well i got the summit rpm switch and hookd everything up properly the led i hooked up kicks on when the desired rpm is reached how ever, the vias does not seem to open and apparently it doesnt need any vacuum because it gets it from the intake manifold. Im like 100% i hooked everything up properly the only thing i can think is that it needs vacuum from some where because i cant see the rod undeneath the vias moves so any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.!

 

A couple of things you can do. Make sure that both the power and ground wires are hooked up accordingly on the solenoid (if you are not using the oem connector to the solenoid). Also you can test to see if the soleniod is good by hooking it up to the battery, touch the positive terminal of the battery and you should here the solenoid click. There is no external vacuum required, since to gets its vacuum internally. Finally, make sure that the activation wire (yellow or gray?) on rpm switch is hooked up correctly, depending on how yours is setup. One is normally closed and opens when the rpm is reach, the other is normally open and closes when the rpm is reached.
Mine, I have constant power to the solenoid and when it hits the rpm point, the switch provides ground and completes the circuit. Good Luck!

 

yea i wired the rpm switch(RED)to ignition, and the solenoid pin(LEFT) to a constant fused wire, White to Tach, Yellow to the right pin on the solenoid, black to ground. Ill check to hear if it clicks! No, it does not click neither of the two solenoids click i think your thinking of a relay that clicks when it receives power. I still dont know why this is not working its making me mad. The rod does not activate, but if i push that rod in it moves and i can hear it opening. Any other ideas

 

What is your ground source? Sure you have it connected to the VIAS selenoid and not the swirl control?

 

try this ground the yellow and green wire and run a positive wire to the other wire it shuold click

 

i used the cig lighter as a ground for the rpm switch but i hooked the yellow wire from the rpm switch to the RIGHT pin of the black plug. And i ran the left PIN to a fused constant +12v. I hooked White up to the tach. I will try tommorow to see if the solenoid clicks. Also is there supposed to be a rubber gasket on the solenoid because the Brown plug had it when i removed it, but the vias plug did not. So im wondering if maybe its causing a vacuum leak ?

 

Its a rubber o-ring and yes you should have it, since you're not using the swirl valve, just take it from that solenoid.

 

yea i lost the o ring it fell some where into the engine bay when i pulled it out ill go see if autozone has something.

 

The o ring (for the plug)is not needed because my friend does not have one on his. Have you tried manually opening the vias yourself? Ground the right pin of the vias and the take your power and tap it on the power terminal of you battery to see if it works.

 

i went and bought the O-ring anyway it was 52 cents. However i can manually open the vias without any problem. So i ground the right pin of the vias, and use the left pin for power ?

 

ok so far when i have the plug hooked up directly to a ground and a constant 12v and i can get the solenoid to click however the valve still does not open. Any ideas??

 

If the solenoid is clicking and the VIAS is not activating, it almost sounds like maybe your VIAS is broken. Take the VIAS off and see if the cup is still attached to it or not.

 

i took the vias off and the cup was still attached to the valve. I dont know what could possibly be wrong. Like i said i can activate the switch manually but it wont do it electronicly and i have no idea why.

 

Ok, well, if that's not broken we know the valve itself is probably doing its job. So the problem must be the RPM switch. What is it set to?

 

2000 ish just for testing purposes... But wouldnt applying the +12v and ground open up the vi regardless of the rpm? As of now i took the whole intake manifold off. So if theres anything i can do while its off let me know.

 

Well, while it's off you definitely want to JB weld that cup inside the VIAS (for security measures, you know, just in case).

But now I'm confused. You said you applied a 12v and ground to the solenoid and it clicked, "but the valve does not open." How do you know the valve isn't open? Is the solenoid arm moving? (is that what you're referring to as the "click"?)

 

the solenoid arm located below the black plug does not move while applying 12v and ground when the car is started. The only time i have seen that arm move is when i push it manually. I can hear the solenoid it self click(the black plug). But still the arm will not move.

 

If the solenoid is actuating with the application of 12v, then the problem is elsewhere other than the solenoid. Although some posts have indicated otherwise, make sure the "o" rings(s) on the solenoid are good and in place. They're there for a reason! When I was sourcing and re-selling several of these last year, one of the first things I'd do upon receiving one would be to place a vacuum hose on the VIAS nipple and suck on it. If the rod moved, then I at least knew that that part of the VIAS was OK and I moved on to taking everything apart, de-carbonizing the manifold and doing the JB Weld precautionary fix.

 

well i know the vias functions perfectly manually i was able to push the vias lever, and feel the butterflys open and close in the vi. So i know that is OK. Im still confused on why it wont open. It operates smoothly manually. So im guessing its some sort of vacuum problem but i dont really know

 

ok so apparently im missing the vacuum reservoir ?

 

Nope. It's internal on the 00VI.

 

so whats going on then why isnt this stupid thing working.

 

Perhaps something else is wrong with the VIAS or solenoid This is beyond my knowledge at this point, so I'll let others who know more advise you...

 

anyone else have any ideas ?

 

nice broken everything

 

must be loosing vaccum some where, check for cracks on the manifold or the gasket on the vias.

 

ive checked for vacuum leaks over and over and over again, along with cracks that would cause vacuum leaks. The car idles and drives perfectly i just dont understand why the vias wont open by it self. I appreciate all the efforts everyone thought of keep em coming id like to get this fixed.

 

check the lines to make sure there were there supposed to be

 

Like I suggested earlier, with the engine off put a vacuum (size) hose on the left brass VIAS nipple and suck on it. If the actuator arm moves, then only 2 things come to mind:
1. "O" ring(s) on the solenoid; or
2. I believe (IIRC) there's an "O"-ring between the VIAS assembly and the
00VI housing.
At this point worth checking.
And at this point, what you're doing doesn't include having a vacuum source hooked onto that left brass hose nipple on the VIAS.
Something else just occurred to me: as you're standing in front of the car looking at the engine, just to the right of the brass plate of the VIAS is a plastic nipple (pointed towards the car front) that's supposed to be sealed off. You might want to check that.

 

ok thanks for the response i just checked what you suggested i do have the nipple to the right of the vias capped off, and i tried sucking on the hose i hooked up to the left solenoid nipple, and the arm does not move still. Where do i go from here ?

 

At this point I'd be removing the VIAS and start doing some disassembly, looking for those "O" rings I mentioned. They're metric in size, so don't expect Home Depot to have them. IIRC, the 2 solenoids are identical except possibly for the pin configuration on the plugs. So the right one (normally for the swirl valves) might be a good spare candidate to switch around. Also (IIRC), there are 2 "O" rings on each solenoid. When I first tried to remove a solenoid the smaller of the 2 stayed behind (in the VIAS).
And my last recourse would be to buy one of the 00VI's currently for sale (and I might jump on it right now "just in case"). I believe that krismax has an upper w/ VIAS that he'd sell for $120. This would give you a working VIAS that you could swap onto yours to find out if the problem is in your VIAS, and maybe help you identify and correct the problem. When you're done, you'd have a spare 00VI you could resell and recoup most of your investment.

 

just want to bump this back up to the top to see if anyone has any other input. After sucking on the nipple solenoid it still wouldnt open. Does that leave me with a bad solenoid ?

 

mine did this bad solenoid, got another vias and it worked fine .

 

as of now this is what works I can push the actuator lever and i was able to feel the butterflys open and close. I know that the rod is still connected to the cup because i was able to move it by hand. Now the tricky part, it will not open electronically. Even when i directly supply power and ground to the solenoid in the front. So im not exactly sure what it could be im not very good at troubl shooting mechanic problems if anyone could suggest some more solutions i would appreciate it. If it is so a bad solenoid. Are you talking about the one in the front where i supply power and ground to or something in the vias it self ?