New 3.5L IM
09-11-2006, 10:28 AM
#41
Manifold is in PLANING stages, its not made, its got no price tag nor does it have the gains eighter. 350Z manifold hasn't been proven, and the ones I have talked to that have had it.... they said there was no gains.
I'm not building a drag car, but a high RPM road racer.
I'm not building a drag car, but a high RPM road racer.
09-11-2006, 01:12 PM
#43
Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
i guess from what i hear the 350z mani depends on ur setup...for the 4th gen guys running 3.5 without CVT its not too great
09-11-2006, 01:32 PM
#44
Nice looking manifolds. But everyone here is justifiably skeptical. After the Kinetix SSV didn't do much for the na VQ35, I don't think anyone is going to plunk down $400-$800 for another without some type of proof.
The thing is gains for a turbo manifold doesn't equal gains for a NA as most here have said. Also IMHO, manifold design for turbo is quite diff for NA.
That custom unit for the 350z is for a turbo application.
So I think you need to expand on why you are touting forced induction gains when most of these guys want NA power
The thing is gains for a turbo manifold doesn't equal gains for a NA as most here have said. Also IMHO, manifold design for turbo is quite diff for NA.
That custom unit for the 350z is for a turbo application.
So I think you need to expand on why you are touting forced induction gains when most of these guys want NA power
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
http://www.o2induction.com/
This company which resides in the cheese state of Wisconsin makes THE best IM for FWD SR20s, which have proven to make 50WHP over stock on boosted cars. They have made a custom IM for a 350Z but there are no dyno claims on it as of yet.... if you guys get enough e-mails out to Rob.... maybe he will make us a FWD VQ manifold that will provide some substantial gains.
This company which resides in the cheese state of Wisconsin makes THE best IM for FWD SR20s, which have proven to make 50WHP over stock on boosted cars. They have made a custom IM for a 350Z but there are no dyno claims on it as of yet.... if you guys get enough e-mails out to Rob.... maybe he will make us a FWD VQ manifold that will provide some substantial gains.
09-12-2006, 08:47 PM
#45
Well people wanna see gains, they wanna see gains on items that are not even existing as of YET. I am just simply sharing the information on an item they made for the FWD SR crowd and what kinda power it provides. I don't wanna be claiming that the company is the **** yet have NO proof to back up the claims I am making, kapish ?
Here is the update thou.
I have managed to get a hold of 2 engines, VQ35DE and a DE-K for this project. I am putting up the $$$ for this project and I am taking the engines up to O2 induction for them to design the right kinda intake. Its all going to be flow bench tested and optimized, on top of that the lower intake manifold will get a bit of a treatment also according to Jon. Its not just going to be some pretty looking sheet metal intake that is going to just be for show, this should be THE real deal here. I'm not promissing anyone any huge HP gains, but it should show ya that I am serious about making sure this project goes through.
My last project I was involved in was Samco radiator hoses, you can all thank me for that- I fronted up the $$$ for that project also..... and guess what ?? I don't even have a set on my car, and I was supposed to get a set for "free" for going through with this whole project..... ya whatever.
Here is the update thou.
I have managed to get a hold of 2 engines, VQ35DE and a DE-K for this project. I am putting up the $$$ for this project and I am taking the engines up to O2 induction for them to design the right kinda intake. Its all going to be flow bench tested and optimized, on top of that the lower intake manifold will get a bit of a treatment also according to Jon. Its not just going to be some pretty looking sheet metal intake that is going to just be for show, this should be THE real deal here. I'm not promissing anyone any huge HP gains, but it should show ya that I am serious about making sure this project goes through.
My last project I was involved in was Samco radiator hoses, you can all thank me for that- I fronted up the $$$ for that project also..... and guess what ?? I don't even have a set on my car, and I was supposed to get a set for "free" for going through with this whole project..... ya whatever.
09-13-2006, 03:58 AM
#46
I would like to thank you in advance BlackBIRDVQ regardless of the outcome for steeping up and trying to get more support and additional parts for us.
I am awaiting the results of this and hope this works out well and becomes a product that many of us want and buy. Let the Alti guys know and it could be a pretty popular item.
I am awaiting the results of this and hope this works out well and becomes a product that many of us want and buy. Let the Alti guys know and it could be a pretty popular item.
09-13-2006, 11:48 AM
#47
Originally Posted by MDeezy
I would like to thank you in advance BlackBIRDVQ regardless of the outcome for steeping up and trying to get more support and additional parts for us.
Good job! sorry about the Samco Hoses. Also, I'm in if one is made.
09-13-2006, 02:25 PM
#48
just a stupid Q. would there have to different variations for those of us that are required to keep their egr? i know on other cars it makes a difference, wasnt sure bout my max.
seems alot of hostility on the org lately. isnt this the place to share ideas and knowledge about our cars? not everyone agrees with everyone else. but i think were going a lil overboard here. lets lighten up a tad and just get along and work together in our shared hobby of improving our cars. (man i really sounded like a mother there, sorry wont happen again)
seems alot of hostility on the org lately. isnt this the place to share ideas and knowledge about our cars? not everyone agrees with everyone else. but i think were going a lil overboard here. lets lighten up a tad and just get along and work together in our shared hobby of improving our cars. (man i really sounded like a mother there, sorry wont happen again)
09-13-2006, 02:30 PM
#49
I don't think people wanted proof of THIS manifold. But proof from at least another NA manifold and not a FI application. But good luck on this project. I hope it performs
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Well people wanna see gains, they wanna see gains on items that are not even existing as of YET. I am just simply sharing the information on an item they made for the FWD SR crowd and what kinda power it provides. I don't wanna be claiming that the company is the **** yet have NO proof to back up the claims I am making, kapish ?
09-14-2006, 12:13 AM
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Wow gotta love how people try to get something rolling on here with just a simple fkn idea and BAM they get flamed. Oh this is to much, oh this will never make hp, man shut the fck up. Mikes just trying to get something done here and some of you are already *****ing. I dont get it? You spend a thousand bucks on a complete exhaust that gets you maybe 20 whp but you wouldnt spend 400-800 buck on a IM. Ahh since these are hand produced, probably hand welded they aint gonna be cheap. If you want it mass produced go to china and have em weld it with their cheap sht steal and have it fall apart after a month of heat. Like the saying goes " YOU GOTTA PAY TO PLAY" if you dont want something like this then dont fkn flame it. BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH if you want some cheap china mass produced sht go buy a HONDA
09-14-2006, 12:51 AM
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lol^^^. it really is true that people get flamed for ideas like crazy here lately. if this manifold makes good gains then great, when i find money i will buy it. however, i dont think it will. it seems that the manifold, at least the 3.5 one, is going to be nearly as good as it gets. doing the secret sauce mod to it yeilds more power and makes it to redline. BUT, i really hope thats not true, cause it would be really awesome if we got a manifold that made more power, even just 10whp across the board.
09-14-2006, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Well people wanna see gains, they wanna see gains on items that are not even existing as of YET. I am just simply sharing the information on an item they made for the FWD SR crowd and what kinda power it provides. I don't wanna be claiming that the company is the **** yet have NO proof to back up the claims I am making, kapish ?
Here is the update thou.
I have managed to get a hold of 2 engines, VQ35DE and a DE-K for this project. I am putting up the $$$ for this project and I am taking the engines up to O2 induction for them to design the right kinda intake. Its all going to be flow bench tested and optimized, on top of that the lower intake manifold will get a bit of a treatment also according to Jon. Its not just going to be some pretty looking sheet metal intake that is going to just be for show, this should be THE real deal here. I'm not promissing anyone any huge HP gains, but it should show ya that I am serious about making sure this project goes through.
My last project I was involved in was Samco radiator hoses, you can all thank me for that- I fronted up the $$$ for that project also..... and guess what ?? I don't even have a set on my car, and I was supposed to get a set for "free" for going through with this whole project..... ya whatever.
Here is the update thou.
I have managed to get a hold of 2 engines, VQ35DE and a DE-K for this project. I am putting up the $$$ for this project and I am taking the engines up to O2 induction for them to design the right kinda intake. Its all going to be flow bench tested and optimized, on top of that the lower intake manifold will get a bit of a treatment also according to Jon. Its not just going to be some pretty looking sheet metal intake that is going to just be for show, this should be THE real deal here. I'm not promissing anyone any huge HP gains, but it should show ya that I am serious about making sure this project goes through.
My last project I was involved in was Samco radiator hoses, you can all thank me for that- I fronted up the $$$ for that project also..... and guess what ?? I don't even have a set on my car, and I was supposed to get a set for "free" for going through with this whole project..... ya whatever.
09-14-2006, 09:41 AM
#56
this could definately be a good product for the 3.0 guys, a bolt on VI manifold. it would be like the MEVI and oovi combined.
Both the MEVI and 00VI are VI and bolt on, more or less, and they work exactly the same just designed differently.
09-14-2006, 10:13 AM
#57
Why is Z33 a bad IM upgrade again?
I don’t understand why so many of you give the Z33 IM so much bad rap. Even without VVT, the gains are appreciable. I can surely live with the 10hp drop at 4300rpm for the 20hp increase at 6200rpm. You also see some marginal gains at 2500rpm and 3200rpm. Needless to say, this intake cost much less than $800.
Mods: VQ35DE, JWT ECU, STOCK VQ30 HEADERS, MAGNAFLOW MUFF
Green line: Stock FWD VQ35DE IM
Red/Blue: Z33 and playing with A/F for max power and torque
Mods: VQ35DE, JWT ECU, STOCK VQ30 HEADERS, MAGNAFLOW MUFF
Green line: Stock FWD VQ35DE IM
Red/Blue: Z33 and playing with A/F for max power and torque
09-14-2006, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by meximax
I don’t understand why so many of you give the Z33 IM so much bad rap. Even without CVT, the gains are appreciable. I can surely live with the 10hp drop at 4300rpm for the 20hp increase at 6200rpm. You also see some marginal gains at 2500rpm and 3200rpm. Needless to say, this intake cost much less than $800.
Mods: VQ35DE, JWT ECU, STOCK VQ30 HEADERS, MAGNAFLOW MUFF
Green line: Stock FWD VQ35DE IM
Red/Blue: Z33 and playing with A/F for max power and torque
Mods: VQ35DE, JWT ECU, STOCK VQ30 HEADERS, MAGNAFLOW MUFF
Green line: Stock FWD VQ35DE IM
Red/Blue: Z33 and playing with A/F for max power and torque
Why you running stock vq30 headers? arent those worst then the vq35 headers?
I hope you don't mean stock for stock..
09-14-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Technically, you don't spell it 'there' it's they're.
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
actually it is they are
The .org's giant nitpicker just got 
09-14-2006, 02:22 PM
#72
Hey monkey 
's back on topic..
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I gained 22 more whp @ 6550 w/ a modified FWD VQIM. (Stock vs modified)
I agree.. So if people want a gain thruout the range, this is a must. So essentially a :spirnt to that.
's back on topic..
Originally Posted by meximax
don’t understand why so many of you give the Z33 IM so much bad rap
I gained 22 more whp @ 6550 w/ a modified FWD VQIM. (Stock vs modified)
Originally Posted by SPiG
Aftermarket IMs are very rarely variable. It adds significant cost and complexity that even the biggest companies can't or won't afford. OEMs can build variable manifolds because they have more resources and need to consider a broader powerband and emissions.
I agree.. So if people want a gain thruout the range, this is a must. So essentially a :spirnt to that.
09-14-2006, 02:56 PM
#73
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I gained 22 more whp @ 6550 w/ a modified FWD VQIM. (Stock vs modified)
09-14-2006, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by meximax
Did you incur any power loss early in the powerband? Can you post some before/after dyno charts?
09-14-2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxBlack97
Nymex which manifold r u using? what's the cost? r u a33 or a33?
09-14-2006, 06:10 PM
#78
Originally Posted by meximax
Did you incur any power loss early in the powerband? Can you post some before/after dyno charts?
09-14-2006, 06:25 PM
#79
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
There was a slight loss. I have the files at work, will post in the morning. My point is that I spent much less doing this than 0.8k$ and it's much easier than getting a z33 IM to fit.
