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Old 07-27-2005, 08:37 AM
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confirming understanding of 3.5 swap

I have read through a plethora of posts regarding the 3.5 conversion and I want to make sure I understand some things. It is not my intention to repost questions already asked so please understand it's simply a "getting my ducks in a row" post.

Now, if I'm on the right page here, the VQ35 is pretty much a direct plug-n-play drop with some moderate prep work.

I think I understand that I need to swap the timing components from the 30 to the 35, drill for dowel pin in the cams (is it on all 4 cams or just one?), put spacers in for the sprockets on the cams & seal off a coolant outlet. It is a little foggy from piecing posts together but I also transplant the 30 sensonrs over to the 35 correct? There seems to be varying opinion on using the 30 CPS on the 35.

It appears that the 5spd im using now will be a direct bolt on to the 35 so that's all good I'm guessing.

Does that pretty much cover it? I want to use the same ecu & wiring harness so it is my understanding that this is the best way to accomplish it.

Now..feel free to school me where I'm wrong.
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that all sounds about right. if you want to talk to someone about it, call tilleys shop 717-867-0381 and he can let you know if i am wrong
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Originally Posted by emmas97
that all sounds about right. if you want to talk to someone about it, call tilleys shop 717-867-0381 and he can let you know if i am wrong

MUCHO Thank you's emmas97 for the referrall. I just had a great talk with Tilley regarding this swap. I was very impressed that T took time out of his day to really try to help me get on the right course. It's guys like that that make this forum ROCK!

I'll be sending T my 3.5 intake cams for drilling. I'm pretty sure I'll be upgrading to ARP rod bolts as suggested to. Might as well do it while her legs are spread. hehehehe

The items he added to do beyond my post above was that the radiator hose on the passenger side of the engine (close to the belts) has to be cut back just a bit to make it fit. Also the timing chain is almost fool proof and color coded. Yellow to the crank and the blue marks to the cams.

I can't wait for winter now woot!!
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:19 AM
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so only the intake cams need to be drilled?
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so only the intake cams need to be drilled?
yeah its something like the exhaust ones still line up or something...
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Ya..that's what Tilley said....2 intake cams need to be drilled for the dowel.
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:35 PM
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so if you do the 3.5 swap, for your exhaust do you need a different headers/ypipe? or just the 3.5 headers with 3.0 y pipe?
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I'm pretty sure the exhaust manifolds are the same between the two but I'm by know means the one that knows. You can ask me again in about 4 months

Really the last grey area I have is how to convert the 2k2 TB to drive by wire to drive by cable. Hopefully Tilley or someone will come in and explain the procedure a little bit better or let us know if someone is willing to sell a modified 2k2 TB for us.
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:40 PM
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I've read that the 3.0 header will fit but an aftermarket header would be best in order to see some very lovely gains. So if thats true then 3.0 headers and 3.0 y-pipe.
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Originally Posted by MaxGordon7
so if you do the 3.5 swap, for your exhaust do you need a different headers/ypipe? or just the 3.5 headers with 3.0 y pipe?

I think they all should fit, but the headers are supposed to give much more significant gains with the 3.5 than just the 3.0.
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The 3.0 headers bolt up to the VQ35. But as it has been said, aftermarket headers would be a great addition, especially since the engine is out of the car, simplifying installation.
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Old 07-28-2005, 06:34 AM
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aftermarket headers are good, just watch the brand that you buy. mine are OBX and when they made them, they must have forgotten to test fit them in an engine bay, because the motor mount had to be modified for them to fit... and as far as the TB, you could always ship one to tilley and have him do it. otherwise, when the time comes to do that, you could call him and have him walk you through it.
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:55 AM
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Ya...I've pretty much decided to just buy the engine from Tilley "ready to drop" so I have every confidence that it will "be all that it can be"
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:58 AM
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Especially when just getting the crank pulley off was a challenge. j/k

How much for a ready prepped engine?

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Ya...I've pretty much decided to just buy the engine from Tilley "ready to drop" so I have every confidence that it will "be all that it can be"
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:01 AM
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hehehehe that fuggin thing is coming off anyways. I gotta have those parts readily available for peeps. Just under 2K is what he quoted me but I'll let you know in PM later. He may or may not want the specifics advertised ya know? That's shipped to my door ready to drop.
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Get some aftermarket headers in the process, you won't regret it. I have Cattman headers and the sound is There really is a sound difference between the Vq30 and Vq35.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Get some aftermarket headers in the process, you won't regret it. I have Cattman headers and the sound is There really is a sound difference between the Vq30 and Vq35.
the difference is that vq35's have ***** lol
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I had no idea Tilley makes ready to drop in Vq35s . . . music to my ears.
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That would save you guys the whole timing chain/cam hassle. It's a pretty big pain in the @ss when you have to do it alone and have never seen the inside of an engine before.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:53 AM
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For the VQ35 prep that Tilly does, will he need the whole engine or just the timing chain/cams to modify?
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Hitmanforprez
For the VQ35 prep that Tilly does, will he need the whole engine or just the timing chain/cams to modify?
if he has the parts he needs, he doesnt need the whole motor, and of course, he can always just send along the list of what needs to be removed from the stock motor
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
I had no idea Tilley makes ready to drop in Vq35s . . . music to my ears.
Same here as well. This is good news, because I plan on doing this, hopefully winter time.
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Sounds like Tilley is gonna be quite busy soon I don't know about how he will do it for "everyone" but he told me not to worry about sending him ANYTHING. Said he has plenty of vq30 stuff layin around to move over to a VQ35. So that means I'll have two extra sets of VQ30 timing comps if/when anyone needs em.
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this sounds like a very promising future for alot of 4th genners out there...

I may just hop on the bandwagon pretty soon myself...4th gens are cheap to pick up
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Has anyone read/found out/heard what the Base Fuel Pressure is supposed to be set to on the FPR for this conversion?
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:42 PM
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when i went to reply i thought i knew the answer, but now im not sure if the number in my head is what its supposed to be, or what mine was before tilley fixed it. 35 or 60 something i think.....







sorry, i know that wasnt very helpful
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Actually Stephen replied to me in another thread. He set BFP to 53psi.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Max1man
Actually Stephen replied to me in another thread. He set BFP to 53psi.
haha then it must have been that mine was set at 35 and tilley had to change it cause at least i wasnt too far off with the 60 lol
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hehehehe

Hey is this the SARD FPR I'm looking for? Does it really matter if its 6AN or 8AN since I'm just tee'ing into the fuel hose? (flow wise?)

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Have you looked into the Nismo FPR? The price isn't bad at all.

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...=22670-RR580US
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not a bad looking unit and i likes the price for sure
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This looks like a really good deal. I've always wanted a 5th gen but I don't need a 3200lb car and a 6speed. A 4th gen is perfect. We can do the VQ35 swap and still have a 3000lb car.

The main question I have is I live in California, will the VQ35 swap have all the components where I can pass smog with no cel?
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Originally Posted by Max1man
not a bad looking unit and i likes the price for sure
Looks like because of the outlet fitting you won't really be able to use it. This is the one that Stephen Max used on Dubbya's car for the 3.5 swap.

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...=22670-RR710US
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it looks like I am not going to be able to buy this engine right now. It's already got a deposit down on it and is being built. If anyone is interested, pm me. $1800 ready to drop with 2k2 PF TB modified for drive by cable. I'd need $900 down and the balance prior to ship (have to finish paying Tilley).
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Holy old threads Batman Sorry for the resurrection but I have a question for the masses as I'm going to be keeping this engine after all.

Is there anyone close to Tilley's shop that could go take some digital pictures of the new engine for me? His digital is broken and I would really really really like to have some pics for various media locations. I can probably pay someone for the gas they use to get there and back. Can anyone help?
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Originally Posted by Max1man
Holy old threads Batman Sorry for the resurrection but I have a question for the masses as I'm going to be keeping this engine after all.

Is there anyone close to Tilley's shop that could go take some digital pictures of the new engine for me? His digital is broken and I would really really really like to have some pics for various media locations. I can probably pay someone for the gas they use to get there and back. Can anyone help?
Did ya try posting this in the regionals? Might get more play there with the local PA boys....
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good idea..thanks much
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sorry i know this isnt the place for the question, but what numbers are we looking at seeing in the 1/4 mile with this engine setup? Does anyone have a list of all the upgrades mardigras when he hit 11.4 ? was it all motor? And Tilly can you contact me, if you do have any ready to go plug & play motors. Thanks
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why not call him? I dont think he posts on here too often.
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