Kinetix IM for FWD VQs
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Regardless of the costs at this point, I'd still like to see dynos of the stock Z33 IMs and this Kinetix IM on VQ35s.
Now having said that, even if the Kinetix does gain more, it probably still won't justify the $750, as posted above.
Now having said that, even if the Kinetix does gain more, it probably still won't justify the $750, as posted above.
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UPDATE from the test Alti owner... apparently dynos have been done and results sent to Kinetix (so no numbers released to us yet):
"It did not meet the expectations, mainly because it makes power to high in the RPM range. There should be a redesign ready for testing next week."
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...&postcount=116
Guess it'll be another year of waiting for this "redesign".... surprise surprise huh?
"It did not meet the expectations, mainly because it makes power to high in the RPM range. There should be a redesign ready for testing next week."
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...&postcount=116
Guess it'll be another year of waiting for this "redesign".... surprise surprise huh?
#56
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
UPDATE from the test Alti owner... apparently dynos have been done and results sent to Kinetix (so no numbers released to us yet):
"It did not meet the expectations, mainly because it makes power to high in the RPM range. There should be a redesign ready for testing next week."
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...&postcount=116
Guess it'll be another year of waiting for this "redesign".... surprise surprise huh?
"It did not meet the expectations, mainly because it makes power to high in the RPM range. There should be a redesign ready for testing next week."
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...&postcount=116
Guess it'll be another year of waiting for this "redesign".... surprise surprise huh?
So do they scrap this manifold or will they sell it for a filthy cheap price?
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
So do they scrap this manifold or will they sell it for a filthy cheap price?
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Update from yesterday's dyno by another Alti tester:
"I just got home from getting my car dyno'd; results not good; "I also didn't meet expectations", lets just say it wasn't positive; Kinetix will re-design high flow SSV IM (my version). Back to the drawing board."
Word on the street is that they're going back to a smaller chamber design with longer runners, which to me, seems like a regression towards the stock IM design.
I wish they would post the graphs so that people could see what is really so "bad". Either way, the plans for the redesign don't even sound very good so I guess its back to waiting for those Z33 IM dynos or Allen's IM if that comes through.
"I just got home from getting my car dyno'd; results not good; "I also didn't meet expectations", lets just say it wasn't positive; Kinetix will re-design high flow SSV IM (my version). Back to the drawing board."
Word on the street is that they're going back to a smaller chamber design with longer runners, which to me, seems like a regression towards the stock IM design.
I wish they would post the graphs so that people could see what is really so "bad". Either way, the plans for the redesign don't even sound very good so I guess its back to waiting for those Z33 IM dynos or Allen's IM if that comes through.
#59
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Update from yesterday's dyno by another Alti tester:
"I just got home from getting my car dyno'd; results not good; "I also didn't meet expectations", lets just say it wasn't positive; Kinetix will re-design high flow SSV IM (my version). Back to the drawing board."
Word on the street is that they're going back to a smaller chamber design with longer runners, which to me, seems like a regression towards the stock IM design.
I wish they would post the graphs so that people could see what is really so "bad". Either way, the plans for the redesign don't even sound very good so I guess its back to waiting for those Z33 IM dynos or Allen's IM if that comes through.
"I just got home from getting my car dyno'd; results not good; "I also didn't meet expectations", lets just say it wasn't positive; Kinetix will re-design high flow SSV IM (my version). Back to the drawing board."
Word on the street is that they're going back to a smaller chamber design with longer runners, which to me, seems like a regression towards the stock IM design.
I wish they would post the graphs so that people could see what is really so "bad". Either way, the plans for the redesign don't even sound very good so I guess its back to waiting for those Z33 IM dynos or Allen's IM if that comes through.
#60
screw that, just get a 00 VI for the vq30 and keep it stock on the vq35 for now. There are many other things that can make u go faster. How about port polishing and port matching from the IM to the Heads. With a good ecu we should have crazy nice power. If still not enough, well then you can always use a SC or a turbo. These are still street cars and the old shcool mechanical ways still work, remember that. Just mix them with technology
#61
That intake manifold looks real nice. I'm sure alot of show cars that dont care to much about gains would buy it for that price. Anyway I'm learning alot about the different IM's for the vq's. I think I will be getting a 00VI soon.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Just give up on Kinetix. If they can't design a manifold for the 350Z that will give equal HP as the Motordyne Spacer, they sure as heck won't design one for the FWD that will give any decent gains.
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maybe they should put some spinners to match the gangsta chrome on the wheels.
This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.
I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5
Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's
People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.
I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5
Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's
People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
maybe they should put some spinners to match the gangsta chrome on the wheels.
This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.
I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5
Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's
People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.
I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5
Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's
People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
maybe they should put some spinners to match the gangsta chrome on the wheels.
This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.
I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5
Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's
People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.
I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5
Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's
People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
the only way to get a different IM for the vq35 is either
a)350z set up
b)stick with the oem unit
kinetix first of all will cost alot and second of all the gains the IM produces. They wont even show the dyno graphs and I am assuming that the gains are worse then the stock FWD IM.
#68
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
this is what you call a pointless post.
the only way to get a different IM for the vq35 is either
a)350z set up
b)stick with the oem unit
kinetix first of all will cost alot and second of all the gains the IM produces. They wont even show the dyno graphs and I am assuming that the gains are worse then the stock FWD IM.
the only way to get a different IM for the vq35 is either
a)350z set up
b)stick with the oem unit
kinetix first of all will cost alot and second of all the gains the IM produces. They wont even show the dyno graphs and I am assuming that the gains are worse then the stock FWD IM.
It's not pointless, ne pezdi.
Sticking with the oem unti is free and buying a 350z setup and modding it is still cheaper and gives some power.
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
They should of spent more time designing the IM than bling it out.
#74
Originally Posted by sciff5
I always thought it was the heads on the VQ35 that were restrictive as hell, other than the headers.
Originally Posted by sciff5
But what are the chances of getting aftermarket heads made? Prob slim to none.
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For those who care:
Dynos from FWD Kinetix
Apparently, that was the middle run of the 3 runs.
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=218613
Dynos from FWD Kinetix
Apparently, that was the middle run of the 3 runs.
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=218613