All Motor All Motor Advanced Performance. Talk about Engine Swaps, Internal Engine work. Not your basic Y pipe and Intake Information.

Oil in spark plug valve 4

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-09-2006 | 02:34 PM
  #1  
BaDMaNDUNK's Avatar
Thread Starter
REXXX
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 97
Oil in spark plug valve 4

I was changing my spark plugs on my 03 max and noticed that in spark plug valve 4 the stem from the valve cover had oil on its tip, although no oil was pooling within the valve itself. I then removed the spark plug and the tip was also very oily. What is the problem here and what can I do to fix it? The car runs fine with only 61,000 miles and no engine check light. Will the spark plug continue to perform efficiently or can it lead to any other problems?
Old 04-09-2006 | 04:28 PM
  #2  
NewLoveI30's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,860
Do you mean cylinder #4? I was not aware that sparkplugs had their own valves. haha

Anyway, you may have a bad valve stem seal. And no, your plugs will not work well covered in oil. Also look at piston rings as a possibility.

Any of you guys think this could be the result of precat material being sucked back into the 3.5's cylinders eg. (oil consumption problems 3.5's seem to have)?
Old 04-09-2006 | 05:03 PM
  #3  
TurboS13Hatch's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 956
From: Houston, TX
Originally Posted by BaDMaNDUNK
I was changing my spark plugs on my 03 max and noticed that in spark plug valve 4 the stem from the valve cover had oil on its tip, although no oil was pooling within the valve itself. I then removed the spark plug and the tip was also very oily. What is the problem here and what can I do to fix it? The car runs fine with only 61,000 miles and no engine check light. Will the spark plug continue to perform efficiently or can it lead to any other problems?
I'm assuming that you mean oil was on the top of the plug.. in that case, the valve cover seal is probably leaking around the metal tube that goes down to the spark plug.

Travis
Old 04-09-2006 | 07:40 PM
  #4  
nismology's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,116
From: Miami, FL
This belongs in the 5th generation forum.
Old 04-10-2006 | 06:28 AM
  #5  
95BLKMAX's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,326
From: Miami, FL
Originally Posted by nismology
This belongs in the 5th generation forum.
agreed
Old 04-12-2006 | 05:51 PM
  #6  
BaDMaNDUNK's Avatar
Thread Starter
REXXX
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 97
about how much will it cost to get this leak fixed? how serious is this issue?
Old 04-12-2006 | 06:10 PM
  #7  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
this is a common problem. replace the whole rear valve cover cause nissan doesnt sell the seal speratly.
Old 04-12-2006 | 07:54 PM
  #8  
jcy98maxse's Avatar
Turbo is too much fun!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,515
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
this is a common problem. replace the whole rear valve cover cause nissan doesnt sell the seal speratly.
they do sell the seal separately. I bought mine last year before I replaced the motor.
Old 04-13-2006 | 05:56 AM
  #9  
nismology's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,116
From: Miami, FL
Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
they do sell the seal separately. I bought mine last year before I replaced the motor.
The original poster has a 3.5.


Edit: Just looked it up in FAST to be absolutely certain and there is no seperate part number for the seals with the 3.5.
Old 04-13-2006 | 07:46 AM
  #10  
BaDMaNDUNK's Avatar
Thread Starter
REXXX
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 97
yes i do have a 3.5.. and oil was pooling around the top of the spark plug. if this is a bad valve stem seal problem it seems pretty simply to replace, but what exactly do u mean by replacing the WHOLE rear valve cover as opposed to just replacing only the cover for that cylinder with the leak? im assuming that if this is a piston ring problem, then it is much more serious. anyone have any estimates on replacing these parts?
Old 04-13-2006 | 07:51 AM
  #11  
nismology's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,116
From: Miami, FL
Originally Posted by BaDMaNDUNK
yes i do have a 3.5.. and oil was pooling around the top of the spark plug. if this is a bad valve stem seal problem it seems pretty simply to replace, but what exactly do u mean by replacing the WHOLE rear valve cover as opposed to just replacing only the cover for that cylinder with the leak? im assuming that if this is a piston ring problem, then it is much more serious. anyone have any estimates on replacing these parts?
1. The seal that's leaking is NOT the valve stem seal.
2. If it was the valve stem seal it certainly would not be simple to replace, since it requires removal of the cams and lifters.
3. It's not a piston ring problem either. No blue smoke, no care.
4. What's leaking is the seal that goes around the spark plug tube and keeps oil out.
5. This seal is an integral part of the valve cover and cannot be replaced separately.
Old 04-13-2006 | 08:46 AM
  #12  
jcy98maxse's Avatar
Turbo is too much fun!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,515
k sorry for the misread.
Old 04-13-2006 | 11:24 AM
  #13  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
yes so you need to get a new rear valve cover to fix the problem.
Old 04-14-2006 | 10:09 AM
  #14  
BaDMaNDUNK's Avatar
Thread Starter
REXXX
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 97
where is the best place for me 2 get this part? is it worth going to nissan or can i buy it elsewhere (websites, etc) for cheaper?
Old 04-14-2006 | 10:47 AM
  #15  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
you could always call daveb or find a used one but then you dont know if the seals are good or not.
Old 05-11-2006 | 11:50 AM
  #16  
BaDMaNDUNK's Avatar
Thread Starter
REXXX
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 97
QUESTION: U guys recommend changing my coil pack for that cylinder as well or it not necessary?
Old 05-22-2006 | 06:24 PM
  #17  
Mizike's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 630
From: Rochester, NY
bump.....I just got done replacing my plugs at almost 65K and there was oil on the tip of one of my plugs. I removed the rubber cover on the coil pack and used a q-tip to clean it as best as possible. I looked down in the plug cyclinder and there wasnt any oil in there besides a few drips from when I actually pulled the plug out. I cleaned up the coil pack as best as possible trying to get all the oil off of it as I could. I did not replace my gasket because I am meeting up with Don from NextGear to run stock #'s for my stock Maxima here shortly and did not want to just throw away $30 bucks for a gasket that would be used for less than 10 days. Anyhow, I went for a test drive after I re-installed everything and all went well. It did seem to have a bit more response than before. Before the plug change, I noticed that when I pressed on the accelerator while I was crusing in 3rd and 4th with my foot OFF the accelerator, there would be a mild hisitation before the car actually accelerated. Which would have been caused from oil all over 1 of the 6 plugs, I think. What should I do. Also, what would you all recommend using to clean the chambers of the manifold? Thanks in advance.
Old 05-31-2006 | 09:34 AM
  #18  
i30ds's Avatar
Armed and Dangerous
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,416
From: Denver, CO
Definately valve cover o rings. I did all of them on my motor along with new valve cover gaskets when I installed my variable intake this last winter. That really sucks that 3.5 requires a whole new cover though...
Old 05-31-2006 | 10:17 PM
  #19  
3.5altman's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 61
same thing happen to my car I plan on replacing valve cover, valve cover gasket and coil packs asap..
Old 06-01-2006 | 09:22 AM
  #20  
Nismo3112's Avatar
Custom User Title
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,688
Get an 04 valve cover if you want to save big bucks. $30 vs. $90.
Old 06-01-2006 | 09:49 AM
  #21  
eng92's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,204
From: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Get an 04 valve cover if you want to save big bucks. $30 vs. $90.
Isn't that great how they charge a lot less for the parts for cars that are still under warranty which you would not have to pay for anyway.

I purchased a complete engine gasket set last fall when I built re-built my VQ35

VQ35 gasket set - A33B $246.96
VQ35 gasket set - A34 $157.00
Old 06-01-2006 | 09:55 AM
  #22  
Nismo3112's Avatar
Custom User Title
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,688
My guess is that the A34 parts are manufactured here in the U.S., and the A33 parts were man. in Japan, even though technically they are the SAME parts. Costs are higher when they are manufactured overseas.
Old 06-02-2006 | 12:45 PM
  #23  
3.5altman's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 61
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Get an 04 valve cover if you want to save big bucks. $30 vs. $90.
i'll take it homie it me up at vq35altima@yahoo.com
Old 06-02-2006 | 01:49 PM
  #24  
Nismo3112's Avatar
Custom User Title
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,688
Originally Posted by 3.5altman
i'll take it homie it me up at vq35altima@yahoo.com

Sorry if I was misleading.. I meant that the dealer sells the 04 valve covers for cheap.. vs. the 02-03 valve covers which are MUCH more expensive.
Old 06-02-2006 | 01:58 PM
  #25  
3.5altman's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 61
ok bro got ya... thanks for the info
Old 06-03-2006 | 02:44 PM
  #26  
3.5altman's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 61
ok back to my question. how do you relocate the knock sensor in a 03 max. any body know. I would search but the damn search button dont work
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mvm062
Infiniti I30/I35
3
11-30-2020 09:00 AM
knight_yyz
General Maxima Accessories (All Generations)
2
11-06-2015 02:34 PM
JoshG
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
51
09-21-2015 10:41 PM
ag90fox
7th Generation Maxima (2009-2015)
6
09-09-2015 12:22 PM
sdotcarter
6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008)
2
09-02-2015 09:53 PM



Quick Reply: Oil in spark plug valve 4



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:34 PM.