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Old 03-21-2006 | 07:45 PM
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but it still wouldn't completely justify the $750 cost...
I don't think much of anything would.
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Regardless of the costs at this point, I'd still like to see dynos of the stock Z33 IMs and this Kinetix IM on VQ35s.

Now having said that, even if the Kinetix does gain more, it probably still won't justify the $750, as posted above.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
i got mine for 180 shipped from my350z.com
All 3 pieces? Just curious....
Old 03-21-2006 | 08:42 PM
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All 3 pieces? Just curious....
i guess 350z IMs aren't as expensive as we thought...
Old 03-21-2006 | 09:27 PM
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buying used parts seems to be really cheap. check out the price for a new z IM
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buying used parts seems to be really cheap. check out the price for a new z IM
how much!?!?!
Old 03-22-2006 | 07:04 AM
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All 3 pieces? Just curious....
yes, all 3 pieces and all gaskets/bolts.
Old 03-22-2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tavarish
yes, all 3 pieces and all gaskets/bolts.
I just found an upper for $40...
Old 03-22-2006 | 12:26 PM
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i'd say the lower (collector) manifold is the hardest to find.
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how about the middle?
Old 03-22-2006 | 03:10 PM
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Just wondering...does the CF hoods have the underside bracing like the OEM?
Old 03-22-2006 | 05:38 PM
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how about the middle?
just search on my350z.com and g35driver.com or even ebay. i got my plenum from ebay.

i dont know if the cf hood has bracing underneath. maybe somebody could tell us that has a cf hood.
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VIS CF hood baby...look for the authenticity badge when you buy your CF hoods...make sure its a real VIS!

vsamoylov- any pics of the o2 sensors? i still don't believe u until u show me
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how much!?!?!
i dont know, thats why you should check it out

probly upwards of $500
Old 03-23-2006 | 07:51 PM
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UPDATE from the test Alti owner... apparently dynos have been done and results sent to Kinetix (so no numbers released to us yet):

"It did not meet the expectations, mainly because it makes power to high in the RPM range. There should be a redesign ready for testing next week."

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...&postcount=116


Guess it'll be another year of waiting for this "redesign".... surprise surprise huh?
Old 03-23-2006 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
UPDATE from the test Alti owner... apparently dynos have been done and results sent to Kinetix (so no numbers released to us yet):

"It did not meet the expectations, mainly because it makes power to high in the RPM range. There should be a redesign ready for testing next week."

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...&postcount=116


Guess it'll be another year of waiting for this "redesign".... surprise surprise huh?
That is what I predicted in the first place. For $750 it had better put 10-15 whp across the entire RPM range.


So do they scrap this manifold or will they sell it for a filthy cheap price?
Old 03-23-2006 | 08:03 PM
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So do they scrap this manifold or will they sell it for a filthy cheap price?
Good point, but even if they knocked off a good amt, it still may not be as cheap as a custom Z33 upper.
Old 03-30-2006 | 07:15 AM
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Update from yesterday's dyno by another Alti tester:

"I just got home from getting my car dyno'd; results not good; "I also didn't meet expectations", lets just say it wasn't positive; Kinetix will re-design high flow SSV IM (my version). Back to the drawing board."

Word on the street is that they're going back to a smaller chamber design with longer runners, which to me, seems like a regression towards the stock IM design.

I wish they would post the graphs so that people could see what is really so "bad". Either way, the plans for the redesign don't even sound very good so I guess its back to waiting for those Z33 IM dynos or Allen's IM if that comes through.
Old 03-30-2006 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Update from yesterday's dyno by another Alti tester:

"I just got home from getting my car dyno'd; results not good; "I also didn't meet expectations", lets just say it wasn't positive; Kinetix will re-design high flow SSV IM (my version). Back to the drawing board."

Word on the street is that they're going back to a smaller chamber design with longer runners, which to me, seems like a regression towards the stock IM design.

I wish they would post the graphs so that people could see what is really so "bad". Either way, the plans for the redesign don't even sound very good so I guess its back to waiting for those Z33 IM dynos or Allen's IM if that comes through.
Just give up on Kinetix. If they can't design a manifold for the 350Z that will give equal HP as the Motordyne Spacer, they sure as heck won't design one for the FWD that will give any decent gains.
Old 03-30-2006 | 07:48 AM
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screw that, just get a 00 VI for the vq30 and keep it stock on the vq35 for now. There are many other things that can make u go faster. How about port polishing and port matching from the IM to the Heads. With a good ecu we should have crazy nice power. If still not enough, well then you can always use a SC or a turbo. These are still street cars and the old shcool mechanical ways still work, remember that. Just mix them with technology
Old 03-30-2006 | 08:06 AM
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That intake manifold looks real nice. I'm sure alot of show cars that dont care to much about gains would buy it for that price. Anyway I'm learning alot about the different IM's for the vq's. I think I will be getting a 00VI soon.
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Originally Posted by Jime
Just give up on Kinetix. If they can't design a manifold for the 350Z that will give equal HP as the Motordyne Spacer, they sure as heck won't design one for the FWD that will give any decent gains.
Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath, just thought I'd post a little update over here since I started the thread (And I know you had a thread on this months before too). The fact that they did come through finally with an actual production model was what sparked my interest. But after seeing 3 designs and still no positive gains, I'm starting to doubt that they will ever make anything worthy of the $800 price tag for the FWD. Or even RWD for that matter, as you pointed out.
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allen, lets make some IMs!
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maybe they should put some spinners to match the gangsta chrome on the wheels.

This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.

I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5

Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's

People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
maybe they should put some spinners to match the gangsta chrome on the wheels.

This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.

I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5

Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's

People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
I'm having trouble seeing what this has to do with intake manifolds....
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maybe they should put some spinners to match the gangsta chrome on the wheels.

This is bull****. Altima guys have the same 1/4 mile with nitrous as the maxima guys NA. They think 19-20 inch rims won't kill their low end.

I/H/E/vafc 2 on a vq35 = low to mid 13's. This has been proven dozens of times. There has been an altima that even went 13.6 with only 240whp. Just look in the Racing section, member BJS 3.5

Big body kits, huge rims are only going to slow you down. And people wonder why they can't break into the 13's

People told that even with nitrous and an intake I wouldn't break into the 15's with my 4 cylender altima. I proved them wrong. They are lucky I didn't buy a header and a safc2.
this is what you call a pointless post.

the only way to get a different IM for the vq35 is either
a)350z set up
b)stick with the oem unit
kinetix first of all will cost alot and second of all the gains the IM produces. They wont even show the dyno graphs and I am assuming that the gains are worse then the stock FWD IM.
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I'm having trouble seeing what this has to do with intake manifolds....
They should of spent more time designing the IM than bling it out.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
this is what you call a pointless post.

the only way to get a different IM for the vq35 is either
a)350z set up
b)stick with the oem unit
kinetix first of all will cost alot and second of all the gains the IM produces. They wont even show the dyno graphs and I am assuming that the gains are worse then the stock FWD IM.

It's not pointless, ne pezdi.

Sticking with the oem unti is free and buying a 350z setup and modding it is still cheaper and gives some power.
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It's not pointless, ne pezdi.

Sticking with the oem unti is free and buying a 350z setup and modding it is still cheaper and gives some power.
this post makes no sense to me at all. what are you trying to say?
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
They should of spent more time designing the IM than bling it out.
This simple sentence made much more sense than what you previously posted. Anyways, I think that is implied given that they have had to adjust the design 3 times now because dyno results were made.
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this post makes no sense to me at all. what are you trying to say?
Use a modified 350z IM.
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so it looks as though spacers for our manifolds would be much more beneficial and cost effective as well...!
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I always thought it was the heads on the VQ35 that were restrictive as hell, other than the headers. But what are the chances of getting aftermarket heads made? Prob slim to none.
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Originally Posted by sciff5
I always thought it was the heads on the VQ35 that were restrictive as hell, other than the headers.
WRONG

Originally Posted by sciff5
But what are the chances of getting aftermarket heads made? Prob slim to none.
Slimmer than none.
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use nismo heads for the vq35
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For those who care:

Dynos from FWD Kinetix




Apparently, that was the middle run of the 3 runs.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=218613
Old 04-04-2006 | 07:51 AM
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If I had to make a rough estimate, that is probably around the same gains I have with the 350Z IM, according to the butt dyno.
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not worth the price
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