the money question!
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Some people around here dont pay attention too anything lmao.

I ran a 13.32 with a 3.5 with 00vi on it. It bolts on and just needs minor mods too work. It needs port matched though.

You either need a block off for the cvtc or you need it there casue it has oil pressure there (it would be a good source for oil for a turbo ).
Old May 6, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Tilleys99: One question, Is it okay to leave the CVTC solenoid off like this?

The reason I ask is because the rear one seems to get in the way with how I want to mount my IACV..
In that pic i actually threaded the holes and plugged it with a bolt.
Old May 6, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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any pics you guys? more and more people join the vq35 4th gen club.
Old May 9, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Sick...can't wait to see this beast dyno.

ARP rod bolts, VK valves, stock VQ35 cams, and the 8000rpm limiter...
Old May 9, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Sick...can't wait to see this beast dyno.

ARP rod bolts, VK valves, stock VQ35 cams, and the 8000rpm limiter...
sorry alex ,i gave a intake and a exhaust valve to tilley for testing .I only had one of each and none are in my car

but it does have the arp rod bolts ,stock vq 35 cams and a 8000rev limit which that engine prob wont see but i do have the jwt 350z valve springs thanks to you
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I doubt even the 00 VI is good for 8000 rpm...
Old May 9, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
I doubt even the 00 VI is good for 8000 rpm...
you would think that but i hit the 8000 fuel cut many times and in the 1/4 i always took first to atleast 7800+, second to 7500-7600 and it always gave me a high 13 doing that.

My 3.5 will def be seeing 7500+
Old May 9, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Damn....

Originally Posted by krismax
sorry alex ,i gave a intake and a exhaust valve to tilley for testing .I only had one of each and none are in my car

but it does have the arp rod bolts ,stock vq 35 cams and a 8000rev limit which that engine prob wont see
...with stock VQ35 cams/valves, it will be interesting to see if/where you float.
....but i do have the jwt 350z valve springs thanks to you
Old May 9, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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My point is that on a VQ35 you're going to have to pull something amazing to make 8000 worth it. Not saying you can't rev to 8000, just saying it's not worth it. Yeah it's cool to be able to brag about going to 8k, but I think Tilley's 7300 fuel cut is much more reasonable IMO...
Old May 9, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
My point is that on a VQ35 you're going to have to pull something amazing to make 8000 worth it. Not saying you can't rev to 8000, just saying it's not worth it. Yeah it's cool to be able to brag about going to 8k, but I think Tilley's 7300 fuel cut is much more reasonable IMO...
i ride with tilley in his car sometimes and his fuel cut isnt 7300 ive watched him go over 7500rpm ....and also his fuel cut is 8000rpm to ..............
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Ah... for some reason I always thought it was 7300.
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This recent swap uses the full VQ35 setup? or has the VQ30 parts installed in it like the others?

Was just watching Monster Garage. The "Honey Bee" episode. They put a 2004 350Z engine in a 1976 Datsun 210. They had a guy, Naoto Negishi, who set up a ECU to run the engine... But they give no details on what is was, or how he did it. Google for the guy turns up nothing.

I'd love to know how he did it.. Maybe it is eaiser than putting all of the 3.0L parts on the 3.5L engine?
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Maybe he's running an OBDI. 4th gen wiring is the simplest wiring harness to be able to run a VQ35 so maybe he used that...
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This recent swap uses the full VQ35 setup? or has the VQ30 parts installed in it like the others?

Was just watching Monster Garage. The "Honey Bee" episode. They put a 2004 350Z engine in a 1976 Datsun 210. They had a guy, Naoto Negishi, who set up a ECU to run the engine... But they give no details on what is was, or how he did it. Google for the guy turns up nothing.

I'd love to know how he did it.. Maybe it is eaiser than putting all of the 3.0L parts on the 3.5L engine?

yeah i saw that episode. i would liek to know more also.
Old May 9, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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searching around it seems that Naoto Negishi works for http://www.dynamicautosports.com/. You could give them a call and find out if its the same person or not. I would but i didnt see that episode.


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I called, He has not worked there in 2 yrs.

They said he may work for "Blast Racing" now. Cant find a number for them.
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Found this:

http://www.jtuned.com/content/templa...id=34&zoneid=2

Says:

As many of you know, the new G comes with a “drive by wire” throttle system which makes it quite difficult to tune due to the computer having so much control. Blast ditched the stock unit in favor of a mechanical throttle body and custom plumbed throttle cable. Fuel duties are handled by 600cc injectors and a Bosch fuel pump controlled in unison by the famed HKS FCON VPRO fuel management system.
I don't see a date on the article.


Also found this:

http://socalrsxforums.com/forums/sho...288#post176288

Blast Racing Gardena
They are right next to Motorex.
Naoto is the shop manager there he is the guy who basically built my car for me. I highly recommend him. His Boss is from what I hear the #5 top tuner in Japan. They are not cheap!!
Still no phone number though.
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Chris,

It's too late now, but did you consider swapping in a 2005 Track/Anniversary 7100rpm oil pump for a bit safer life at 7000+rpm?

Originally Posted by krismax
you would think that but i hit the 8000 fuel cut many times and in the 1/4 i always took first to atleast 7800+, second to 7500-7600 and it always gave me a high 13 doing that.

My 3.5 will def be seeing 7500+
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Originally Posted by MarcL
This recent swap uses the full VQ35 setup? or has the VQ30 parts installed in it like the others?

Was just watching Monster Garage. The "Honey Bee" episode. They put a 2004 350Z engine in a 1976 Datsun 210. They had a guy, Naoto Negishi, who set up a ECU to run the engine... But they give no details on what is was, or how he did it. Google for the guy turns up nothing.

I'd love to know how he did it.. Maybe it is eaiser than putting all of the 3.0L parts on the 3.5L engine?
i dont know what stand a lone they used but they switched to cable driven throttle.
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i dont know what stand a lone they used but they switched to cable driven throttle.
I am using the stock ECU, nothing else
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The used an HKS unit VPRO or CONV, I'm not sure.

One of those has a DBW ability, but you're 100% sure they converted to cable?

Originally Posted by spanishrice
i dont know what stand a lone they used but they switched to cable driven throttle.



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